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Another series loss, another chatty Virat Kohli press conference

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“The Best Indian team in the last 15 years’. Do these tags put pressure on you? Do you actually believe you are?” A question dropped in like a punch at Virat Kohli. It was a reference to what the coach Ravi Shastri had said before the game that this Indian team was better than many other teams which “had great players”.

Kohli stared at the questioner and started off calmly, “We have to believe we are the best side. Why not?” The questioner threw in the second punch. “The best team in 15 years?” Kohli now seemed agitated but controlled it to throw in a counter-question: “What do you think” The reply was: “I am not sure.” And Kohli ended the terse chat with, “That’s your opinion. Thank you.”

This newspaper had reported that some players were a touch affected by the frequent chops and changes in the team and how some felt that there could be a better communication from the management. Kohli addressed it during the media interaction.

“We’ve had conversations around specific situations we were in and why they went away from us. A lot of time it’s been on missed opportunities. It’s literally one part of a session that we’ve given away and the whole Test match starts running away because the opposition senses it and they are more relentless about being on top. We have definitely spoken to individuals understand what they were thinking in certain situations. But of what happened on the field, why it took place and what was the thought process behind it, so that we can go totally into the root of the issue and try and correct it form there rather than just telling guys this was the cause and then you need to correct yourself. We have spoken to guys individually, yes.”

He also drew a reference to the past teams and how this band of men were different. “Lot of teams in the past basically have given up but we did not do so. Look we don’t think like people on the outside I have said before and again. And this kind of series shows you exactly the kind of character of individuals is and I see that as an opportunity and not adversity because if you keep winning all the time a lot of faults are swept under the carpet. And I don’t see any series like that, they haven’t been tough at all because of the kind of cricket we have played. I know people conveniently choose not to look at that but that’s not us.”

At the start of the fifth day, India stood a risk of being blown away. Had they done so, the conclusions drawn from the series could have been adverse. Kohli said that the team was aware of it and had spoken about how the performance on the final day could determine the future. “The one thing that we spoke about was how we react to the fifth day’s play is going to determine a lot of what happens in the future for all of us. It is very easy to surrender and say its too difficult or we might not be able to do this … I mean that partnership was something like a great show of character. Not many people will realize it but they look at it as (England) might not have been interested or might not have had motivation but that wasn’t the case clearly because they were going for the win.”

Beyond that, the issue of margin of defeat was asked to the captain. Are you disappointed that you have lost 1-4 to this England team which has been beset with its own problems? “To be honest we don’t see a massive-massive portion that we need to correct, because if you are competing in every game, and you have an upper hand in every game at some stage or the other, you are doing something right, we are not starting behind all the time you know, we have fought back in this series, England has had to fight back a few times, so they deserved to win because they played better than us, that is how we look at this series

“We do not look at this series as something that makes us think we can’t play in overseas conditions, of course we can play, but can we capitalise on the important moments better than the opposition? At the moment, no, we haven’t done that, but in future, we want to do that, and that is the only way we win series and our aim is to win series, not to win the odd Test match and be happy about it. We are definitely not happy about the way the series has gone, but the way we played cricket is something that, not me, no one in the change room, no one doubts even one per cent, because we played with the right attitude and the will to win every game that we played.”

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This is what happens when you live in delusions surrounded by Yes Men.India Sure were Unlucky with tosses and Fought Hard But Scoreline Does not Lie.India Lost out at crucial moments where Kohli Made mistakes like Not using Umesh against Curran in first test.Lack of planning for tail.Shocking Selections like Dropping Pujara and Playing Yadav at Lords.

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If the scoreline were 2-3 instead of 1-4, then Kohli's talk would have been justified. He is a soreloser and can't gracefully accept that his team sucked. He is lucky no one is asking him about his two choke jobs - 4th innings of the first and fourth matches. Ashwin got heavy criticism and rightfully so for his failure in the previous match. It is only fair that Kohli gets some criticism for going awol in the two innings where India had a reasonable chance to win and the match was on his bat.

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Also other important point if Virat feels practice matches don't have good opposition and conditions then fine you don't go for practice match but what he does is he stops his team players from playing practice matches too. He can just simply say i don't want but you can go he is just canceling practice matches on own. This is pathetic.

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1 hour ago, Nikola said:

Also other important point if Virat feels practice matches don't have good opposition and conditions then fine you don't go for practice match but what he does is he stops his team players from playing practice matches too. He can just simply say i don't want but you can go he is just canceling practice matches on own. This is pathetic.

Gavaskar said this though mildly yesterday.. kohli might not need practice, the opp team may not be good enough and not highly competetive but the practice of playing in actual match condition, running between wickets, taking slip catches, fielding the ball and throwing on the stumps, partnerships in the middle, bowling overs etc cannot be replicated in nets, that can only happen in practice matches. 

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23 minutes ago, Sgattick10 said:

Gavaskar said this though mildly yesterday.. kohli might not need practice, the opp team may not be good enough and not highly competetive but the practice of playing in actual match condition, running between wickets, taking slip catches, fielding the ball and throwing on the stumps, partnerships in the middle, bowling overs etc cannot be replicated in nets, that can only happen in practice matches. 

Surely kohli don't need this but others do need it and i am sure pujara rahane vijay and few more players need this practice matches to improve themselves. Kohli stopping this is really poor from him.

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14 hours ago, Switchblade said:

Despite the loss, Kohli said he saw enough progress in the side that gives him confidence that they will do well during their next big away tour, to Australia later this year.

 

 

Someone should ask this ghonchu how a 4-1 loss is progressing sign, compare to 3-1 which we had last time.

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the main concern is selection errors. persistent failure to choose the right XI. poor judgement in reviews, fielding positions, and selection. i want a Kohli IQ test.

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2 hours ago, goose said:

by the time they learn to win series it will be time to retire. rinse and repeat. 

They already know how to win series - but they suck in executing. 

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On 9/12/2018 at 3:43 PM, Sachinism said:

Feel for journalists having to deal with petulant man-childs

I don't know whether you read or or not, but a senior journalist GS Vivek was defending Kohli after his arrogant act in the PC and then many senior as well as young journalist flocked to reply and explain to him how his act could not and should not be defended!

Anyway, point is, even in the PC, Kohli refused to accept whatever the real issues were which became the main reason for India's defeat.

1. Number one issue was lack of lack of preparation for the red ball cricket before the test cricket. They had felt it as a major factor in SA tour, but didn't learn anything from it.

2 Faulty selections in almost every test: 1st test they needed Jadeja and Pujara in XI but as per Kohli's thought, to play aggressive cricket, he didn't need a person who scored slowly and another spinner. Result--narrow loss. Lords had a damp track and needed seamers, but Kohli went with extra spinner. Result--hammering. 4th test--Ashwin was not fully fit and Jadeja could have been chosen easily but no, result--series loss. 

3.His problem has been since SA series: Keeping proven performers in the bench or out of the squad and continuing with out of form players on reputation.

4.Instead of accepting, where they went wrong; the coach saying how he coaches the best Indian touring team in history and then losing a record 6 tests in a calendar year.

5.Saying YoYo scores are more important than runs or wickets.

When earlier team lost the series away, they had one handicap. They didn't have an attack that could take 20 wkts. Its not so with this team. Yet the results are the same. One entire series of 5 tests passed by but the coaches and tactitians could not give bowlers one solution of how to get the tail out.

What are the back room staffs for? Bowling coaches for, who Shastri thought was better than Zak?

And then Kohli expects not to be asked any hard questions?

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Arrogance over acceptance

For reasons not hard to explain, the focus has now shifted from Kohli, the run-machine, to Kohli the captain.

Express News Service

India’s inability to capitalise on England’s vulnerable top order and their own batting failures is now history, with a scoreline of 4-1 that will haunt Virat Kohli for a long time, given the pride he takes in his team’s performance. For reasons not hard to explain, the focus has now shifted from Kohli, the run-machine, to Kohli the captain.

Failure has its own price to pay and if the captain and his coach continue to live and speak the language of a runaway winner, then they are bound to face a barrage of uncomfortable questions from disappointed fans and a large number of cricketing experts. No one questioned coach Ravi Shastri’s claim before the series that this lot has the potential to be the best ever Indian team.

ARROGANCEa.jpgThe fans were willing to believe, even after failure in South Africa, that their team is potentially a rich side and can thrash England in their own backyard to stake a legitimate claim to being among the best. This assertion, after the conclusion of the series, is now a mere boast that should by now have embarrassed the proud owner of these words. But no, it appears the team still believes that they are the best ever in the last 15 years. The skipper even ticked off a journalist who merely wanted Kohli’s opinion on whether he still believes in what his coach had said.

Are these answers, that mock the person asking a genuine question, a sign of arrogance or the response of an immature mind getting carried away by his own personal achievements, and inexhaustible self-belief ? Kohli, if proof was needed, did show the world that his batting prowess is as special as anyone in the past or present may have possessed. But even this expression of greatness displayed against one of the greatest fast bowlers in the world — Jimmy Anderson — did not help India overcome its weaknesses. For a man whose very mobile face displays all the myriad emotions of someone impatient with any resistance coming his way, this collective failure must be galling.

It is good that he still retains faith in his team, but that faith would have a greater meaning if it acknowledged its weaknesses as well. And, if a team loses four of the five matches, the shortcomings have to be many. They need evaluation, a realistic self-appraisal and not childish responses that can create unnecessary divisions, within and outside.

 
 
 

There are many valid questions being raised that point at the failure of leadership. From team selection to strategic moves on the field, there are a host of issues to be assessed so that they are not repeated in similar situations. It would be unwise for Kohli to get so deluded by his own batting strength that he starts believing he can take no wrong decision as a captain. Captaincy is a difficult art that requires, among many other things, understanding of the men you lead and providing them the right environment to flourish. This is easier said than done.

The greatest danger to a person’s growth is to believe his privileges are the result of his inherent wisdom. Captaincy is a learning curve and being aware of one’s shortcomings, even hunting for them, can help in the curve going upwards. Kohli has by sheer hard work overcome many shortcomings as a batsman to become the phenomenon that he is. As a captain he has a world to conquer and a bit of humility and self-assessment can help. And may be he requires a coach, who in the best interest of the team, tells him not what he wants to hear but what he needs to listen.

 

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After two overseas series losses now these expert cricket writers are are raising these points but were these not obvious even when Kohli was winning at home or SL? Home series, he was helped by Kumble by Kohli was not at all good at field placement, bowling changes etc. Neither was he humble.

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