Frustrated Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Where is Shreyas Iyer ?? We need batsmen with good strike rate. Not just accumulators like Rayudu and Pandey. Iyer would hv been handy on the highway pitches of UAE. Switchblade and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Zero_Unit Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 6 hours ago, Straight Drive said: Glad the Asia cup will come to the rescue and erase the memories of the horrible past three months unless this Kohli-less team looses to Pakistan. Than its back to how you're feeling now. LOL UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Zero_Unit Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 hours ago, speedheat said: I see lot of posters picking both kooldip and chahal in the squad, both will perform against minnows like afghan and Bangladesh but will screw us against Pakistan. We just can't play two spinners against pak irrespective of conditions, last time we played with 2 spinners(darters) we ended up loosing ct, its better to go with 3 fast bowlers from the start, somebody like khaleel with leftarm pace and angel will be handy. I have a hard time believing that both BD and AFG will walk into the second round together, let alone one of them (espacially AFG) making it to the final. SriLanka does exist in this tournament too. For your theory to be correct, we have to face either BD/AFG in the second round and than face either BD/AFG in the final. Do you see that happening (espacially for AFG)? Flawed theory tbh. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
speedheat Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said: I have a hard time believing that both BD and AFG will walk into the second round together, let alone one of them (espacially AFG) making it to the final. SriLanka does exist in this tournament too. For your theory to be correct, we have to face either BD/AFG in the second round and than face either BD/AFG in the final. Do you see that happening (espacially for AFG)? Flawed theory tbh. Theory?? what theory? I just don't want them to repeat the same mistake like in ct assuming we meet Pakistan in final, SL,afgh or bd or whoever we face they are just not good enough against spin Pretty sure if we start with both kooldeep n chahal they ll do more than a descent job against them and eventually will be forced to play against pak if we meet them in the finals. Bigger fish here is Pakistan, we should plan things keeping them in mind proven fact that pace is their weakness and we shouldn't play 2 specialized spinners against them. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Rohit Dhawan .. .. Dhoni .. .. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Zero_Unit Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, speedheat said: Theory?? what theory? I just don't want them to repeat the same mistake like in ct assuming we meet Pakistan in final, SL,afgh or bd or whoever we face they are just not good enough against spin Pretty sure if we start with both kooldeep n chahal they ll do more than a descent job against them and eventually will be forced to play against pak if we meet them in the finals. Bigger fish here is Pakistan, we should plan things keeping them in mind proven fact that pace is their weakness and we shouldn't play 2 specialized spinners against them. IMHO Pak Bowling > IND Bowling. However they are getting too jumpy about their batting thrashing a week ZIM side. Our Batting > Pak Batting any given day. Should have rested Kohli for the 5th test and played him in asia cup. UrmiSinhaRay, Sgattick10 and Turning_track 1 2 Link to comment
speedheat Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 24 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said: IMHO Pak Bowling > IND Bowling. However they are getting too jumpy about their batting thrashing a week ZIM side. Our Batting > Pak Batting any given day. Should have rested Kohli for the 5th test and played him in asia cup. Agree. Zero_Unit and UrmiSinhaRay 2 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Play any bating, just can’t lose to Pak. I can’t take a defeat to Pak at this time after having lost in England and having just come out of big personal vacation and knowing I have to work without any vacation for the next two months. Link to comment
diehardpacer Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Dhawan,Rohit,Rahul,DK/Manish/Kedar,Dhoni,Pandya,Bhuvi,Kuldeep,Chahal,Bumrah,Khaleel Ahmed. Must play 5 proper bowlers. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I see lot of posters picking both kooldip and chahal in the squad, both will perform against minnows like afghan and Bangladesh but will screw us against Pakistan. We just can't play two spinners against pak irrespective of conditions, last time we played with 2 spinners(darters) we ended up loosing ct, its better to go with 3 fast bowlers from the start, somebody like khaleel with leftarm pace and angel will be handy. But with Pandya you would already have 3 seamers anyway. Dropping a spinner meaning playing with 4 seamers. Not sure if its a good idea in UAE. Also I have never seen this Khaleel guy bowl. Is he any good? You need to have variations, cutters etc in UAE conditions....only pace will get cartered there. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
speedheat Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said: But with Pandya you would already have 3 seamers anyway. Dropping a spinner meaning playing with 4 seamers. Not sure if its a good idea in UAE. Also I have never seen this Khaleel guy bowl. Is he any good? You need to have variations, cutters etc in UAE conditions....only pace will get cartered there. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Pandya I don't think so is proper 10 overs bowler tbh, he ll give you maximum 6-7 quality overs and pretty much uselss in death, reason I feel we need 6th bowler to cover it up somebody like krunal can do that job. Uae pitches are not that bad or unresponsive for fast bowlers with good pace especially during night time. Milne, henry,starc,Johnson did really well when they were in uae last time. Apparently khaleel is not just a pace and nothing bowler, he has got good variations, control and left arm angel as well, can bowl those under pressure yorkers at death. during his u19 WC days he used to bowl lot of cutters and slower balls but now that he has upped his pace he relys more on pace and direction. Here is a clip Khaleels 3-45 link Moreover I feel Babar,fakhar,Harris and sarfrz are good players of spin, so two spinners will be risky, i would drop one probably chahar. Edited September 4, 2018 by speedheat Sgattick10 and UrmiSinhaRay 2 Link to comment
motomaverick Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Momentum sucker Dhoni should not bat below number 4. But he definitely will. Rohit Dhawan Rahul Dhoni Pandey DK Pandya Bhuvi Kuldeep Bumrah Chahal/Khaleel This is the best we have. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 13 hours ago, diehardpacer said: Dhawan,Rohit,Rahul,DK/Manish/Kedar,Dhoni,Pandya,Bhuvi,Kuldeep,Chahal,Bumrah,Khaleel Ahmed. Must play 5 proper bowlers. Chahal is another pretender, he ll be belted like donkey and then he ll chew collar of everyone. Lannister, Sgattick10, speedheat and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Sgattick10 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Chahal is another mental midget will get carted against Pak. raki05, motomaverick, speedheat and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment
motomaverick Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 43 minutes ago, Sgattick10 said: Chahal is another mental midget will get carted against Pak. Can't bowl, can't bat, can't catch. Waste of space. Khaleel should be given a go over him. Sgattick10 1 Link to comment
motomaverick Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) This is what we should go with: Team for the match a day before the Pak match: Rohit Rayudu Pandey Dhoni Jadhav Karthik Axar Shardul Kuldeep Chahal Khaleel Team for the Pak match: Rohit Dhawan Rahul Dhoni Pandey Karthik Pandya Bhuvneshwar Kuldeep Bumrah Khaleel Pace heavy against the padosis, spin heavy against the minnows. Also rest the key players to keep them fresh for the Pak match. Edited September 4, 2018 by motomaverick Sgattick10 1 Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Sgattick10 said: Chahal is another mental midget will get carted against Pak. Agree. I would play Axar Patel in place of Chahal. The reason's below: A) In superb form this season in county cricket. B) Much better batsman than Chahal. C) Pak don't play left arm spin well (historically) D) Got a better smile at least (cant tolerate that smug in Chahal's face) raki05, UrmiSinhaRay and Sgattick10 2 1 Link to comment
Adi BB Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 3:16 PM, Straight Drive said: Glad the Asia cup will come to the rescue and erase the memories of the horrible past three months I think it'll be the opposite,after getting a thrashing from pak (maybe again in the final) ,it'll enhance those horrible memories . indian odi team is very much dependent on kohli and we have a horrible middle order which is likely to collapse against good attacks UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Adi BB Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 6:22 PM, Sgattick10 said: Why is everyone picking two spinners against sub continental teams? My 11 Rohit Dhawan Rahul Pandey Rayudu/jadhav ( no options left) Dhoni Pandya Shardul Kuldeep Khaleel Bumrah Pukeworthy middle order UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Adi BB Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) Khaleel should be tried .I'd go with bhuvi ,khaleel,bumrah ,kuly as the main bowlers if conditions are not so spin crazy Edited September 4, 2018 by Adi BB speedheat and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
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