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Talking like a true Loser!
 

 

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Hot selection, self belief, mental toughness, being aware. A Ravi Shastri press conference is usually brimming with headlines, and two days before the final India-England Test, it was no different.

 

 

The India coach did not hide his disappointment at his side not crossing the finish line in the ongoing series against England, but did jump to the team's defence by stating that there was no other Indian team that had won so often overseas in the last 15-20 years as the current had done. Those series in question came against Sri Lanka (twice) and West Indies - teams India were expected to beat anyway.

 

 

India did win those three series, apart from also winning one Test each in South Africa and England, but the worrying factor remains their non-wins in SENA countries. India's last series win in those countries came back in 2009 when they had defeated New Zealand 1-0 in a three-match series.

 

 

Under Virat Kohli, however, India have shown that they have become more competitive. They have run both South Africa and England close, but have failed to cross the finish line - something that has left Shastri with a headache.

 

 

Speaking at the press conference, Shastri laid out a number of things that seem to dog India when it came to seizing the initiative.

 

 

"I think you have got to get tough mentally," Shastri started. "We have run teams close overseas and we have competed. But now it's not about competing. We have to win games from here. Now the endeavour is to understand where you made the mistakes and take it head on and try to correct it. Fact of the matter is you had a chance.

 

 

"The scoreline says 3-1 which means India have lost the series, what the scoreline doesn't say that India could have been 3-1 or it could have been 2-2. And my team knows it. They would have hurt and rightly so after the last game. But this is a team that will not throw in the towel. It will come out there and look to compete and not be on the first flight home, and that's exactly what we will do."

 

 

Not surprisingly, the theme of the interaction with the press revolved around India's failure in crossing the proverbial line, in Edgabston and Southampton. Shastri picked a new chink that needed to be fixed every time. It showed not only India's struggle in closing out games, but also the number of factors that they needed to get right in order to do so.

 

 

"As far as crossing the line goes, you have to give credit to Moeen Ali there on the last day (in Southampton). To be honest, he bowled magnificently. As hard as our guys tried, England were one-up on us there. Nothing to take away (from them). The endeavour of this team is to travel well, compete and win. If you look at the last three years, we have won nine matches overseas and three series.

 

 

"I can't see any other Indian team in the last 15-20 years that has had the same run in such a short time, and you have had some great players playing in those series. So the promise is there, it is just about getting tougher mentally, you have got to hurt when you lose matches because that's when you look within and come out with the right kind of answers, to combat such situations and get past the finishing line. One day you will if you believe."

 

 

When asked again, Shastri said shot selection from his batsmen was a big let down, and said learning from that mistake will help India prosper.

 

 

"I think shot selection left a lot to be desired, we blew away a very good position straight away after Tea on day two (in Southampton). That's an area where you can tighten, be aware of what the team needs, being aware of the match situation, that will be a big help. I think that was crucial more than anything else.

 

 

"It's being aware of being in a good position and then capitalizing. And not doing something silly to open the door for the opposition, I thought at 180/4, there was a definite chance of a 75-80-run lead, and that would have been crucial. So that hurts."

 

 

At the Nets

 

 

As India chase a more respectable scoreline at the Kia Oval, the team looked like it might welcome a few changes. The pitch wore a dry, hard look and might be good for batting, with the spinners coming in later in the game. R Ashwin, India's big disappointment from the last game, did not bowl at all during the net sessions, instead spent time doing laps around the ground with strength and conditioning coach, Shankar Basu. Ravindra Jadeja, however, spent most of the time bowling at the batsmen, and even batted a bit towards the end.

 

 

The other mooted change - Prithvi Shaw for KL Rahul - looks unlikely, with Rahul batting ahead of the young right-hander and also coming back to bat again later in the day. Shaw just got one session, and had Shastri constantly egging him on from the side. The youngster then spent a while talking to the coach, who seemed to be speaking about Shaw's trigger back foot movement that had him in a tangle on more than a couple of occasions.

 

 

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1 minute ago, wanted_desi said:

Series is long gone, hope we get a reality check in last test match. I want to read scoreline 1-4. Would have loved 0-5 to get some changes made for next series. 

2-3 will be very dangerous for us as it would encourage the delusion of these clowns that they are the best but you can have 1-4 or 0-5 nothing changed previously back in 2011 to 2014 so expect things to remain the same.

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1 minute ago, rtmohanlal said:

this shame less parasite moron should be thrown out of the team for ever. Don't have the shame to sprout out blatant lies.

From 2000-2011 India drew 2 series in AUS(both could have been won with some luck), drew & won in ENG, won in NZL  and then drew in SAF,

Since he is the coach so he is trying to big up his team shamelessly and trying to downplay the teams of past.

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1 minute ago, rtmohanlal said:

this shame less parasite moron should be thrown out of the team for ever. Don't have the shame to sprout out blatant lies.

From 2000-2011 India drew 2 series in AUS(both could have been won with some luck), drew & won in ENG, won in NZL  and then drew in SAF,

Also won in West Indies. I think he is happy with beating Lanka and WI, those are minnows now. 

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9 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

I read that in Shastri's cocky voice, becomes more lolworthy

I can already see him after we destroy Windies at home Star anchor trying to interview hi  or congratulate him for home series win and he will be in his usual arrogant tone barking away screw England series that is a thing of past this is the real deal we won against a good Windies team don't be surprised.

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5 minutes ago, wanted_desi said:

Also won in West Indies. I think he is happy with beating Lanka and WI, those are minnows now. 

Is he talking about Test or ODI series as under Kumble we won in Windies under cheerleader we won in England 3-1 in 2014 LOI and in Lanka and T20 3-0 in Australia or South Africa series he might be bringing those stats here.

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8 minutes ago, Turning_track said:

Barring the fixers, has there been anyone more shameless in Indian cricket than Shastri?

Every one is yar they are thick skinned and besharam who ever is in the set up they take fans for a ride nothing else best thing stop giving them attention but we have emotional janta here who will worship them blindly.

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What a clown!!

Didn't this idiot said something like "we don't live in past we live in the present 2018, in 1936 I wasn't even born man" when asked about Don Bradman's record in a PC at Trent bridge?? Why is barking about past and the history now?

What an idiotic thing to say when you just lost a series 3-1 with a test to go.

The day when kumble was sacked and this leech was appointed as our coach wud go down as the darkest day in the history of Indian cricket even surpassing the fixing saga.

 

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4 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

Why can't someone who is taking the interview or in the press conference retort back saying but you've lost 2 important away series and 5 out of 7 test matches already this year.

 

Asking back questions will put these morons in their place. Our journos need to learn a lot.

They are allowed to ask only particular  questions 

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Was watching sports tak, Vikrant was talking about Rohit and how he deserved another chance :facepalm:luckily Madan Lal talked a little sense by advocating separate teams for ODIs and tests. And the imp to groom young test players. Vikrant also felt Shastri did this PC in response to Ganguly's taunts. 

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45 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

Why can't someone who is taking the interview or in the press conference retort back saying but you've lost 2 important away series and 5 out of 7 test matches already this year.

 

Asking back questions will put these morons in their place. Our journos need to learn a lot.

They don't want to sit out of PC next time. 

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2 hours ago, Sgattick10 said:

Was watching sports tak, Vikrant was talking about Rohit and how he deserved another chance :facepalm:luckily Madan Lal talked a little sense by advocating separate teams for ODIs and tests. And the imp to groom young test players. Vikrant also felt Shastri did this PC in response to Ganguly's taunts. 

Madan Lal said open with rohit sharma in Test cricket , he said make rohit bat at 3 in SA 

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9 hours ago, wanted_desi said:

Series is long gone, hope we get a reality check in last test match. I want to read scoreline 1-4. Would have loved 0-5 to get some changes made for next series. 

really...you want and you would love that.

 

are you a Pakistani ?

 

either support your team, or find a team to support, better yet.

 

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2 hours ago, Vilander said:

really...you want and you would love that.

 

are you a Pakistani ?

 

either support your team, or find a team to support, better yet.

 

Just looking ahead at Australian series. Getting rid of dead weights, and that series can be won.

This series was long gone, might as well get 1-4 out of it, that might help in longer run. Winning that dead rubber did more harm than good in South Africa. 

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2000-2010 was the golden period where we drew series in ZIM(was a decent  lower ranked team, not at all a  minnow) ,in AUS,in SAF,in SL, in ENG. Won series in ENG,PAK,NZL,WI(led by non other than Lara) , lost closely fought series in AUS,SAF(twice),PAK,SL(twice),WI (all of them just by 1 test margin). Never in the history of Indian cricket did our team performed such brilliantly abroad apart from that period.Yet this moron has the audacity to boast about this team's performance who has made merry by beating SL & lower ranked Wi.

Infact this shame less parasite    is insulting those great-very good players  like Sachin,Dravid,Sehwag,Laxman,Ganguly,Kumble,Harbhajan & Zaheer who formed the core of these performances. I wonder as to what they are doing despite coming across this fraud's chest thumping statements.They should all come out in the open & give a mouth ful each to this drunkard  so that he would be put in his place. They only can do that.Otherwise they too are contributing to the down fall of Indian cricket by remaining silent , there by allowing this shame less  parasite to go on extracting millions at the cost of  lot of ordinary game lover's  sadness.                                                            

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I have to ask Indian fans here is your coach serious? If he is India has already lost in Australia as well, we are at our lowest we have been and if India can't beat us here then India will be a laughing stock.

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12 hours ago, Sgattick10 said:

Was watching sports tak, Vikrant was talking about Rohit and how he deserved another chance :facepalm:luckily Madan Lal talked a little sense by advocating separate teams for ODIs and tests. And the imp to groom young test players. Vikrant also felt Shastri did this PC in response to Ganguly's taunts. 

Even madan lal want rohit as test opner.madan lal is confused,one time he saying test team different from odi and again want rohit

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9 hours ago, wanted_desi said:

Just looking ahead at Australian series. Getting rid of dead weights, and that series can be won.

This series was long gone, might as well get 1-4 out of it, that might help in longer run. Winning that dead rubber did more harm than good in South Africa. 

ok but its stupid to wish India loose games if you are an Indian fan. 

 

i find it only in ICF, very odd.

 

failures inspire winners, failures defeats only loosers, pretty sure the India team sees it that way - unlike section of fans in ICF.

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6 hours ago, Hydra said:

I have to ask Indian fans here is your coach serious? If he is India has already lost in Australia as well, we are at our lowest we have been and if India can't beat us here then India will be a laughing stock.

i will tell you who is laughing stock.

 

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1 hour ago, Vilander said:

ok but its stupid to wish India loose games if you are an Indian fan. 

 

i find it only in ICF, very odd.

 

failures inspire winners, failures defeats only loosers, pretty sure the India team sees it that way - unlike section of fans in ICF.

It comes to this:

 

Do you want your team to win meaningless dead rubber and keep things floating same way as it happened in South Africa or lose badly and get those changes made for example: hoping bewda getting fired, Dhawan never getting selected in test matches etc etc.

 

Just by winning a dead rubber doesn't make anyone winner. But, the team management thinks along with those lines. 

 

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43 minutes ago, wanted_desi said:

It comes to this:

 

Do you want your team to win meaningless dead rubber and keep things floating same way as it happened in South Africa or lose badly and get those changes made for example: hoping bewda getting fired, Dhawan never getting selected in test matches etc etc.

 

Just by winning a dead rubber doesn't make anyone winner. But, the team management thinks along with those lines. 

 

every test match is crucial. 

 

When oval match starts both Eng and Ind team will be competing to win as they were at start of series - may be more tired but they will want to win - if the loosing team comes back and says we were complacent its just an excuse and the other team will know it. 

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https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/you-don-t-decide-if-india-is-best-travelling-side-in-the-world-coa-tells-ravi-shastri-1384449-2018-11-08

 

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The Committee of Administrators (COA) came down hard on Ravi Shastri at a recent meeting in Hyderabad and asked the India coach to let people be the judge on whether this team is the best travelling side in the world or not.

Shastri capped a lot of criticism from cricket pundits after he labelled Virat Kohli's team as "India's best travelling side in the last 15 years" during the five-match Test series in England earlier this year which the visitors lost 3-1.

Taking note of what the former India all-rounder had said on the tour, the COA gave its own reply on the comments when they met with Shastri, captain Virat Kohli, Ajinkya Rahane and Rohit Sharma.
"Ravi initially started off by saying that the Indian media always criticises its own players and how this is one of the best ever teams in the last 15 years," an official present in the meeting told PTI.

"When Ravi went on about how great this current team is, one of the COA members just cut him short.

"The COA member told him, 'Let's stick to the agenda of the meeting and discuss Australia tour policies. You don't decide if the team is the best travelling side in the world. Let people be the judge'," the official said.

 

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