zen Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 Just now, rtmohanlal said: if we can find 5 batsmen who are better all round batsmen to Rahane(Kohli spared ofcourse) then I am in for dropping him. But not as of now. To avg: 50+ in 3 of SENA & almost 30 in ENG is a 'Dravid like' performance Hope that he lives up to your confidence. This season, coming in at #5 in SENA and among specialist batsmen, Rahane is only better than the openers: Batting | Bowling | Fielding | All-round | Partnership | Team | Umpire and referee | Aggregate/overall View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team England or South Africa Home or away away (home of opposition) Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jul 2017 Ordered by runs scored (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 19 of 19 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s V Kohli 7 14 0 830 153 59.28 1429 58.08 3 4 0 96 1 CA Pujara 6 12 1 341 132* 31.00 964 35.37 1 2 1 43 0 HH Pandya 7 14 1 283 93 21.76 461 61.38 0 2 2 42 2 AM Rahane 5 10 0 277 81 27.70 620 44.67 0 2 0 29 0 R Ashwin 6 12 2 216 38 21.60 321 67.28 0 0 0 33 1 S Dhawan 4 8 0 190 44 23.75 313 60.70 0 0 0 28 0 KL Rahul 6 12 0 143 36 11.91 274 52.18 0 0 2 24 0 M Vijay 5 10 0 128 46 12.80 434 29.49 0 0 2 15 0 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, zen said: Hope that he lives up to your confidence. This season, coming in at #5 in SENA and among specialist batsmen, Rahane is only better than the openers: Batting | Bowling | Fielding | All-round | Partnership | Team | Umpire and referee | Aggregate/overall View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team England or South Africa Home or away away (home of opposition) Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jul 2017 Ordered by runs scored (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 19 of 19 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s V Kohli 7 14 0 830 153 59.28 1429 58.08 3 4 0 96 1 CA Pujara 6 12 1 341 132* 31.00 964 35.37 1 2 1 43 0 HH Pandya 7 14 1 283 93 21.76 461 61.38 0 2 2 42 2 AM Rahane 5 10 0 277 81 27.70 620 44.67 0 2 0 29 0 R Ashwin 6 12 2 216 38 21.60 321 67.28 0 0 0 33 1 S Dhawan 4 8 0 190 44 23.75 313 60.70 0 0 0 28 0 KL Rahul 6 12 0 143 36 11.91 274 52.18 0 0 2 24 0 M Vijay 5 10 0 128 46 12.80 434 29.49 0 0 2 15 0 out of this, 8 inns are in ENG ,his nemesis country. Only 2 inns in SAF, where it was comparatively tougher & he was mismanaged that he was a bit lower than his normal self. Hope he continues in his normal self in the next matches Link to comment
Shunya Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 zen bhai...tame toh pandya na bhakt thayi gaya cho... so much of defending him in every thread... Link to comment
zen Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Shunya said: zen bhai...tame toh pandya na bhakt thayi gaya cho... so much of defending him in every thread... haha, I try to support promising youngsters esp. if they are getting the hate .... if a better option turns up, I will try to support that option What is the fun in defending an established player? There are usually no grey areas there Edited September 5, 2018 by zen Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 hours ago, rkt.india said: India at The Oval: Hanuma Vihari for Hardik Pandya, Ravindra Jadeja for R Ashwin? http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/24585973/are-india-looking-play-debutant-oval How is Dhawan saving his place ? Not a single 50+ knock in this series despite being a specialist batsman ! Even Rahul should be dropped ... and the only thing that goes in his favour is his slip catching in the last 2 tests, which is of immense importance. saik 1 Link to comment
Nikola Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Sometime stats don't tell what you see in match. Pandya has been useless and balance of side is not there because of him in both south africa and england tour. MCcricket, Stan AF and Khota 1 2 Link to comment
prasen82 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 15 hours ago, Nikola said: Sometime stats don't tell what you see in match. Pandya has been useless and balance of side is not there because of him in both south africa and england tour. I agree. With pandya down the order and the long tail that we have , could have been playing on the minds of our top order. Leave the openers aside, dhawan was not supposed to play, vijay lost his mojo and rahul lost his basics and will be out of team. Pandya lacks consistency. He is playing in spot 6 where laxman used to play and would shepherd the lower order. That is the primary role . Bowling is a plus . We need him to bowl tight to give rest for our Pacers. As folks pointed out he gets twice the chances and so stats look better than what he is . He inspires zero confidence. Rahane had two innings of substance . He was off form but he definitely is a great bat. With openers out of form, pandya being in the team upset the balance big time. We should have a good batsman who can bowl 10 overs and keep it tight. Any wickets from that part time bowler is bonus. Role definition for pandya is the problem here. With the current mix of players we have pandya unfortunately cannot be slotted in . Link to comment
Khota Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Now explain to me once again what is Pandya's role in the team? Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 17 hours ago, express bowling said: How is Dhawan saving his place ? Not a single 50+ knock in this series despite being a specialist batsman ! Even Rahul should be dropped ... and the only thing that goes in his favour is his slip catching in the last 2 tests, which is of immense importance. 2 50+ partnership in the one test we won. They have fared the same their Eng counterparts if not better. It is lower MO that is making the difference. Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 kohli can roll his arm, nair can. they are better off option than pandys. Khota 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: kohli can roll his arm, nair can. they are better off option than pandys. especially if the premise is to rest frontline bowlers. pandya has displayed lot of fight but he has no role. Link to comment
zen Posted September 6, 2018 Author Share Posted September 6, 2018 Ifs and buts of many fans: If 6th batsman were playing, the 5th bowler or all-rounder would have been better If 5th bowler were playing, the 6th batsman or all-rounder would have been better If the all-rounder were playing, the 6th batsman or the 5th bowler would have been better Extending it to players If Ashwin were playing, Jadeja would have been better If Jadeja were playing, Ashwin would have been better If Karthik were keeping, Pant would have been better If Pant were keeping, Karthik would have been better If Vijay were opening, Rahul would have been better If Rahul were opening, Vijay would have been better If Shami has an off-day, Yadav would have been better If Yadav is struggling, Shami would have been better and so on MCcricket and eternalhope 1 1 Link to comment
shortbread Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Pandya is not the finished product and it's unfair as the all-rounder tag holds a lot of responsibility. Pandya should find more discipline with his bowling and perhaps be able to adapt when the team needs him to bide time with the bat. Because if this continues as it is, he might simply be dropped forever! Link to comment
CG Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Selection Has been Terrible We Pick 5 bowlers on Seaming Tracks And 4 Blowers on Flat Tracks.Sent from my Nokia 7 plus using Tapatalk express bowling and Ankit_sharma03 1 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, CG said: Selection Has been Terrible We Pick 5 bowlers on Seaming Tracks And 4 Blowers on Flat Tracks. Amazing, isn't it ! Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Sorry Hardik Pandya, you didn't make to playing 11 this time. Hey on positive side, you can dig up some more stats. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Hardik deserves a spot in the India and India needs 6 batsmen. The Dark Horse 1 Link to comment
zen Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 Last game wasn’t a good one for Pandya so was due for a good one. Ind likely missed out on a good performance from him in this game .... Anyways not everyone can play every game Good to see Vihari though. But he could have easily played in place of one of the struggling batsmen - Dhawan, Rahul or Rahane Link to comment
zen Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 Since Pandya had a bad last game, he was due for a good performance now .... Ind Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Pandya hype train... Link to comment
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