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Hardik Pandya not a Test allrounder yet - Holding


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This guy good in shorter formats only and should stick to that what he is capable of. There are player pools who are good at T20s, test and ODIs. Some players can change gears (like Kohli) and some cannot. therefore he is in the pool of shorter format. Moreover he does not have patient to play test cricket. :cantstop:

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Seems accumulating is not the strength of Hardik. He should start playing the attacking game right from the word go, like hitting that 22 runs off one   over   in SL. That's where his strength lies and that is where he can be useful to the team.Otherwise, if he continues like this; his chances of  excelling in test cricket is grim.

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10 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

Seems accumulating is not the strength of Hardik. He should start playing the attacking game right from the word go, like hitting that 22 runs off one   over   in SL. That's where his strength lies and that is where he can be useful to the team.Otherwise, if he continues like this; his chances of  excelling in test cricket is grim.

He is not equipped to play such innings outside subcontinent. he can only bully inferior bowling attacks on extreme batting friendly conditions. To expect him to score fast in even remotely bowling conditions is a bit too much.

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20 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

Seems accumulating is not the strength of Hardik. He should start playing the attacking game right from the word go, like hitting that 22 runs off one   over   in SL. That's where his strength lies and that is where he can be useful to the team.Otherwise, if he continues like this; his chances of  excelling in test cricket is grim.

I thought he batted nicely as per the situation. There is no need to go for big hits in the dying stages of the game and when there are 4 days remaining .... You cannot play for that good ball that will eventually come .... It was an unfortunate dismissal but the guy did well to apply himself and take Ind through .... If he had got out earlier, who knows Ind could have lost few more wkts 

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34 minutes ago, zen said:

I thought he batted nicely as per the situation. There is no need to go for big hits in the dying stages of the game and when there are 4 days remaining .... You cannot play for that good ball that will eventually come .... It was an unfortunate dismissal but the guy did well to apply himself and take Ind through .... If he had got out earlier, who knows Ind could have lost few more wkts 

'as per the situation' is valid if he would have remained not out  and continued tomorrow to get at least a 50 by batting in the same vein.Other wise  there is no point  in even continuing in the team.He is supposed to get runs and I think he do not have the technique to

play a waiting game.

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4 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

'as per the situation' is valid if he would have remained not out  and continued tomorrow to get at least a 50 by batting in the same vein.Other wise  there is no point  in even continuing in the team.He is supposed to get runs and I think he do not have the technique to

play a waiting game.

You are writing as if players have the power to decide whether to remain not out. If that were the case Kohli would still be playing with 100+ runs .... Pandya was looking to play a long inning from what I could see and applying himself accordingly. Pant was taking chances so there was no need for him to do that as well .... You cannot go for unnecessary shots in the dying moments of the game. Pujara's dismissal teaches you a lesson too .... Unfortunately, he got out .... have to move on .... and focus on rest of the game 

 

Let's not play this game: At the dying stages of a session,  Pujara gets out -> played unnecessary shot. Pandya gets out -> did not play shots, when he did well to apply himself 

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1 minute ago, zen said:

You are writing as if players have the power to decide whether to remain not out. If that were the case Kohli would still be playing with 100+ runs .... Pandya was looking to play a long inning from what I could see and applying himself accordingly. Pant was taking chances so there was no need for him to do that as well .... You cannot go for unnecessary shots in the dying moments of the game. Pujara's dismissal teaches you a lesson too .... Unfortunately, he got out .... have to move on .... and focus on rest of the game 

 

Let's not play this game: At the dying stages of a session,  Pujara gets out -> played unnecessary shot. Pandya gets out -> did not play shots, when he did well to apply himself 

'players have the power to decide whether to remain not out' is not  the important point , they need to get adequate runs  for the team before they get out. And Pandya is not getting enough runs for  the team  by any  yardstick

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Just now, rtmohanlal said:

'players have the power to decide whether to remain not out' is not  the important point , they need to get adequate runs  for the team before they get out. And Pandya is not getting enough runs for  the team  by any  yardstick

And Pandya was trying to do just that before he unfortunately got out .... As I said, otherwise every specialist batsmen would have got big scores before they got out . Do you think Pujara, Dhawan, Rahul, Rahane, etc. wanted to get out :facepalm:

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Just now, rtmohanlal said:

' unfortunately '  does not count in cricket...... a batsman needs to get runs .... simple .... Pandya is not getting enough runs expected of him.

so are the specialist batsmen .... what do you recommend they do? Start Yoga to improve their mental powers so they decide when to get our or not?

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He's a bowling all-rounder or he does not play at all. I hope he and the manage ment realise this. He should only play tests in SENA countries if he can effectively pay the role of 4th seamer . Even if he scores 30 's and 40's with the bat that's fine as long as he makes inroads with the ball. Besides when all our bats apart from Kohli and rahane have failed it's hard to criticise him . Ditto about  the SA tour. When our top 5 can consistently put on scores then we can worry about his role in the team. 

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