Lala Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Holding was correct at the end. Frustrated and Rightarmfast 1 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Only a braindead would consider Pandya to play in a test match. The guy is a hack. Frustrated and Switchblade 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Needs to be dropped for next game. Switchblade and The Dark Horse 2 Link to comment
Charlie_ Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Should have played Nair or Jadeja. Get Vihari/Shaw/Mayank for 4th and 5th test Link to comment
R!TTER Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, shortbread said: 18 runs when faced with the best batting conditions on the tour so far and when India was under no pressure! Pandya is a unique gem, bowling all-rounder when India bats, batting all-rounder when India bowls! Fielding A/R when he's doing neither Rightarmfast and Switchblade 2 Link to comment
Lala Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 This guy good in shorter formats only and should stick to that what he is capable of. There are player pools who are good at T20s, test and ODIs. Some players can change gears (like Kohli) and some cannot. therefore he is in the pool of shorter format. Moreover he does not have patient to play test cricket. Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Seems accumulating is not the strength of Hardik. He should start playing the attacking game right from the word go, like hitting that 22 runs off one over in SL. That's where his strength lies and that is where he can be useful to the team.Otherwise, if he continues like this; his chances of excelling in test cricket is grim. Frustrated 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said: Seems accumulating is not the strength of Hardik. He should start playing the attacking game right from the word go, like hitting that 22 runs off one over in SL. That's where his strength lies and that is where he can be useful to the team.Otherwise, if he continues like this; his chances of excelling in test cricket is grim. He is not equipped to play such innings outside subcontinent. he can only bully inferior bowling attacks on extreme batting friendly conditions. To expect him to score fast in even remotely bowling conditions is a bit too much. Link to comment
zen Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said: Seems accumulating is not the strength of Hardik. He should start playing the attacking game right from the word go, like hitting that 22 runs off one over in SL. That's where his strength lies and that is where he can be useful to the team.Otherwise, if he continues like this; his chances of excelling in test cricket is grim. I thought he batted nicely as per the situation. There is no need to go for big hits in the dying stages of the game and when there are 4 days remaining .... You cannot play for that good ball that will eventually come .... It was an unfortunate dismissal but the guy did well to apply himself and take Ind through .... If he had got out earlier, who knows Ind could have lost few more wkts Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 34 minutes ago, zen said: I thought he batted nicely as per the situation. There is no need to go for big hits in the dying stages of the game and when there are 4 days remaining .... You cannot play for that good ball that will eventually come .... It was an unfortunate dismissal but the guy did well to apply himself and take Ind through .... If he had got out earlier, who knows Ind could have lost few more wkts 'as per the situation' is valid if he would have remained not out and continued tomorrow to get at least a 50 by batting in the same vein.Other wise there is no point in even continuing in the team.He is supposed to get runs and I think he do not have the technique to play a waiting game. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
zen Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said: 'as per the situation' is valid if he would have remained not out and continued tomorrow to get at least a 50 by batting in the same vein.Other wise there is no point in even continuing in the team.He is supposed to get runs and I think he do not have the technique to play a waiting game. You are writing as if players have the power to decide whether to remain not out. If that were the case Kohli would still be playing with 100+ runs .... Pandya was looking to play a long inning from what I could see and applying himself accordingly. Pant was taking chances so there was no need for him to do that as well .... You cannot go for unnecessary shots in the dying moments of the game. Pujara's dismissal teaches you a lesson too .... Unfortunately, he got out .... have to move on .... and focus on rest of the game Let's not play this game: At the dying stages of a session, Pujara gets out -> played unnecessary shot. Pandya gets out -> did not play shots, when he did well to apply himself Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 minute ago, zen said: You are writing as if players have the power to decide whether to remain not out. If that were the case Kohli would still be playing with 100+ runs .... Pandya was looking to play a long inning from what I could see and applying himself accordingly. Pant was taking chances so there was no need for him to do that as well .... You cannot go for unnecessary shots in the dying moments of the game. Pujara's dismissal teaches you a lesson too .... Unfortunately, he got out .... have to move on .... and focus on rest of the game Let's not play this game: At the dying stages of a session, Pujara gets out -> played unnecessary shot. Pandya gets out -> did not play shots, when he did well to apply himself 'players have the power to decide whether to remain not out' is not the important point , they need to get adequate runs for the team before they get out. And Pandya is not getting enough runs for the team by any yardstick Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
zen Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, rtmohanlal said: 'players have the power to decide whether to remain not out' is not the important point , they need to get adequate runs for the team before they get out. And Pandya is not getting enough runs for the team by any yardstick And Pandya was trying to do just that before he unfortunately got out .... As I said, otherwise every specialist batsmen would have got big scores before they got out . Do you think Pujara, Dhawan, Rahul, Rahane, etc. wanted to get out Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 ' unfortunately ' does not count in cricket...... a batsman needs to get runs .... simple .... Pandya is not getting enough runs expected of him. The Dark Horse and Rightarmfast 1 1 Link to comment
zen Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, rtmohanlal said: ' unfortunately ' does not count in cricket...... a batsman needs to get runs .... simple .... Pandya is not getting enough runs expected of him. so are the specialist batsmen .... what do you recommend they do? Start Yoga to improve their mental powers so they decide when to get our or not? philcric 1 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Averages 29 with the bat and over 40 with the ball in domestics. Grooming him is more important than wins. Link to comment
Stradlater Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Pant the debutant showed more fight than this circus clown. Time to deport him to some Micronesian country. Frustrated, Rightarmfast and Lannister 1 2 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 27 minutes ago, Stradlater said: Pant the debutant showed more fight than this circus clown. Time to deport him to some Micronesian country. He did fight hard yesterday to be fair. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 6 hours ago, zen said: so are the specialist batsmen .... what do you recommend they do? Start Yoga to improve their mental powers so they decide when to get our or not? and that's why their place is in danger. They are losing their spots. Can't say same about Pandya. The Dark Horse 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 He's a bowling all-rounder or he does not play at all. I hope he and the manage ment realise this. He should only play tests in SENA countries if he can effectively pay the role of 4th seamer . Even if he scores 30 's and 40's with the bat that's fine as long as he makes inroads with the ball. Besides when all our bats apart from Kohli and rahane have failed it's hard to criticise him . Ditto about the SA tour. When our top 5 can consistently put on scores then we can worry about his role in the team. Link to comment
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