Team need batsmen that play more aggressively

[rtmohanlal]

The title says all. These are the periods of T20 cricket too. Naturally we can't expect batsmen to have watertight technique like those of a Boycott or Gavaskar or Dravid so that they can   grind down quality bowling ball after ball and then capitalize once the bowlers get tired or the conditions become easy or both.Naturally we need attacking batsmen in the top six who can play as aggressively as possible right from the word go. Plus left -right at the crease unsettle the bowlers even more, So 3-3 left-right combo is the need. Also to increase the confidence of batsmen , they should play at the least the 2 main formats as possible it could be.

 In the bygone era we had  6  players SRT,Sourav,Dravid,Sehwag,Dhoni & Gambhir(to a slightly lesser extend)  who played   both formats .Even Gambhir was far better batsman than every hack in this line up baring Kohli.And specialists like Yuvraj,Raina,Laxman etc etc effectively assisted such a core group.

 

Why could the above group become so successful?????.Because they had far greater variety(Sourav & Gambhir left handed,Sehwag utter destructive) .Now compare this current wastes with them. Baring Kohli(by far the best of the top six) no body is even fit to literally  tie the shoelaces of those top 6.Why. Because baring Kohli all are non-mutli dimensional in every sense. All of them are either right handed or playing only one format or both.This needs to change because this is T20 era. We need to trace out quality aggressive batsmen with variety (left -right combo, 3 each) who play both formats and play positively blazing out  right from the word go and forces bowlers on the back foot. And they need to be traced out at fairly young age(even before turning 21) so that they can settle down AEAP). Even 11 Mohammed Shamis can get far more than 107 total by playing just aggressive cricket. For that we do not need hacks like Pujara,Vijay etc etc who consumes 25-30 balls to get 1 run and get out there by destroying the whole rhythm of the innings.Batting is all about building momentum more often than not. To be more precise, batsmen to follow builds  on the  momentum created by the out going batsmen.When hacks like Pujara,Vijay  etc are playing  more and more, this destroys the initial mometum there itself so that even that affects quality batsmen like Kohli.So tracing out quality youngsters with all triats I specified is the need of the hour.Thoughts...

Edited August 12, 2018 by rtmohanlal

[zen]

A key element of test cric is respecting conditions. Where key bowlers are not bound by overs quota and where field placing is different with more men in catching positions. The thread ignores these factors and probably assumes test cricket to be an extended version of LOIs

Edited August 12, 2018 by zen

[lamellavig]

4 minutes ago, zen said:

A key element of test cric is respecting conditions. Where key bowlers are not bound by overs quota and where field placing is different with more men in catching positions. The thread ignores these factors and probably assumes test cricket to be an extended version of LOIs

It is indeed an extended version of LOIs, if you are a good team. If you are a weak team (i.e. having a deficit in absolute skills in either batting, bowling or fielding), it is a completely different format.

 

If you are a good team, you make test cricket an extended version of LOIs. 

[kohli]

Simple point our batsman are waste,laxman played only 1 formet but he is leval above of this batsman

[rtmohanlal]

6 minutes ago, zen said:

A key element of test cric is respecting conditions. Where key bowlers are not bound by overs quota and where field placing is different with more men in catching positions. The thread ignores these factors and probably assumes test cricket to be an extended version of LOIs

But in today's  T20 oriented cricket , despite respecting conditions batsmen have to play aggressively. Otherwise the team should possess such  high quality test specialist batsmen like Boycott ,Gavaskar etc etc .When the likes of Vijay & Pujara are starting the momentum of the inns , despite immensely respecting the conditions, no positive effect can be guaranteed. That being the case to get 107  , the batsmen of the nature I specified are far more effective than the likes of Pujara,Vijay etc etc  

[zen]

2 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

But in today's  T20 oriented cricket , despite respecting conditions batsmen have to play aggressively. Otherwise the team should possess such  high quality test specialist batsmen like Boycott ,Gavaskar etc etc .When the likes of Vijay & Pujara are starting the momentum of the inns , despite immensely respecting the conditions, no positive effect can be guaranteed. That being the case to get 107  , the batsmen of the nature I specified are far more effective than the likes of Pujara,Vijay etc etc  

Can you describe momentum? Test teams will be happy to pick up 2-3 top / middle order wkts by even giving away 100 runs in a session considering general conditions 

[rtmohanlal]

just look at how Pandya and Ashwin are playing as of now..... yes , the partnership  may get stronger or be cut short  soon.But they have put 35 runs in mere 7 overs. That is the result of playing positive aggressive cricket.Team need to do this right from the start.

[prasen82]

i disagree here. the top order batsman in these conditions are sacrificial lambs. they need to puta . price on their wicket and help soften the ball so that the middle order can play well.

 

our problem is we lose 3 wickets within the first 15 overs and expose the middle order to seaming conditions.

the lower order has been bailing us out bg time in recent past. but now the gaps are visible.

 

we need top 3 batsman who can consume 200-250 balls / game amongst themselves in SENA conditions.

 

and the middle order could have a chance. it is better to be at 60/3 after 40 overs as opposed to 100/3 in 20 overs

[rtmohanlal]

16 minutes ago, zen said:

Can you describe momentum? Test teams will be happy to pick up 2-3 top / middle order wkts by even giving away 100 runs in a session considering general conditions 

'momentum' is  building on what is left by the people behind you.  For instance if 2 openers plays positively with aggression that can increase the confidence of the batsmen to follow, not only in the particular test, but in the other tests as well. With Pujara,Vijay,Dhawan one dimensionals , such momentum is just non existant with the team. 

[zen]

3 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

'momentum' is  building on what is left by the people behind you.  For instance if 2 openers plays positively with aggression that can increase the confidence of the batsmen to follow, not only in the particular test, but in the other tests as well. With Pujara,Vijay,Dhawan one dimensionals , such momentum is just non existant with the team. 

Because the openers are not good enough to survive these conditions. If they hit, they increase the risk of getting out even sooner. Many of the dismissals have been through bad shots (showing unnecessary aggression) .... As Gavaskar is said to have said - give the first hours to the bowlers

Edited August 12, 2018 by zen

[rtmohanlal]

19 minutes ago, zen said:

Because the openers are not good enough to survive these conditions. If they hit, they increase the risk of getting out even sooner. Many of the dismissals have been through bad shots (showing unnecessary aggression) .... As Gavaskar is said to have said - give the first hours to the bowlers

means they are neither good at defense  nor playing good shots.

[zen]

2 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

means they are neither good at defense  nor playing good shots.

So the least they can do is respect the conditions and play accordingly 

[jusarrived]

No batsmen is good enough to play "aggressive cricket" on such pitches. Yeah you can score a quick 50 on a good day, but won't win you test matches.