Number Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Many posters here said Rahane is failing because he lost confidence as he was dropped for Rohit for one test in SA. In England he has played 7 innings and has scored in just one. Do people still blame the captain/coach for his failures ? Is it not the responsibility of batsman himself to grind out, spend time in the middle, score some runs and regain the confidence. chewy, Laaloo, express bowling and 2 others 2 1 1 1 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Number said: Many posters here said Rahane is failing because he lost confidence as he was dropped for Rohit for one test in SA. In England he has played 7 innings and has scored in just one. Do people still blame the captain/coach for his failures ? Is it not the responsibility of batsman himself to grind out, spend time in the middle, score some runs and regain the confidence. The only one who can feel himself undone by the mgmt is pujara. Rahane keeps getting chances after chances and fails to deliver. Enough is enough Suhaan, sandsaims, Sgattick10 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Vilander Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Rahane has been poor this series. Link to comment
philcric Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, Number said: Many posters here said Rahane is failing because he lost confidence as he was dropped for Rohit for one test in SA. In England he has played 7 innings and has scored in just one. Do people still blame the captain/coach for his failures ? Is it not the responsibility of batsman himself to grind out, spend time in the middle, score some runs and regain the confidence. 2 tests. Link to comment
Number Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, philcric said: 2 tests. My bad. Still is it fair to blame Coach/Captain now that he has failed in 6 of 7 innings. Link to comment
speedheat Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 None!! He himself to be blame, mental midget and choker its time to move on. Hanma vihari should get a chance. sandsaims, Frustrated and Adi BB 3 Link to comment
The Realist Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Had a couple of good years but has been mediocre the rest. time to move on and start blooding younger players Frustrated 1 Link to comment
Tibarn Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 The thing is it's not just Rahane. Vijay, Pujara, Rahul, Dhawan have all underwhelmed as well. Some people are just stuck on Rahane (for whatever reason). One factor in the overall deterioration of Indian batting has to be the types of pitches we play on at home. The kinds of turners we play on for home tests don't allow for ironing out of technical issues at home like they used to for our players. There are way too many minefields we play on at home over the last 5-6 years. Our spinners are making merry at home, but our batsmen lack the ability to get out of a rut at home now, it seems. This is true in Ranji trophy/domestic matches as well, when the push for "fast bowlers" encouraged the production of green tracks at some venues and allowed random trundlers pick up tons of wickets. One doesn't develop as a batsman on green mambas and minefields; skills are honed on more balanced pitches where there is something in it for both batsmen and bowlers. Link to comment
putrevus Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 26 minutes ago, Tibarn said: The thing is it's not just Rahane. Vijay, Pujara, Rahul, Dhawan have all underwhelmed as well. Some people are just stuck on Rahane (for whatever reason). One factor in the overall deterioration of Indian batting has to be the types of pitches we play on at home. The kinds of turners we play on for home tests don't allow for ironing out of technical issues at home like they used to for our players. There are way too many minefields we play on at home over the last 5-6 years. Our spinners are making merry at home, but our batsmen lack the ability to get out of a rut at home now, it seems. This is true in Ranji trophy/domestic matches as well, when the push for "fast bowlers" encouraged the production of green tracks at some venues and allowed random trundlers pick up tons of wickets. One doesn't develop as a batsman on green mambas and minefields; skills are honed on more balanced pitches where there is something in it for both batsmen and bowlers. I don't agree, any batsmen can get into bad form and have a bad series or two.Rahane for most part of his career e has one innings per series where he does well, rest of time he stinks.So now we know that was the best he could offer as a batsman. Pujara is showing, when you hit some runs as a batsmen you tend to carry that form to next match too. WC2011INDIA 1 Link to comment
ravishingravi Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 That was a great ball. I think some times you can get that. Link to comment
Tibarn Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: I don't agree, any batsmen can get into bad form and have a bad series or two.Rahane for most part of his career e has one innings per series where he does well, rest of time he stinks.So now we know that was the best he could offer as a batsman. Pujara is showing, when you hit some runs as a batsmen you tend to carry that form to next match too. I don't disagree with that, that is almost confirmed by his overall average of 41. Pujara is around 50, so it's apparent Pujara is overall more consistent of the two. However, I do think it is fair to say that our batting conditions at home don't allow our batsmen to regain or maintain form, like our conditions used to when the likes of Sachin/Dravid/VVS played. Just using Rahane as an example, his poor form almost always comes when we return to our minefields at home http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/277916.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting;view=innings Otherwise, as evidenced by his innings list, he is pretty consistent while batting away from home. Moochad 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 16 minutes ago, Tibarn said: I don't disagree with that, that is almost confirmed by his overall average of 41. Pujara is around 50, so it's apparent Pujara is overall more consistent of the two. However, I do think it is fair to say that our batting conditions at home don't allow our batsmen to regain or maintain form, like our conditions used to when the likes of Sachin/Dravid/VVS played. Just using Rahane as an example, his poor form almost always comes when we return to our minefields at home http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/277916.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting;view=innings Otherwise, as evidenced by his innings list, he is pretty consistent while batting away from home. Other than Australian series and SA series way back in 2015, India is playing on fairly good pitches at home. Problem with Rahane is he stinks against spin and is not wristy like other Indian batsmen. I have never rated Rahane high, he does not look like a class batsmen to me atleast.Pujara is showing only if one of these guys had shown some skill India was winning this match hands down. Link to comment
Tibarn Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: I have never rated Rahane high, he does not look like a class batsmen to me atleast.Pujara is showing only if one of these guys had shown some skill India was winning this match hands down. This is definitely a fair criticism. I am surprised at how poorly he as a Mumbai batsman plays spin. Although I haven't watched their Ranji matches, surely Mumbai coaching should have done something to fix the issue. 5 minutes ago, putrevus said: Other than Australian series and SA series way back in 2015, India is playing on fairly good pitches at home. Problem with Rahane is he stinks against spin and is not wristy like other Indian batsmen. I think there have been a fair amount of minefields, although I haven't went through series by series to check. It seems only top batsmen like ABD, Smith, Kane, Root can score, while the rest get out early. I think only Kohli and Pujara even average over 50 in India as of now. Moochad 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I don't rate this guy that high anyways,he is easily dispensable but he needs to be completely cut off from Lois like Pujara ,then may be he ll work harder on his game,vice captain lol firstly that needs to be changed Frustrated 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Tibarn said: One factor in the overall deterioration of Indian batting has to be the types of pitches we play on at home. The kinds of turners we play on for home tests don't allow for ironing out of technical issues at home like they used to for our players. There are way too many minefields we play on at home over the last 5-6 years. Our spinners are making merry at home, but our batsmen lack the ability to get out of a rut at home now, it seems. We have played on max 6 rank turners at home post 2011 WC. This rank turner nonsense is a figment of imagination, propounded by those who want to downplay our home dominance. Eng, SA, NZ have probably played on 6-7 green tops at home in the last 7 years, and that is a conservative estimate. Only Australian pitches have been consistently good for batting...suits their strength that way. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Rahane was averaging 12 or something before he was dropped for Rohit. I know that the problem Fans had was with the fact that Rohit was the replacement, Rahane was in terrible form prior to that. Since SA too,he has continued his poor form bar that one innings in 3rd test. He has himself to blame. Suhaan and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Rahane k paas das bahane hai But he himself has wasted so many opportunities, Vihari is not been sent their to serve drinks to Asstri, should be given a place straightway in 5 th test express bowling 1 Link to comment
Sgattick10 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 His is done, get vihari in his place for next test Link to comment
UrmiSinhaRay Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 33 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Rahane k paas das bahane hai But he himself has wasted so many opportunities, Vihari is not been sent their to serve drinks to Asstri, should be given a place straightway in 5 th test https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=%23&ved=2ahUKEwjpqIOV_ZfdAhWDfX0KHd01A9gQ8TUwAXoECAsQEQ&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov# Link to comment
kohli Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 22 minutes ago, Sgattick10 said: His is done, get vihari in his place for next test Why not karun nair Link to comment
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now