Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Lannister said: The fact of the matter is they gave full power to Kohli and it is BCCIs fault. It was but they are always busy with their own conflicts and have 0 time for the team to do well overseas.Also the COA made a blunder selecting Shastri last year. Link to comment
kohli Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Shaw Mayank Hanuma Kohli Pujara/ rahane Pant Hardik We need to try this batting.rahane outside Asia and pujara in asia Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Switchblade said: Keep troll voting bro you can't escape the reality if you are blaming 1-15 under Dhoni ,you have to accept 1-7 under Kohli too.I hope you can remove your bias and insecurity and watch it without a fans perspective. I told you already. That clown is the biggest sachin chamcha ever. He got trolled so hard back in those days that it left a hole in his heart. It ll never heal. Switchblade 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 36 minutes ago, nitinbwj said: Had Bumrah and Bhuvi played, the results could have been better. Cannot say for sure. Bumrah is untested. Bhuvi is certainly missed though. He would have feasted here just like clouderson. beetle 1 Link to comment
Adi BB Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, jf1gp_1 said: Wait.. you praising Dhoni ? He's a fan of dhoni just like you Laaloo and speedheat 2 Link to comment
Pollack Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Laaloo said: OP is having some very good ganja He is high from last two days if his posts are any indications. Link to comment
putrevus Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Yes , but that clown is far better than this overrated clown called Rahul.When your opening pair doesn’t last past single digits series after series no coach can rescue.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
Adi BB Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Ab ye din dekhne padh rahe hai ki an absolute dumb ,uninterested test captain in dhoni is being revered because of how low standards have become under kohli ! It is true somewhat beetle, Mosher, express bowling and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment
Lannister Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Switchblade said: It was but they are always busy with their own conflicts and have 0 time for the team to do well overseas.Also the COA made a blunder selecting Shastri last year. It was the committee comprising of Ganguly, Sachin and Laxman who selected this chewt as a coach. BCCI is in this mess because of their wrongdoings during Srinivasan's tenure. Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Pls dont compare Captain Cool with Captain Brand. In LOIs there was no competition anyway...only bragging point was test captaincy. And that is all falling apart now which was expected in overseas toursSent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk speedheat, Shunya, Laaloo and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: I told you already. That clown is the biggest sachin chamcha ever. He got trolled so hard back in those days that it left a hole in his heart. It ll never heal. Bhai if some one is critical of a player doesn't mean they don't like him .Sachin will always be a legend but he is a human or Virat as well on one hand it's fine to put down Dhoni and bash him for away series defeats,abhi kya ho raha hai under whom we are losing who ever is in the hot seat gets the criticism Kohli knew about it and is facing the criticism.Just cause I said something about Virat or mentioned him as a better batsman than Sachin in ODI'S doesn't mean that I am bhakt of Kohli or a hater of Sachin. They are Indians at the end isn't it or do you pray for an individual to do well and hope the team fails for bragging rights?Pointing out Dhoni's shortcomings are fine with him but saying something about the other is not that's double standards troll votes just shows his insecurity and bitterness to accept reality. Edited August 12, 2018 by Switchblade Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lannister said: It was the committee comprising of Ganguly, Sachin and Laxman who selected this chewt as a coach. BCCI is in this mess because of their wrongdoings during Srinivasan's tenure. Ganguly was against Shastri that is why he wanted Zak and Rahul Dravid as consultants for overseas tour. Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Pls dont compare Captain Cool with Captain Brand. In LOIs there was no competition anyway...only bragging point was test captaincy. And that is all falling apart now which was expected in overseas tours Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Test me Dhoni bhi overseas bakwas tha bahut mar khai thi at least Kohli k under fight de k harte hai just that uske selections questionable rehte hai. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Forever Indian said: Dhoni had a good record even overseas in first half of his captaincy career. A captain's shelf life IMO is 5 years bcos then the ideas become stale, you no longer are excited and you start going through the motions. So he became a bad captain in his second half. But he did draw his first series in SA and won in NZ. Kohli is through 4 years of his captaincy and things are going to only get worse from here once his already stale ideas become rotten. Dhoni had ATGs in first half. Link to comment
Lannister Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Switchblade said: Ganguly was against Shastri that is why he wanted Zak and Rahul Dravid as consultants for overseas tour. Yes, he had no choice but to give into this idea. Full blame on Sachin and Laxman. For Sachin, it's obvious Shastri is from Mumbai and Laxman got excited to finally get some attention in his dull career. Switchblade 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, Lannister said: Yes, he had no choice but to give into this idea. Full blame on Sachin and Laxman. For Sachin, it's obvious Shastri is from Mumbai and Laxman got excited to finally get some attention in his dull career. Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Dhoni had ATGs in first half. In Test matches? Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Dhoni had ATGs in first half. ATGs that got him whitewash in England ? They are done by that time. He has tough job of removing them one by one. Edited August 12, 2018 by Rasgulla Link to comment
raki05 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, R!TTER said: Dhoni didn't build any team, he inherited one from Kumble! Dhoni is the biggest coward I've seen in the last 30 years, who'd hide behind his process' diarrhea and back stab the seniors, who made him, any chance he got. A better wording is kohli is continuing the same legacy what dhoni has built tiger at home pussy at overseas even wirst way coz player and team selection are worst than ever. At least till the time Ganguly/ David and kumble was captain we were feared team overseas. Edited August 12, 2018 by raki05 speedheat and Switchblade 1 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 When was the last time you saw a set of batsmen in their late 20s and looking forward to become mainstay of team for next 6-7 years suddenly become useless when they start hitting 30s. 30s is basically prime of any batsman. No matter whether they are great, good or average batsmen, almost all of them have their best years during this time. They debuted with lot of promise, did well in different patches and suddenly at their peak they all have become like 38 years over the hill batsmen. Question is what has changed - answer is clear - captain and management. How did it change, we can only speculate and guess. But unless board investigates, it's difficult to know. This is the time a proactive board looks into matter and tries to resolve the issues. But a powerful captain and useless coach means it will never be clear. Same Pujara fluked innings in SA, even Dhawan scored a century, Rahane did well in all countries. Vijay is only one for whom we can say that age is catching up, but even his downfall is alarming. There is only one batsman in the team and that is Kohli, no matter how worse was the era, all captain had a settled core of players. Kohli doesn't has that even after 4 years of captaincy. Can we say that he doesn't have a settled core because he got team during transition? Hell no. Transition happened during Dhoni and all players had already home/away series experience when he took over. From there on, team has been in shambles. Kohli has no excuse of handling over the hill players or bunch of rookies. He was handling players who have already 25-50 tests under their belt. No captain can expect better situation to get a team. Not just the batsmen, event the bowlers had found their feet. Bhuvi, Ishant (showed signs of consistency), Ashwin (improved after 2012 disaster), Jadeja (he was completely Dhoni era product) and no ageing Zak either. 3 batsmen with great potential, 1 aging but good opener, 1 good keeper, and 4 bowlers rising to their peaks along with benefits of all other aging weeds removed - total 9 players and 0 negatives. That's what Kohli got and he completely made a mess of it. How he did it? No one knows. It requires special talent to do so. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Now come to bowling. Luckily he hasn't tinkered bowling much as he doesn't has much clue about the bowling, although there have signs. Dropping Bhuvi, or not bowling Jadeja against England 2016 were just early signs. Lord's 2018 has set the tone of what's stored in future. It seems slowly bowling might meet same fate which batting has suffered if captain and coach continue their game. It's alarming and sooner this team manages to fix issues, lesser will be the extent of damage. Once touted as fast bowling captain, it seems Kohli has no idea about any type of bowling than previous captain who at least had control with spinners. Kohli and his managements' lack of know how about bowling is evident by them playing 2 spinners in this team even after seeing rain for hours. This bowling attack is easily one of the best and it's upto Kohli to ensure that it doesn't push them off the cliff. Forever Indian, Shunya, Switchblade and 4 others 5 1 1 Link to comment
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