Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, Trichromatic said: So even Pandya doesn't know what thought team management had. Better that we get rid of the delusional duo of captain and coach,I remember Athers kept saying that Virat controls the show and cheerleader has his inputs but that is very minimum. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Stan AF said: In fact many here wanted two spinners when the summer was harsh and sun was beating down on lords. No one expected it to rain on the 1st day, lose a days play and then started seaming right away. If england had batted on day 2 they would have also had a difficult time. Talk about throwing a wrench in one's plans. But when they picked Kuldeep, they knew the weather. Gollum 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, WeStMiDz said: This team lacks local knowledge. Two spinners were perfectly fine at Edgbaston - nobody would have blinked an eye lid. You can't go overseas and just automatically think two spinners are not permitted. But here with the cloud cover and forecast, two spinner theory was farcical before a ball was even bowled. If 2 spinners have to be played in occasional tests in SENA, because the pitch may aid spin later on ... it is preferable to choose one of them in the all-rounder's slot and still play 3 specialist pacers. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, rkt.india said: But when they picked Kuldeep, they knew the weather. And icf is not paid 7 crores to fly there and assess the conditions. Nikhil_cric, Clarke and Switchblade 2 1 Link to comment
R.D forever Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 We have played with both harbhajan and Kumble before overseas. Yes they could have changed before toss seeing the conditions but I guess main problem was batsmen getting out for 107 giving no cushion for spinners to attack And yeah also the 2nd spinner was bowling filth Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: So even Pandya doesn't know what thought team management had. I don't think any player would know. You remember when Rahul was dropped in ODI series, some commie asked him why he was dropped, he said I don't knw. Link to comment
Clarke Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Kuldeep seemed to be the only one wearing a sweater yesterday iirc. Maybe he wasn't 100% or the weather didn't suit him. Then there's the Duke ball, the pitch & the grand stage. He's shown the potential & got a future if managed properly. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Even while commenting during the game he could not say correctly whether ball bounced more or came slow etc. Gavaskar is better in mentioning those details. What shastri does better is getting into verbal duel with others, be it Nasser during 2011 or that ball tampering saga in SA where he questioned referee. He is best suited for spokesperson role, not any other role which involved getting into details of game. Gollum 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Switchblade said: When they finalized the team, it was expected to rain a lot and 5 days were not on the cards. Don't know what Pandya is saying. Gollum 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, rkt.india said: I don't think any player would know. You remember when Rahul was dropped in ODI series, some commie asked him why he was dropped, he said I don't knw. Are you talking about the 3rd ODI in England? Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, express bowling said: When they finalized the team, it was expected to rain a lot and 5 days were not on the cards. Don't know what Pandya is saying. I personally want to see Kohli or Shastri coming out after the test match is over to answer their ridiculous selections and tactics. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, express bowling said: If 2 spinners have to be played in occasional tests in SENA, because the pitch may aid spin later on ... it is preferable to choose one of them in the all-rounder's slot and still play 3 specialist pacers. To be honest, one out of 100 tests in sena, you will get a pitch to play two spinners. If team wants an extra bowler, always go for an extra pacer in these conditions, rather than an extra spinner. Switchblade 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Switchblade said: Are you talking about the 3rd ODI in England? Yes Link to comment
R.D forever Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I have told many times that even in ODIs kuldeep bowls these full toss balls every over. U can get away with it in ODI but test match is all about pressure. Jadeja should be our second spinner in overseas. And Ashwin should br the first one on the team list even before Kohli. Kuldeep can be a third spinner in subcontinent conditions for x factor. Like how Kumble and rahane used him Insidious and Laaloo 1 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, express bowling said: When they finalized the team, it was expected to rain a lot and 5 days were not on the cards. Don't know what Pandya is saying. He is saying what koach told him to. Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: Yes DK in place of Rahul was a tactical move by Kohli and the other two Thakur and Bhuvi were given chance/exposure.I remember Athers was bit surprised in the comm box saying that England are more or less settled but India are still trying to figure it out who their best players would be before the next WC.He said VK told him at the toss that DK is a tactical move while rest two were given opportunity to get the feel of the tour and conditions. Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: To be honest, one out of 100 tests in sena, you will get a pitch to play two spinners. If team wants an extra bowler, always go for an extra pacer in these conditions, rather than an extra spinner. We are discussing a situation when the management want to play 2 spinners ... and the team composition thereafter. Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: He is saying what koach told him to. Yes ... but Koach should arm him with better facts and reasoning. Switchblade 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, express bowling said: We are discussing a situation when the management want to play 2 spinners ... and the team composition thereafter. They should've played 2 spinners, instead of fake A/R at Edgbaston. Bow they're doing the opposite, always reactionary and chasing the game. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: We are discussing a situation when the management want to play 2 spinners ... and the team composition thereafter. But we don't have a spinning alrounder. Link to comment
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