R!TTER Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Just now, CG said: Just now, rkt.india said: It depends on conditions. We scored 332 here. Conditions were not so bad for England to get all out in a session.This is their conditions they should bat better. Pune 2017, never forget Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 minute ago, R!TTER said: Hold your horses, these are all extremely pacer friendly conditions. Wait till we get a really flat pitch, like in India or Aus, to see where he stands. Pollack isn't wrong in his initial assessment. I sense he's putting him down at every opportunity. It's not like he's played in the subcontinent so far..So wait till he gets there! Link to comment
Adi BB Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, rkt.india said: It depends on conditions. We scored 332 here. Half of the time we batted it were overcast conditions and somehow we toughened it out and made the full use of the conditions when the sun was out so it wasn't as if the conditions were easy when we batted .I think England bowlers are missing a bit of pace in their armoury for this pitch which the indian pacers have sandeep, Vilander and express bowling 1 2 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Just now, The Dark Horse said: I sense he's putting him down at every opportunity. It's not like he's played in the subcontinent so far..So wait till he gets there! Let's cross the bridge when we get there, in the meantime enjoy Pommies squealing. Link to comment
Pollack Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 minute ago, The Dark Horse said: I sense he's putting him down at every opportunity. It's not like he's played in the subcontinent so far..So wait till he gets there! Rest assured I am not putting him down. Bumrah is a champion LOI bowler. I have my doubts about bumrah the test bowler which would eventually be cleared for good or worse as he plays more. The Dark Horse 1 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, Pollack said: Rest assured I am not putting him down. Bumrah is a champion LOI bowler. I have my doubts about bumrah the test bowler which would eventually be cleared for good or worse as he plays more. Cool man. Link to comment
putrevus Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Ishant was better, Ishant has become must for this team just for his consistency.People who complain Kohli does not give youngsters a chance should understand it was Kohli who gave Bumrah debut over Ishant. Link to comment
MechEng Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Interestingly Holding was against playing him in England and favoured BK, because hit the deck bowlers are not suited to English conditions. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 If Umesh gains some control, Bhuvi, Umesh, Bumrah, Shami can be a handful. Ishant despite picking odd wickets here and there he is at best still serving as a support bowler not a strike bowler. He has one of the slowest progress. When Broad was tonked for 6 sixes, Ishant had already bagged a fifer in Tests. Broad is not even a conventional swing bowler. He is more a seam bowler. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 12 hours ago, MechEng said: Interestingly Holding was against playing him in England and favoured BK, because hit the deck bowlers are not suited to English conditions. BK would easily outbowl Bumrah in England, like he did in SA. BK has the best control among all our pace bowlers, it's not even close. That was a general statement which is true give the context, for instance see Broad's avg vs Anderson this series. Link to comment
Vilander Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 4 hours ago, CG said: 4 hours ago, rkt.india said: It depends on conditions. We scored 332 here. Conditions were not so bad for England to get all out in a session.This is their conditions they should bat better. But they are faking poms and they had a collective premature ejaculation in last test match when toss gave them the match. Link to comment
Vilander Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 2 hours ago, MechEng said: Interestingly Holding was against playing him in England and favoured BK, because hit the deck bowlers are not suited to English conditions. Holding is just against India. Nothing more to see there. express bowling 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 7 hours ago, R!TTER said: BK would easily outbowl Bumrah in England, like he did in SA. BK has the best control among all our pace bowlers, it's not even close. That was a general statement which is true give the context, for instance see Broad's avg vs Anderson this series. Bumrah has the x-factor. if BK would replace someone it would be Shami Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 9 hours ago, putrevus said: Ishant was better, Ishant has become must for this team just for his consistency.People who complain Kohli does not give youngsters a chance should understand it was Kohli who gave Bumrah debut over Ishant. but Ishant was horrendous last game. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, rkt.india said: Bumrah has the x-factor. if BK would replace someone it would be Shami Between the two BK would still be more consistent, I'd imagine only Aus where Bumrah can regularly outbowl him. Possibly, or Ishant for me. Link to comment
Kerberos Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 14 hours ago, Cricketics said: Shami was the one decent. Bumrah kept asking questions with both the new and semi old ball. Yes, Ishant too bowed well today, infact everyone did including Pandya who got rewarded with a fifer but Bumrah up the order was a bright change for us. His awkward angle did trouble England. Also Shami kept bowling short while Bumrah is known for bowling short deliveries, he in fact used his short deliveries to perfection and did not over do it with the new ball. We need to bowl a tad fuller. I wish our bowlers do learn to execute that more often, surpeise short stuff and tad fuller at most times to find an edge. They otherwise have bowled fine line all together this series. Batsmen must take this game away from England now. Bumrah's pace did trouble England. Bumrah however was a bit short-ish. Both Shami and bumrah were average with the new ball. Pandya>Ishant>Bumrah>Shami Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Bumrah is coming back after an-injry induced break and had not played any match for 7 weeks before yesterday. No practice matches even. This makes people rusty ... but, he looked in control after 3 overs or so and his pace was up. This is not easy after such a long break. Bumrah should bowl even better from now on. Mosher 1 Link to comment
ThePhenomenal1 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Hopefully an eye opener to how important our pace bowlers are and to manage their fitness properly. Khota and express bowling 2 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, ThePhenomenal1 said: Hopefully an eye opener to how important our pace bowlers are and to manage their fitness properly. That's not going to happen, remember the * up with Kumar - who's bright idea was that? Link to comment
ThePhenomenal1 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, R!TTER said: That's not going to happen, remember the * up with Kumar - who's bright idea was that? Plus saha. The fact that its out there in the media and has been criticised is better than it being covered up. Link to comment
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