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Ravichandran Ashwin... is he fit enough to play test cricket?

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17 minutes ago, Sachinism said:

People complaining a spinner didn't run through a batting line-up on a Day 1 pitch in England :facepalm:

I have no problems with bowling. Actually, he is bowling better than ever in an overseas tour. Needs a bit of luck. He will have a role to play at the Oval.

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People complaining a spinner didn't run through a batting line-up on a Day 1 pitch in England facepalm.gif

No, complaint about how left handed Curran and Moin tonked this spinner out if attack few times. Realised after a long time to change his pace to get his wicket. By that time it was too late. England ended up having a decent score once again, after getting reduced to 86/6... 

 

You don’t always need spin to take wickets...

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7 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

I have no problems with bowling. Actually, he is bowling better than ever in an overseas tour. Needs a bit of luck. He will have a role to play at the Oval.

No spinner is going to be effective on a day 1 pitch with no real rough/foot holes to utilize. The reason ashin bowled so much is because apart from Bumrah, shami and Ishant, Kohli had no one else to turn to.

 

I don't like to see Bumrah bowl 20 overs a day regularly. That doesn't bode well.

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6 minutes ago, asterix said:

No, complaint about how left handed Curran and Moin tonked this spinner out if attack few times. Realised after a long time to change his pace to get his wicket. By that time it was too late. England ended up having a decent score once again, after getting reduced to 86/6... 

 

You don’t always need spin to take wickets...

The numbers were presented in the previous page, too bad you didn't respond to that. If you could take some time out and pin point your exact grouse we could arrive at something substantial. If 9(22) constitutes tonking, may be you have exceptionally high standards.

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On a day 1 wicket a spinner takes 2/40 and we are still complaining? The basic fact is that the moisture in the pitch dried up and it became a good batting wicket in the afternoon, like it always does in England. Sam Curran is a good young player and he just played positively and scored runs. Ashwin did well to keep runs under check and picked up 2 wickets. On an overseas tour, this is the best you can expect from your premier spinner on first innings of a Test match. I know some people just want to get rid of him from the team for Good, but that aint happening for the moment, so scream as much as you want, Juddu isn't getting in. 

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2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Exactly what else you have to do. lol not like doing production support late in the night like me :(( With everything from cleaning the house, mowing the lawn, driving up and down 60 miles every day i still find time to work out. What is wrong with these guys.

exactly..lol. thats what irritates me about Ashwin..

 

but sorry to hear abt production support..the ravages of IT..

 

mowing the lawn in summer and clearing the snow in winter is hard work though hehe..careful with the back but its healthy.

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8 hours ago, rtmohanlal said:

i don't  understand the OTT  criticism Ashwin is getting here.Agreed he could have done a bit more, but 246 still is a fine performance by bowling unit. Now it is up to the batting to show up. Put at least 375  on the board and then can  have a chance.

The site needs time pass :winky:

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8 hours ago, Vilander said:

Define a great Indian spinner in overseas conditions waiting.

Kumble I have a huge respect about this man.if iam not wrong he was instrumental for our win in Perth and got bucket full of wickets in 2003 series in aus.i am yet waiting for that kind of performance by fatso Ashwin.hamar apna minefield expert As:adore:hwin 

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32 minutes ago, VT87 said:

Kumble I have a huge respect about this man.if iam not wrong he was instrumental for our win in Perth and got bucket full of wickets in 2003 series in aus.i am yet waiting for that kind of performance by fatso Ashwin.hamar apna minefield expert As:adore:hwin 

Do you know how many years Kumble played before becoming decent overseas? A good part of 10 years. He was very ordinary on the 1996 tour to SA, 1996 tour to England, 1997 tour in WI, 1999 tour to Australia. His started evolving as the overseas spinner only after 2001 (His debut was in 1990). He used to keep things quiet but did not pick many wickets except for few innings here an there. The 2003 Australia tour you are talking about was 13 years post his debut and at least 10 years post him becoming regular in the Indian team. Spinners develop late and Ashwin is at the stage of his career where he will start to deliver for us. Don't expect spinners to run through batting line ups on seaming conditions overseas. Like how we should not expect our pacers to run through batting line ups in India. He did well as the support act, picking up 2/40. Also Sam Curran survived a very close LBW shout, only saved because of the umpires call. He took 7 wickets in the first game at Edgbaston, I sure that was a minefield? 

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Ok this guy is a obviously a troll who just responds with no content just to bump his thread.  

41 minutes ago, asterix said:

It’s unfortunate tat we’ve to depend on this unfit sloth because of lack of options available...
Got rid of him from LOIs.
Only being persisted in Test matches as it’s his only means of livelihood..

 

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The numbers were presented in the previous page, too bad you didn't respond to that. If you could take some time out and pin point your exact grouse we could arrive at something substantial. If 9(22) constitutes tonking, may be you have exceptionally high standards.

Look, I’m not used to write long posts and stats etc...

 

Let me put in a layman’s language...

 

Ashwin used to be a STRIKE bowler... but being over intelligent, snobbish, he’s tried to do too much things with his bowling and now he’s just an average spinner...

 

You can’t trust him as a strike bowler. Any decent batsman can negotiate his spin. For all all so called bag of tricks. A rookie 20 year old “left hander” is able to play him with some application. He was taken to cleaners by the same 20 year old in his previous match...

 

The guy is not fit enough. Barely managed to play in the last match with frequent breaks to the loo...

 

He’s not fully fit and is hiding his injuries just to keep his place in the team...

 

Yes, his captain doesn’t backs him in his bowling. He’s an impatient captain. But Ashwin is not like Kumble either. He had potential but for some reason he’s screwed up his bowling.

 

You guys can be suckers of him but deep down you very well know that the guy had potential but because of his ego or high intelligence whatever, he’s now screwed up and not as lethal as he was shaping to be in his early days...

 

Those who are hoping “with baited breath” that Ashwin will become more “potent” in near future like Kumble, good luck to you guys...

 

Ashwin will do well to get even 50% close to Kumble... he doesn’t has work ethics or any attitude to help him achieve that...

 

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