Stradlater Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Interesting debate going on in the other thread with some good points raised by both the sides (apart from absolute drivel by Franco but we won't get to that). Which got me thinking(and this one is for the pro gay group) would you be fine if someone from your family let's say a son or a daughter come out to you as a homosexual? Would you be willing to support them through thick and thin in case that happens? Honestly I for one would be absolutely horrified. I have no issues with others being gay and welcome the decision of Supreme Court but dont think it would mean the same to me if the person is a close family member. Now I know I might come across as a big hypocrite here but honestly that's how it is for me and I'm sure for many Indians. What's your take on it @beetle @Sachinism @Nikhil_cric @Muloghonto @UrmiSinhaRay ICF's resident gay supporters? Also fence sitters like @coffee_rules and @rkt.india Tridibans_16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrmiSinhaRay Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 I will support him/her in every way but make sure s/he doesn't choose the wrong partner. I myself is bisexual but prefer women.Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk Stradlater, wanted_desi, Alam_dar and 5 others 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikhil_cric Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 @Stradlater My views on this are pretty consistent I suppose. If I become a parent in the near future I will definitely raise my son as a son should be and a daughter as a daughter should be until the age of 18. I personally don't believe in the "gender is a construct" feminist bullshit. If , on approaching adulthood, they turn out to be homosexual I would accept them just the same. They would be my children and I can love them no less no matter what they are. Tridibans_16, UrmiSinhaRay, beetle and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 As long as it is not my husband . No issues if my child is one. I think one close relation is. Hasn't come out yet . Will be the first one to support when that happens. UrmiSinhaRay, Tridibans_16, nikred and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranvir Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 It’s like inter racial or inter religious marriage, a lot of people may be ok with it but not when it is close to them. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, UrmiSinhaRay said: I will support him/her in every way but make sure s/he doesn't choose the wrong partner. I myself is bisexual but prefer women. Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk for any straight men , dating a bisexual women ( having her own partner ) is a bonanza UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 i am straight , and i dont see gay porn but lesbian porn is the one i like more Cricketics, Tridibans_16, Alam_dar and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) I am not a fence sitter, I will not support their victimization as being done by libs, but won't condone any acts of discrimination or persecution. As far as family is concerned, I will be horrified to think about it, but will always support them. Who can desert their own family, unless it is for any criminal act. I will not be a dhrithrasthra and accept adharma Edited September 8, 2018 by coffee_rules Nikhil_cric and Stradlater 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 Interesting. I suppose you guys have urban based families hence less chances of opposition in such circumstances. I on the other hand come from a rural background with most of my family living in the village. Even the idea of entertaining such thoughts is scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 48 minutes ago, velu said: i am straight , and i dont see gay porn but lesbian porn is the one i like more Who hates lesbian porn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrmiSinhaRay Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 for any straight men , dating a bisexual women ( having her own partner ) is a bonanza Then you can have a 3some with 2 beautiful ladies. Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 12 minutes ago, Stradlater said: Interesting. I suppose you guys have urban based families hence less chances of opposition in such circumstances. I on the other hand come from a rural background with most of my family living in the village. Even the idea of entertaining such thoughts is scary. But if it's tour own kin, why would you care that much about what your extended family thinks about them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 12 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: But if it's tour own kin, why would you care that much about what your extended family thinks about them? Not just the extended family but the closer ones too including parents and grandparents. It's harder for you to understand. Cultural differences I guess. We have a strict clannish tribal society in villages and such actions could lead to immediate backlash from the elders unless you don't give a **** anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said: Then you can have a 3some with 2 beautiful ladies. Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk Aren't you in a heterosexual marital relationship though? How hard is it? velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrmiSinhaRay Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Aren't you in a heterosexual marital relationship though? How hard is it?I'm a kid lolSent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 21 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said: I'm a kid lol Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk WTH lol. Thought you were a married aunty in her 40s like @beetle UrmiSinhaRay, The Dark Horse and tweaker 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, Stradlater said: WTH lol. Thought you were a married aunty in her 40s like @beetle Not yet there but close. UrmiSinhaRay, Stradlater, DHONI_FANN and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WC2011INDIA Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 7 hours ago, UrmiSinhaRay said: I'm a kid lol Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk @velu shattered. velu and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted_User_1 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, Stradlater said: Interesting debate going on in the other thread with some good points raised by both the sides (apart from absolute drivel by Franco but we won't get to that). Which got me thinking(and this one is for the pro gay group) would you be fine if someone from your family let's say a son or a daughter come out to you as a homosexual? Would you be willing to support them through thick and thin in case that happens? Honestly I for one would be absolutely horrified. I have no issues with others being gay and welcome the decision of Supreme Court but dont think it would mean the same to me if the person is a close family member. Now I know I might come across as a big hypocrite here but honestly that's how it is for me and I'm sure for many Indians. What's your take on it @beetle @Sachinism @Nikhil_cric @Muloghonto @UrmiSinhaRay ICF's resident gay supporters? Also fence sitters like @coffee_rules and @rkt.india There is nothing wrong with admitting your fears even if they might be wrong or misguided. After we are humans and all are prone to some weaknesses. I am not a racist, but if I see a big albeit innocent black dude in an alley who his minding his business, I will get nervous, because society has stereotyped the feeling in me and it is hard to shake it off. I think it also has to do with the society your are in. If you are in India, you will be more sensitive to what the society will say because homosexuality is not well accepted. However, if you are in a more progressive society like Western Europe or North America where usually people mind their own business and there is less gossip, you may be find it more easy to accept the fact. Here in the USA, there are lots of people who do not accept homosexuality and religious types think it is a sin. If you think of the whole animal kingdom, homosexuality is prevalent among lots of species. It may be an aberation from the standard man-woman relationship because a penis supposed to enter a vagina, but that is for procreation. It is the society's view that sex which can lead to procreation or any chance of procreation is the normal one. Because religion has dictated that for years. But why does it have to be that way? Sex can be for fun too. If that is true, then why is a man-man sex or a woman-woman sex abnormal? What is abnormal or normal is defined by society and mostly guided by archaic religious beliefs. This is the modern times. Things progress. Hundred years back, women did not have the right to vote, blacks were considered subhuman, etc. My view is if two consenting adults want to have a relationship that does not hurt anyone, why would I have any problem? I have several gay friends/colleagues and I see nothing different in them as I do in heterosexual ones. We all bleed the same blood, have the same problems. Edited September 9, 2018 by dandaroy Tridibans_16, Stradlater, wanted_desi and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 hour ago, dandaroy said: There is nothing wrong with admitting your fears even if they might be wrong or misguided. After we are humans and all are prone to some weaknesses. I am not a racist, but if I see a big albeit innocent black dude in an alley who his minding his business, I will get nervous, because society has stereotyped the feeling in me and it is hard to shake it off. I think it also has to do with the society your are in. If you are in India, you will be more sensitive to what the society will say because homosexuality is not well accepted. However, if you are in a more progressive society like Western Europe or North America where usually people mind their own business and there is less gossip, you may be find it more easy to accept the fact. Here in the USA, there are lots of people who do not accept homosexuality and religious types think it is a sin. If you think of the whole animal kingdom, homosexuality is prevalent among lots of species. It may be an aberation from the standard man-woman relationship because a penis supposed to enter a vagina, but that is for procreation. It is the society's view that sex which can lead to procreation or any chance of procreation is the normal one. Because religion has dictated that for years. But why does it have to be that way? Sex can be for fun too. If that is true, then why is a man-man sex or a woman-woman sex abnormal? What is abnormal or normal is defined by society and mostly guided by archaic religious beliefs. This is the modern times. Things progress. Hundred years back, women did not have the right to vote, blacks were considered subhuman, etc. My view is if two consenting adults want to have a relationship that does not hurt anyone, why would I have any problem? I have several gay friends/colleagues and I see nothing different in them as I do in heterosexual ones. We all bleed the same blood, have the same problems. @Tibarn and @Moochad Your opinions on this? Moochad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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