Lala Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/24388747/hardik-pandya-not-test-allrounder-yet-michael-holding Hardik Pandya not a Test allrounder yet - Holding Hardik Pandya is not yet ready to take the allrounder's spot in India's Test team, according to former West Indies fast bowler Michael Holding, because he is not effective as a batsman and lacks control and consistency with the ball. "The [Indian] attack has not been the right balance," Holding told ESPNcricinfo. "Apparently they are playing Hardik Pandya as an allrounder to help out with the bowling. When he bowls he isn't as effective as he should be. If he was a good batsman, if he was getting runs - 60s, 70s, not even regular hundreds - at the number at which he bats and then he bowls and gets two or three wickets, happy, hallelujah. Happy with that. But he is not getting the amount of runs that can then allow him to get a wicket or two in the Test match. That doesn't work." Pandya made his Test debut last July in Sri Lanka, scoring a fifty in Galle and followed it with his maiden Test century in Pallekelle in his third Test. He has played nine Tests so far and, barring the home series against Sri Lanka for which he was rested late last year, he has been the only constant in the Test XI along with captain Virat Kohli. In his fledgling Test career, Pandya has had more success with bat than ball - 458 runs at an average of 32.71 with a century and three half-centuries, and 10 wickets at an average of 39.30 and a strike rate of 71.50. Overseas, Kohli has used Pandya largely to give the frontline bowlers relief. The Lord's Test was Pandya's most hectic in terms of bowling workload in a single innings - he bowled 17.1 overs and performed the role of the third seamer, assisting the new-ball pair of Mohammed Shami and Ishant Sharma. That Pandya had to bowl more was a consequence of Kohli's decision to field two spinners in wet and overcast conditions. Pandya took three wickets, having gone wicketless in the first Test at Edgbaston. Incidentally, he is the second highest run-scorer for India - after Kohli - this series. But the fact that R Ashwin is five runs behind Pandya, who has scored 90 in the two Tests, only illustrates how horrific the series has been for India's batsmen. Before the Lord's Test, Pandya had gone wicketless for four Tests, starting from the second match in South Africa in January. While appraising Pandya's bowling, Holding said he did not have many skills. "I don't think he does a lot with the ball. That is number one," Holding said. "He is not consistent. He does not have the control that puts batsmen under pressure constantly. He will bowl a couple of good deliveries, yes, but you need to have the control to put batsmen under pressure consistently. And he doesn't have that. If you are going to be a frontline bowler anywhere in the world, if you are going to be someone that your captain can rely on, that can throw you the ball and expect you to get wickets and expect you to have control, he is not really the man in my opinion." Holding said India were shooting themselves in the foot by playing Pandya as the third seamer because he does not have the "firepower" to help them take 20 wickets. When asked to describe his role after the third day's play at Lord's, Pandya did not want to classify himself as a batting or a bowling allrounder. "If I'm batting I think as a batsman and if I'm bowling I think as a bowler." Pandya had said. "I don't have any one particular role." Holding said India were trying to make Pandya perform the roles of two players, which he was not yet equipped to do. "Not if I have someone else who is fit," Holding said, when asked if Pandya should play at Trent Bridge. "If there is no one else, sure you have to play him. If there is someone else that is a specialist batsman or specialist bowler I will certainly prefer that. There must be someone that can bat better if they want a batsman, there must be someone who can bowl better if they want a bowler. But it seems as if they are trying to fill two spots with one person. He (Pandya) is not there yet." Despite his scathing assessment of Pandya, Holding said he is young and has time to develop as an allrounder. "I am not going to tell anyone that you won't be there because he is a young man. But he is not there yet. I heard a mention, when I was working in South Africa: 'he is the next Kapil Dev'. I ain't going to tell anybody he's not going to be the next Kapil Dev, but he is nowhere near there yet. And they need to find someone who can contribute a lot more to this team right now." Michael Holding was speaking at the launch of Proatar, a mentoring app that puts amateur cricketers in touch with elite players to help them raise their game. http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/24388747/hardik-pandya-not-test-allrounder-yet-michael-holding Link to comment
shortbread Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 He has the swag of an all-rounder! I don't think anyone playing this England India test series has Pandya's swag. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Detonator Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 * off, he is a great batsman when bowling and awesome bowler while batting. An unique all-rounder. Frustrated, wanted_desi, Vilander and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 how many batsmen have scored 60s 70s with the bat for India in this series? Clarke 1 Link to comment
Number Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Holding is jealous of our rockstar UrmiSinhaRay and Vilander 1 1 Link to comment
zen Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Will make it in to the WI team as a batsman Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Lala said: "I don't think he does a lot with the ball. That is number one," Holding said. "He is not consistent. He does not have the control that puts batsmen under pressure constantly. He bowled the most controlled lengths last game As if umesh n ishant the so called bowlers havent bowled filth 1 hour ago, Lala said: He will bowl a couple of good deliveries, yes, but you need to have the control to put batsmen under pressure consistently. And he doesn't have that. If you are going to be a frontline bowler anywhere in the world, if you are going to be someone that your captain can rely on, that can throw you the ball and expect you to get wickets and expect you to have control, he is not really the man in my opinion." Does he want him to be a frontline bowler or all rounder ?? 1 hour ago, Lala said: Holding said India were shooting themselves in the foot by playing Pandya as the third seamer because he does not have the "firepower" to help them take 20 wickets. Last innings he only took 3 wkts out of 7 1 hour ago, Lala said: There must be someone that can bat better if they want a batsman, there must be someone who can bowl better if they want a bowler. But it seems as if they are trying to fill two spots with one person. He (Pandya) is not there yet." Ohh yea ofcourse We bought in pujara last game as per ur suggestion n he batted better then pandya And kuldeep bowled better then pandya to 1 hour ago, Lala said: Despite his scathing assessment of Pandya, Holding said he is young and has time to develop as an allrounder. "I am not going to tell anyone that you won't be there because he is a young man. But he is not there yet. I heard a mention, when I was working in South Africa: 'he is the next Kapil Dev'. I ain't going to tell anybody he's not going to be the next Kapil Dev, but he is nowhere near there yet. And they need to find someone who can contribute a lot more to this team right now." Why do u need to compare him to kapil (once in a generation cricketer) or anyone . Pandya didnt declare he is the next kapil Ok but 1st find ppl who even contributes....more less baad men dhundh lena Link to comment
gattaca Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Any time holding opens his mouth close your ears. He has no good advice for India. I am happy Bumrah is playing next matches I hope he performs well and shuts him up express bowling 1 Link to comment
LordPrabhzy Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 52 minutes ago, Number said: Holding is jealous of our rockstar he looks like a nutcase walking around london dressed like that. he'll probs get laughed at. Number, Switchblade and UrmiSinhaRay 1 2 Link to comment
Tattieboy Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, LordPrabhzy said: he looks like a nutcase walking around london dressed like that. he'll probs get laughed at. In London that is considered conservative UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
LordPrabhzy Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just now, Tattieboy said: In London that is considered conservative not for an indian pretending to be black UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Temujin Khaghan Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Towards the end of the article, Cricinfo themselves couldn't help mention that holding's analysis was scathing. He always had terrible agenda against Indian cricket. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Number said: Holding is jealous of our rockstar he reminds me of nana patekar here Number 1 Link to comment
Clarke Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) People including cricketers don't understand that Hardik Himanshu Pandya isn't Hardik SobersImranDevBothamHadleeKallis Pandya. U can't let good be the enemy of the best. We wouldn't be playing him if we had VVS Laxman available or Ishant & Umesh weren't so inconsistent on green tops as well. At least he's shown promise of that 60 & 2 wickets, hopefully he can be more consistent. Edited August 16, 2018 by Clarke Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Hardik has done better than most in this tour so far. So from that view point he is the least of the problems.That is the matter that counts at the moment. Whether he justifies his position in the long run is another matter altogether GolGappe and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Texy Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) Holding is right though...few wks ago Hardik was being compared to Kapil Dev...but Hardik has the potential Edited August 16, 2018 by Texy UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Time is ripe for a volt face for the whole crowd..so be it. Link to comment
shortbread Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 17 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said: not for an indian pretending to be black That strategy has won him dozens of loyal supporters! UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
shortbread Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 18 runs when faced with the best batting conditions on the tour so far and when India was under no pressure! Pandya is a unique gem, bowling all-rounder when India bats, batting all-rounder when India bowls! The Dark Horse, Rightarmfast, Switchblade and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
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