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If u see their shows ,their reporters....everyones focus is just pandya.

I remeber when ganguly was with Aaj tak he scolded Vikrant gupta by telling him- ur to harsh on pandya , i knw why ....ill talk to u when i meet u 

 

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What about removing batsman tag from our specialist 

 

I thought i was the one who thought like that  , till boria tweeted this n everyone noticed it and bashed him

 

 

 

Even here after a point this guy ask-

What has ur 5th bowler done in last game.....was he sleeping???? and in the end all of them want him dropped .....

 

Even if u take Videos from SA tour- it was all anti him.....they were jst waiting for him to fail post 93 and they jst wen bonkers

 

 

Now i dnt care what these bunch of jokers say, but what concerns me they have huge following n ppl who make opinon watching them and this is not good for any young cricketer . They have shamelessly promoted Kaul selection of siraj for long coz he is from north region as they all are . 

 

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Yes, there is something seriously wrong.  Yeah, how they forgot his 3/66 easily.  He made more runs than other specialist batsmen. Important thing is Gupta wants 6th batsman in place of Pandya like 6th batsman has some magic wand, which other 5 don't have. 

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Pandya does not deserve the all-rounder tag in Test cricket. Being mediocre in both departments of the game doesn't deserve that tag. Presently his fan following are simply dwelling in the failures of the rest rather than reasoning with what he really delivers on the field.

 

He presently hurts the balance off the side. I would still stick with 2 spinners and 3 'genuine' pacers. 

 

Albeit, none of this matters, Kohli likes Pandya and his swag. He'll play all 5 tests!

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Not every all-rounder has a specialist primary and a decent secondary skill like sobers, kallis, Ashwin, Dev etc..

 

There are all-rounders like Flintoff, stokes, shakib, moeen who are decent at both and not world class in any of the skills.

 

Problem with pandya is that he is in the bottom tier of the second group. He is a Flintoff /stokes type decent at both player - but at the same time lots of work to be done in both his skills. 

 

Maybe people have agenda on him but his lack of urgency to cement his place in the team with crucial performances, is only giving his naysayers more power.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, shortbread said:

Pandya does not deserve the all-rounder tag in Test cricket. Being mediocre in both departments of the game doesn't deserve that tag. Presently his fan following are simply dwelling in the failures of the rest rather than reasoning with what he really delivers on the field.

 

He presently hurts the balance off the side. I would still stick with 2 spinners and 3 'genuine' pacers. 

 

Albeit, none of this matters, Kohli likes Pandya and his swag. He'll play all 5 tests!

 

1 minute ago, Temujin Khaghan said:

Not every all-rounder has a specialist primary and a decent secondary skill like sobers, kallis, Ashwin, Dev etc..

 

There are all-rounders like Flintoff, stokes, shakib, moeen who are decent at both and not world class in any of the skills.

 

Problem with pandya is that he is in the bottom tier of the second group. He is a Flintoff /stokes type decent at both player - but at the same time lots of work to be done in both his skills. 

 

Maybe people have agenda on him but his lack of urgency to cement his place in the team with crucial performances, is only giving his naysayers more power.

 

 

we have others threads to discuss that

Here the discussion is whole tv network going after him 

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5 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Yes, there is something seriously wrong.  Yeah, how they forgot his 3/66 easily.  He made more runs than other specialist batsmen. Important thing is Gupta wants 6th batsman in place of Pandya like 6th batsman has some magic wand, which other 5 don't have. 

and this has been going on since SA series , the minute he fails one game after even having a good one the knifes are out...as if he isnt allowed to have a bad game. 

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3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

we have others threads to discuss that

Here the discussion is whole tv network going after him 

What if they are of the same opinion? They gain nothing by going after him.

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33 minutes ago, shortbread said:

Pandya does not deserve the all-rounder tag in Test cricket. Being mediocre in both departments of the game doesn't deserve that tag. Presently his fan following are simply dwelling in the failures of the rest rather than reasoning with what he really delivers on the field.

 

He presently hurts the balance off the side. I would still stick with 2 spinners and 3 'genuine' pacers. 

 

Albeit, none of this matters, Kohli likes Pandya and his swag. He'll play all 5 tests!

you know this is all relative.  why are others failing because of conditions and in same conditions, he outbatted them and even outbowled main bowlers. You cant ask more than that he is out numbering both specialist bats and bowlers.  If others succeed, he will succeed better.  Example Afghan test where he played an important innings after the middle order collapsed. what did Stokes and Woakes did in India? Should we remove the alrounder tag from them after their failures in India?

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When he knuckles down with the bat, he actually looks like someone who can score runs in England. 

 

Even Mikey Holding has a vendetta against Pandya. He has taken offense that some media outlet has described him as the next Kapil Dev. That is not Hardik Pandya's fault. 

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I don't get this obsession against pandya,  he did his job, and why these idiots compare pandy to Stokes is beyond me,  def. he is not as talanted as stokes but he is doing his job, eng has history of producing allrounders like Flintoff and we on the other other hand at the most has produced banger cement, pandy also not the biggest problem of this team, just leave him alone ffs.

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8 minutes ago, shortbread said:

What if they are of the same opinion? They gain nothing by going after him.

once media ppl holds a grudge against someone......they will go after them . At the end they are humans who have the power of influencing ppl and thats what concerns me 

Go on their twitter handle watch their shows....how many other ppl are bashed like him and the others are performing worse then him 

 

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3 minutes ago, WeStMiDz said:

When he knuckles down with the bat, he actually looks like someone who can score runs in England. 

 

Even Mikey Holding has a vendetta against Pandya. He has taken offense that some media outlet has described him as the next Kapil Dev. That is not Hardik Pandya's fault. 

who is pointing out holding, i respect his opinion

Even bob willis had same opinion ....they cme from a diff genration n i understand their opinion

 

When sanga, ganguly, tendulkar, ponting back him......i dnt even call them their PR

 

PPL can have different opinion 

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19 minutes ago, speedheat said:

I don't get this obsession against pandya, in my opinion he did his job, and why these idiots compare pandy to Stokes is beyond me,  def. he is not as talanted as stokes but he is doing his job, eng has history of producing allrounders like Flintoff and we on the other other hand at the most has produced banger cement, pandy also not the biggest problem of this team, just leave him alone ffs.

Both Woakes and Stokes made their test debut in 2014.  Stokes is 27 and Woakes is 29.  Pandya is 24.  Pandya is just starting out.  5 of his 9 tests have been played outside SC in difficult conditions for batting and now his bowling did come of age in the last test.  if he can keep the same level of bowling in next three tests, his bowling will definitely become an asset for us.

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17 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

sports editor for aaj tak

but even boria majumdar n others looks to be in same ship

 

They all do or say what he says.  He has some personal tiff with Pandya.

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24 minutes ago, WeStMiDz said:

When he knuckles down with the bat, he actually looks like someone who can score runs in England. 

 

Even Mikey Holding has a vendetta against Pandya. He has taken offense that some media outlet has described him as the next Kapil Dev. That is not Hardik Pandya's fault. 

Regarding being an alrounder.  Some people are saying, alrounder who can make the team wither both of their skills.  means one could play as a bowler or as a batsman. but that is not the case.  Name me one alrounder who can do that.  I dont think any of the top 4 alrounders of 80s could play as a batsman alone. None of them averaged more than 37 in tests.  Imran was the highest at 37. No team will play specialist batsman averaging 31 like Kapil or 33 like Botham.  Hadlee was even lower.  There is no such alrounder ever existed who could play both as a batsman or as a bowler.  They always have one strong suite and the second suite was weaker.

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1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

what did Stokes and Woakes did in India? Should we remove the alrounder tag from them after their failures in India?

Stokes in the first test of India-England series in India scored a hundred in the first innings and took a fifer in the 3rd test of that series. He was their best pacer along with broad I think.

Stokes was one of their best players in that test series.

Woakes was very poor in that test series.

 

In Odis, Stokes wasn't good with ball (remember those were high scoring matches) but contributed well with the bat and Woakes was the best new ball bowler in the Odi series who also won the 3rd Odi with his batting.

 

Ben stokes even bagged a very high Ipl contract in 2017 because of his all round performance in India.

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22 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Both Woakes and Stokes made their test debut in 2014.  Stokes is 27 and Woakes is 29.  Pandya is 24.  Pandya is just starting out.  5 of his 9 tests have been played outside SC in difficult conditions for batting and now his bowling did come of age in the last test.  if he can keep the same level of bowling in next three tests, his bowling will definitely become an asset for us.

Yes, one of the few things this tm is doing correct is developing pandya, in order to call him an all rounder or a proper allrounder he has to play test, we just can't play two spinners in SENA and to some extent in wi  and against Pakistan (if things get better and we play a series)

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To be fair i don't have issues with pandya playing but in overseas where you will need him much but can he win you one out of 3 - 4 matches alone with either bat or ball? Nope i don't think so. He will contribute few runs and take few wickets here or there. He is bits and pieces cricketer or better version of stuart binny. 

I would just play bhuvi ahead of pandya as all rounder in tests. He can score more consistently with bat and with ball in these conditions he is our clouderson (cloudeshwar kumar) 

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Just now, rkt.india said:

Both Woakes and Stokes made their test debut in 2014.  Stokes is 27 and Woakes is 29.  Pandya is 24.  Pandya is just starting out.  5 of his 9 tests have been played outside SC in difficult conditions for batting and now his bowling did come of age in the last test.  if he can keep the same level of bowling in next three tests, his bowling will definitely become an asset for us.

Stop kidding yourself! The second wicket was picked up after the lead crossed 200 & Curran when the lead was 250, both of these wickets were taken when the batsmen for looking for quick runs. Only Pope was truly beaten in that wickets package and he's a debutante! Next you'll tell us his batting has come of age because he scored 40+ at TB in the second innings, when he'll probably score next to nothing in the 1st :cheer:KKfPqUf.png

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You know what even Phehlukwayo out bowled him in SA :facepalm:

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8 minutes ago, swastikpanda2 said:

Stokes in the first test first innings scored a hundred and took a fifer in the 3rd test. He was their best pacer along with broad I think.

Stokes was one of their best players in that test series.

Woakes was very poor in that test series.

 

In Odis, Stokes wasn't good with ball (remember those were high scoring matches) but contributed well with the bat and Woakes was the best new ball bowler in the Odi series who also won the 3rd Odi with his batting.

 

Pandya also scored a 100 in his 1st or second if i remember in difficult circumstances shepherding the tail. and my post was about what did stokes and Woakes did in India? Also stokes did not score 100 in his first test. it was 4th or 5th test if i remember

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1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Yes, there is something seriously wrong.  Yeah, how they forgot his 3/66 easily.  He made more runs than other specialist batsmen. Important thing is Gupta wants 6th batsman in place of Pandya like 6th batsman has some magic wand, which other 5 don't have. 

When you are batsmen short, it puts additional pressure on other batsmen. 

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8 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Pandya also scored a 100 in his 1st or second if i remember in difficult circumstances shepherding the tail. and my post was about what did stokes and Woakes did in India? Also stokes did not score 100 in his first test. it was 4th or 5th test if i remember 

All what I had written, was about India- England test and odi series in India. :confused:

It wasn't about Stokes debut series.

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3 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

 

Stop kidding yourself! The second wicket was picked up after the lead crossed 200 & Curran when the lead was 250, both of these wickets were taken when the batsmen for looking for quick runs. Only Pope was truly beaten in that wickets package and he's a debutante! Next you'll tell us his batting has come of age because he scored 40+ at TB in the second innings, when he'll probably score next to nothing in the 1st :cheer:

 

 

 

You know what even Phehlukwayo out bowled him in SA :facepalm:

So what if he got his second wicket after England had 250 runs? what matters is Bairsstaw got edge while driving and it is not just about how many wickets he got but about how he bowled overall and he moved the ball both ways.  He bowled the best areas even better than Shami who served just too many full deliveries asking to be hit and remember conditions were pretty flat when Indian bowlers bowled.  here is the new image.  It is just a stat 9 tests are nothing.  Already that average and SR have come down by 10 points.

 

Bowling averages
  Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
Tests Insights on test 9 15 715 393 10 3/66 3/66 39.30 3.29 71.5 0 0 0

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Just now, rkt.india said:

So what if he got his second wicket after England had 250 runs? what matters is Bairsstaw got edge while driving and it is not just about how many wickets he got but about how he bowled overall and he moved the ball both ways.  He bowled the best areas even better than Shami who served just too many full deliveries asking to be hit and remember conditions were pretty flat when Indian bowlers bowled.  here is the new image.  It is just a stat 9 tests are nothing. 

Already that average and SR have come down by 10 points.

Bowling averages

  Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
Tests Insights on test 9 15 715 393 10 3/66 3/66 39.30 3.29 71.5 0 0 0

Useless runs are useless, so are these useless wickets. His 30 odd would've mattered more if it had come in the first innings at Lords, but he could hack only 11 from 2 edges.

 

Where's the wickets columns showing his coming off age? Didn't he bowl like 20 odd overs here? Where are his wickets  in the middle when partnership was growing, where's his growth when the team needs it most?

 

It will get worst in Aus, much worse and you know it!

 

Yeah check Ngidi, Andile, Stokes, Woakes' avg then come back to me!

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1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

sports editor for aaj tak

but even boria majumdar n others looks to be in same ship

 

There's no agenda. If one is a die-hard fan then everything will look like a conspiracy theory! To others it's shocking the guy is playing in the side.

 

Imagine if u see Stuart Binny playing in this team, he scores 10-20 runs every odd innings, a handful of docile overs, few lucky wickets.....u couldn't bear to watch it. One would think how is he even in the side?

 

It's the same feeling, only this time the guy is thinner, has 'swag' and wears jewellery. If there's a campaign to see him off the test team, I'd join in as well!

 

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23 minutes ago, swastikpanda2 said:

All what I had written, was about India- England test and odi series in India. :confused:

It wasn't about Stokes debut series.

oh yeah remember that was the flattest pitch we produced this decade.  In general, pitches were flat in that series accept probably in Wankhede and Vizag IIRC.  Cant compare those conditions to this in England where even England batsman have struggled.

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9 minutes ago, shortbread said:

There's no agenda. If one is a die-hard fan then everything will look like a conspiracy theory! To others it's shocking the guy is playing in the side.

 

Imagine if u see Stuart Binny playing in this team, he scores 10-20 runs every odd innings, a handful of docile overs, few lucky wickets.....u couldn't bear to watch it. One would think how is he even in the side?

 

It's the same feeling, only this time the guy is thinner, has 'swag' and wears jewellery. If there's a campaign to see him off the test team, I'd join in as well!

 

Vikrant Gupta has personal tiff with Pandya.  They had some words exchanged between them once.

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1 minute ago, rkt.india said:

Vikrant Gupta has personal tiff with Pandya.  They had some words exchanged between them once.

Really? When did that happen? Irrespective of Pandya's performances, that dolt often keeps choicest of words for him in the studio.

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20 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Useless runs are useless, so are these useless wickets. His 30 odd would've mattered more if it had come in the first innings at Lords, but he could hack only 11 from 2 edges.

 

Where's the wickets columns showing his coming off age? Didn't he bowl like 20 odd overs here? Where are his wickets  in the middle when partnership was growing, where's his growth when the team needs it most?

 

It will get worst in Aus, much worse and you know it!

 

Yeah check Ngidi, Andile, Stokes, Woakes' avg then come back to me!

Pandya bowled 17 overs 66/3.  This is as good as any.  where are the wickets of Shami, Ishant, Ashwin, Kuldeep when partnership was going?  Pandya barely bowled any overs during that partnership. He bowled 3 out of first 36 overs and by that time, both were in their 80s.  it was his 11th over 67th over of the innings when he was reintroduced and he was still beating the batsmen and it is during that spell, he got Bairstaw.  

 

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Pandya to Bairstow, no run, play and miss as Hardik gets extra bounce after hitting the seam. Some away movement as well to beat Bairstow's rather ambitious flay through the covers

 

Ngidi is a specialist bowler. Stokes averages 33 after 5 years of his test debut 43 tests, Woakes averages 33 as well despite playing home games in England. Both stokes and Woakes play so many games at home with duke balls against poor sides and still their averages are 33.  

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8 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

 

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Pandya to Woakes, no run, squares up the right-hander with some away movement, but Woakes is able to survive because he's been playing late and he's been clever with using soft hands
 
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Pandya to Bairstow, no run, play and miss as Hardik gets extra bounce after hitting the seam. Some away movement as well to beat Bairstow's rather ambitious flay through the covers

Lol in this way shami bowled like 30 - 35 balls which would like get wicket of any great batsman but he got only 3. Don't tell me but if you are just picking two balls from 16 - 17 overs he bowled then he is really useless. If you have to watch what a good test bowling is then watch shami on 4th day when he was bowling rockets for first 4 - 5 overs till they started slogging and edging him.

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Just now, rkt.india said:

Pandya bowled 17 overs 66/3.  This is as good as any.  where are the wickets of Shami, Ishant, Ashwin, Kuldeep when partnership was going?  Pandya barely bowled any overs during that partnership. He bowled 3 out of first 36 overs and by that time, both were in their 80s.  it was his 11th over 67th over of the innings when he was reintroduced and he was still beating the batsmen and it is during that spell, he got Bairstaw.  

 

66.3
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Pandya to Woakes, no run, squares up the right-hander with some away movement, but Woakes is able to survive because he's been playing late and he's been clever with using soft hands
 
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Pandya to Bairstow, no run, play and miss as Hardik gets extra bounce after hitting the seam. Some away movement as well to beat Bairstow's rather ambitious flay through the covers

 

Ngidi is a specialist bowler. Stokes averages 33 after 5 years of his test debut 43 tests, Woakes averages 33 as well despite playing home games in England. Both stokes and Woakes play so many games at home with duke balls against poor sides and still their averages are 33.  

It's not as good as any, Shami was the best bowler, Pandya's figures may show that he bowled well but he wasn't even on the same plane so far as penetration is concerned.

 

So what can we expect from Pandya the A/R in England, el cheapo wickets or runs?

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On ideal surfaces, where opposition or even Indian seamers are avg sub 25 or sub 20, that avg and S/R is pathetic. I'm still not seeing that growth that you talked about in this batting A/R :whack3:

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And don't give me that newbie crap, Pandya wouldn't score a hundred at Perth or 250 odd in SA in this lifetime or 8 more.

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9 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

It's not as good as any, Shami was the best bowler, Pandya's figures may show that he bowled well but he wasn't even on the same plane so far as penetration is concerned.

 

So what can we expect from Pandya the A/R in England, el cheapo wickets or runs?

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On ideal surfaces, where opposition or even Indian seamers are avg sub 25 or sub 20, that avg and S/R is pathetic. I'm still not seeing that growth that you talked about in this batting A/R :whack3:

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And don't give me that newbie crap, Pandya wouldn't score a hundred at Perth or 250 odd in SA in this lifetime or 8 more.

 How many Indian batsmen have scored 200 in SA and 100s at Perth? No indian batsman in history has scored 200 in SA, none of the current batsman have a 100 at Perth. 

 

Regarding penetration.  Yes Shami was better but he was still the second best bowler for us.  I watched his first 7 overs and he was beating the batsman every over.  And you cant compare an 8 test old to likes of Shami, Stokes, Woakes, etc.  Neither as a batsman nor as a bowler.  According to your criteria, Kohli would not have been playing for India right now if we look at his first 7-8 tests.

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33 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

oh yeah remember that was the flattest pitch we produced this decade.  In general, pitches were flat in that series accept probably in Wankhede and Vizag IIRC.  Cant compare those conditions to this in England where even England batsman have struggled.

Ain't comparing anything. Just wanted to point that Stokes wasn't a failure in India. He even bagged the highest IPL contract for foreign player on the basis of his performance in India.

The thing is Stokes scored a ton and even took a fifer in Test series. Can say it as a decent performance but a failure? I don't think so.

 

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Just now, rkt.india said:

 How many Indian batsmen have scored 200 in SA and 100s at Perth? No indian batsman in history has scored 200 in SA, none of the current batsman have a 100 at Perth. 

 

Regarding penetration.  Yes Shami was better but he was still the second best bowler for us.  I watched his first 7 overs and he was beating the batsman every over.  And you cant compare an 8 test old to likes of Shami, Stokes, Woakes, etc.  Neither as a batsman nor as a bowler.  According to your criteria, Kohli would not have been playing for India right now if we look at his first 7-8 tests.

So about that 100 he scored, it wasn't a flat track? What about his 3 wickets here, was Lords a road?

 

He was bowling a good line outside off, he didn't do a bad job per se but Bumrah, Kumar or even Umesh might've done much better at that time. His runs in the end did not matter, nor did his wickets, which besides Pope were totally worthless.

 

So once again, what's the use of this A/R who can't pick up a fifer or score a 100 in any of the 10 innings he's played?

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The problems can be easily resolved if Pandya puts in a performance that counts! It's his 3rd test in England and let him prove his worth.

 

Rest assured Kohli will play him. If it's few docile overs again along with a 10-20 odd when batting, then there's no point in blaming others.

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1 minute ago, R!TTER said:

So about that 100 he scored, it wasn't a flat track? What about his 3 wickets here, was Lords a road?

 

He was bowling a good line outside off, he didn't do a bad job per se but Bumrah, Kumar or even Umesh might've done much better at that time. His runs in the end did not matter, nor did his wickets, which besides Pope were totally worthless.

 

So once again, what's the use of this A/R who can't pick up a fifer or score a 100 in any of the 10 innings he's played?

yeah if Kuldeep or Ashwin had taken those wickets, they would certainly have become great bowling performances. Right? Personal biases have no end.

 

Umesh did play first test, struggled.  Yes, Bumrah and Kumar might have because they are experienced bowlers but they were not there so no use mentioning there.  There is no guarantee, even BK went for 5 rpo at Newlands on day one. Ishant was there at Lords and he did nothing in the same conditions, was going close to 5 rpo.  It is not just about wicket.  For someone like Pandya who was fast tracked, it is about getting the areas right and he was the best in that aspect among the three seamers we played.  He was the most consistent.

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2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

If u see their shows ,their reporters....everyones focus is just pandya.

I remeber when ganguly was with Aaj tak he scolded Vikrant gupta by telling him- ur to harsh on pandya , i knw why ....ill talk to u when i meet u 

 

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What about removing batsman tag from our specialist 

 

I thought i was the one who thought like that  , till boria tweeted this n everyone noticed it and bashed him

 

 

 

Even here after a point this guy ask-

What has ur 5th bowler done in last game.....was he sleeping???? and in the end all of them want him dropped .....

 

Even if u take Videos from SA tour- it was all anti him.....they were jst waiting for him to fail post 93 and they jst wen bonkers

 

 

Now i dnt care what these bunch of jokers say, but what concerns me they have huge following n ppl who make opinon watching them and this is not good for any young cricketer . They have shamelessly promoted Kaul selection of siraj for long coz he is from north region as they all are . 

 

What is your agenda? Why do you keep on supporing him? 

Having said that at least Pandya is giving it all. Others are not.

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I would anyday select Ashwin as the allrounder and play a bowler in place of Pandya for test ckt... For white ball ckt, its important for our world cup ambitions , that Pandya be given more chances and groomed.

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Just now, rkt.india said:

yeah if Kuldeep or Ashwin had taken those wickets, they would certainly have become great bowling performances. Right? Personal biases have no end.

 

Umesh did play first test, struggled.  Yes, Bumrah and Kumar might have because they are experienced bowlers but they were not there so no use mentioning there.  There is no guarantee, even BK went for 5 rpo at Newlands on day one. Ishant was there at Lords and he did nothing in the same conditions, was going close to 5 rpo.  It is not just about wicket.  For someone like Pandya who was fast tracked, it is about getting the areas right and he was the best in that aspect among the three seamers we played.  He was the most consistent.

Only if they were top order wickets, also when we were still in the game, otherwise they'd be just cheap wickets as in case of Pandya.

 

So did Shami in second innings, Ishant here at Lords. Do you drop your best pacers based on one innings in a close match? What's Pandya done to be undroppable, scored a quintuple hundred in someone's dreams?

 

No, it's all about performance, all the time. You sound like Dhoni with his process' rhetoric, Pandya needs to show exponential growth, for him to be useful to India, otherwise he needs to be kicked out.

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1 hour ago, R!TTER said:

And don't give me that newbie crap, Pandya wouldn't score a hundred at Perth or 250 odd in SA in this lifetime or 8 more.

there have been very few hundreds in sena countries by ind batsmen ,only 37 have got hundreds over all these years ,most have got only 1 .

 

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