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7 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

@Ankit_sharma03 please keep us posted.

 

After the debacle in England, any hope?

 

With first match being against Hong Kong, Trigger movement must be at top level.

With our middle order we are screwed Baba RR of 6 will climb to 15 easily with him batting at the crease.

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6 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

@Ankit_sharma03 please keep us posted.

 

After the debacle in England, any hope?

 

With first match being against Hong Kong, Trigger movement must be at top level.

Did u make a thread when yuvraj singh made a huge change in hsi backlift post comeback ....he was still failing

Technique change doesnt mean a guarnteed results 

 

the way ur using that word, hmmmm seems like u dnt knw the meaning of it 

trigger moment batting gear nhin hota genius

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40 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Did u make a thread when yuvraj singh made a huge change in hsi backlift post comeback ....he was still failing

Technique change doesnt mean a guarnteed results 

 

the way ur using that word, hmmmm seems like u dnt knw the meaning of it 

trigger moment batting gear nhin hota genius

Well you seem to be the “expert” that notices these subtle changes. I am sure you will see such enhancements in technique especially against HK and maybe Srilanka. Keep educating us

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47 minutes ago, Switchblade said:

I have never seen him lose his cool but whatever I have seen of you and him you make him real angry or upset him @maniac is the coolest poster I have seen on icf man.

@Rasgulla this guy gets you. Time to retire on a high note :laugh: unlike your icon. 

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6 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

Well you seem to be the “expert” that notices these subtle changes. I am sure you will see such enhancements in technique especially against HK and maybe Srilanka. Keep educating us

Dhoni is finished Baba there is nothing left in him sadly he is treating Indian team as his personal playground wish he was dropped from the squad.

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8 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

Well you seem to be the “expert” that notices these subtle changes. I am sure you will see such enhancements in technique especially against HK and maybe Srilanka. Keep educating us

didnt u it was so evident

 

Here is an article on that to

 

 

Battling time, Dhoni attempts a technique tweak

 

MS Dhoni is raging against the dying sun; it shows in the technical changes he has made to his batting. He has, by his own admission, not been the most technically correct batsman around. In his prime, he has relied on finding a way out in the middle as opposed to fiddling with his technique, but now with pressure mounting on him and with bowlers fancying bowling to him in pressure moments, Dhoni has been looking to work on his technique. In the series where he is set to become only the 20th cricketer to reach 300 ODI caps, Dhoni has quietly done two things, arguably for the first time in his career: shuffle back and across and thus introduce a trigger movement, and give up his favourite Morrant pads in favour of more commonly used ones.

It is curious that Dhoni, at this stage of his career, would move from pads that are almost idiosyncratic. Only a few batsmen in the world use Morrant pads. Sachin Tendulkar, Virender Sehwag and Sourav Ganguly did. As do Dhoni and R Ashwin. The best way to tell between Morrant pads and the regular ones is the straps on the back: Morrants have two, others three. These pads are lighter by at least 200 grams, which makes the move even more curious because conventionally you want your pads to be lighter as you grow older.

Former India batsman Aakash Chopra feels the likeliest reason for the switch could be to allow him to bend his front knee properly. If there is a minor drawback in Morrants, it is that they don't allow free flexion of the front knee. Because there are just two straps, the higher strap is almost right behind the knee. During the Indian Premier League, Dhoni did spend time working on a more balanced knee flexion. Many a session went with just him and Rising Pune Supergiant analyst A Prasanna recording his batting in the nets and then discussing it. He has been working on balance in the stance and his bat swing.

This change of pads could be a continuation of that or an altogether new attempt at getting his front knee to bend properly when facing spinners. It is worth noting that Dhoni has struggled to take singles in the middle overs of ODIs, which is when spinners usually operate.

The trigger movement - first the back foot goes from leg to off, then the front foot follows, all before the bowler has released the ball - is remarkable because Dhoni has been one of the rare batsmen who don't blink before the bowler. For a majority of his career, just like Sehwag, Dhoni has remained absolutely still and reacted only after the bowler has delivered. There are times when the ball is swinging or seaming and Dhoni starts to walk at the bowler, but that he does to upset the bowler's rhythm, in particular to keep them from bowling full and attaining that movement. This shuffle seems more of a permanent move.

Chopra says batsmen are taught to incorporate some trigger movement when they find the bowling to be extra quick. Tendulkar initially didn't have a trigger movement, but introduced a forward press later on in his career. "This helps your body to get in motion," Chopra says. "Once you have got some movement going before the ball is bowled, you get your body set to react."

 
Chopra does argue against the theory because you are supposed to be still and stable when the ball is delivered. So, in theory, this trigger movement shouldn't make a difference, but perhaps mentally it does because this is a conventionally accepted method to face high pace: make half a movement before the ball is bowled because you won't get time afterwards. This could also be an attempt to get inside the line to balls aimed at his rib cage so that he can hit square on the leg side. At his best, Dhoni used to slog these balls to cow corner and midwicket. Over the last two-three years, this is the ball he has struggled against.

It will be tempting to see his two valuable knocks - 45 not out and 67 not out in the second and third ODIs - in relation to these changes, but these innings haven't tested Dhoni on the two fronts that he has been struggling on: strike rotation in the middle overs and explosive hitting in the end. As of now, these changes could be a realisation and acknowledgement that he is getting late on the ball. That he is comfortable wearing heavier pads only reiterates that fitness is not an issue with Dhoni. Most of all, it is an acknowledgement that Dhoni is in a fight. Against time.

 

Link - http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/20506764/battling-ms-dhoni-attempts-technique-tweak

 

 

 

Advice- Stop wasting times with dots and making new fake IDs.....ull notice changes and even subtle ones to 

 

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1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

didnt u it was so evident

 

Here is an article on that to

 

 

Battling time, Dhoni attempts a technique tweak

 

MS Dhoni is raging against the dying sun; it shows in the technical changes he has made to his batting. He has, by his own admission, not been the most technically correct batsman around. In his prime, he has relied on finding a way out in the middle as opposed to fiddling with his technique, but now with pressure mounting on him and with bowlers fancying bowling to him in pressure moments, Dhoni has been looking to work on his technique. In the series where he is set to become only the 20th cricketer to reach 300 ODI caps, Dhoni has quietly done two things, arguably for the first time in his career: shuffle back and across and thus introduce a trigger movement, and give up his favourite Morrant pads in favour of more commonly used ones.

It is curious that Dhoni, at this stage of his career, would move from pads that are almost idiosyncratic. Only a few batsmen in the world use Morrant pads. Sachin Tendulkar, Virender Sehwag and Sourav Ganguly did. As do Dhoni and R Ashwin. The best way to tell between Morrant pads and the regular ones is the straps on the back: Morrants have two, others three. These pads are lighter by at least 200 grams, which makes the move even more curious because conventionally you want your pads to be lighter as you grow older.

Former India batsman Aakash Chopra feels the likeliest reason for the switch could be to allow him to bend his front knee properly. If there is a minor drawback in Morrants, it is that they don't allow free flexion of the front knee. Because there are just two straps, the higher strap is almost right behind the knee. During the Indian Premier League, Dhoni did spend time working on a more balanced knee flexion. Many a session went with just him and Rising Pune Supergiant analyst A Prasanna recording his batting in the nets and then discussing it. He has been working on balance in the stance and his bat swing.

This change of pads could be a continuation of that or an altogether new attempt at getting his front knee to bend properly when facing spinners. It is worth noting that Dhoni has struggled to take singles in the middle overs of ODIs, which is when spinners usually operate.

The trigger movement - first the back foot goes from leg to off, then the front foot follows, all before the bowler has released the ball - is remarkable because Dhoni has been one of the rare batsmen who don't blink before the bowler. For a majority of his career, just like Sehwag, Dhoni has remained absolutely still and reacted only after the bowler has delivered. There are times when the ball is swinging or seaming and Dhoni starts to walk at the bowler, but that he does to upset the bowler's rhythm, in particular to keep them from bowling full and attaining that movement. This shuffle seems more of a permanent move.

Chopra says batsmen are taught to incorporate some trigger movement when they find the bowling to be extra quick. Tendulkar initially didn't have a trigger movement, but introduced a forward press later on in his career. "This helps your body to get in motion," Chopra says. "Once you have got some movement going before the ball is bowled, you get your body set to react."

 
Chopra does argue against the theory because you are supposed to be still and stable when the ball is delivered. So, in theory, this trigger movement shouldn't make a difference, but perhaps mentally it does because this is a conventionally accepted method to face high pace: make half a movement before the ball is bowled because you won't get time afterwards. This could also be an attempt to get inside the line to balls aimed at his rib cage so that he can hit square on the leg side. At his best, Dhoni used to slog these balls to cow corner and midwicket. Over the last two-three years, this is the ball he has struggled against.

It will be tempting to see his two valuable knocks - 45 not out and 67 not out in the second and third ODIs - in relation to these changes, but these innings haven't tested Dhoni on the two fronts that he has been struggling on: strike rotation in the middle overs and explosive hitting in the end. As of now, these changes could be a realisation and acknowledgement that he is getting late on the ball. That he is comfortable wearing heavier pads only reiterates that fitness is not an issue with Dhoni. Most of all, it is an acknowledgement that Dhoni is in a fight. Against time.

 

Link - http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/20506764/battling-ms-dhoni-attempts-technique-tweak

 

 

 

Advice- Stop wasting times with dots and making new fake IDs.....ull notice changes and even subtle ones to 

 

It says Dhoni “attempts” lol. 

 

Onky tweak is saw is he even gave up on trying along with his now non-existent ability

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4 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

It says Dhoni “attempts” lol. 

 

Onky tweak is saw is he even gave up on trying along with his now non-existent ability

Watch the games their has been a change...if u cnt notice. Long way to go my frend ......

Perhaps u will notice if he becomes a left hander

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7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Watch the games their has been a change...if u cnt notice. Long way to go my frend ......

Perhaps u will notice if he becomes a left hander

Can you show me video evidence of this. I still see lunging and failure to rotate strike getting worse by the day. So excuse me for failing to notice the tweak in teigger movement before the same old lunge lol

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3 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

Can you show me video evidence of this. I still see lunging and failure to rotate strike getting worse by the day. So excuse me for failing to notice the tweak in teigger movement before the same old lunge lol

Ok so notice

Before

 

After- first the back foot goes from leg to off, then the front foot follows

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

So wait I am confused . Are you telling me he tweaked his technique to become even worse than before?

No he tweeked his etchnique to be a lil quicker on the ball

N no one is baba like u who ll do something knwing his future, m sure had u been his place u wud have predicted ....but real world doesnt work like that . A change doesnt mean success

 

Yuvraj did it and it made it worse

Many bowlers change their action thinking it ll help them and it misfires a lot of time

 

Watch games, these changes are part of all cricketers doesnt mean it works for everyone 

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47 minutes ago, Switchblade said:

Have always seen you lose your cool with him you have been the coolest one here as a poster bro.

 

46 minutes ago, Switchblade said:

Come back with your original id bhai only you know why you don't use it though say my hello to @sage wanted to apologize to him for bashing Rohit :p:.

He is a coward who is hiding behind his second account. He is so ashamed of that first account that he threatened to leave ICF and came back day later with Multi:hysterical:

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13 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

No he tweeked his etchnique to be a lil quicker on the ball

N no one is baba like u who ll do something knwing his future, m sure had u been his place u wud have predicted ....but real world doesnt work like that . A change doesnt mean success

 

Yuvraj did it and it made it worse

Many bowlers change their action thinking it ll help them and it misfires a lot of time

 

Watch games, these changes are part of all cricketers doesnt mean it works for everyone 

I am not starting a controversy but you always maintained that coaching at that level does not help. It is all man management. What gives?

 

Personally I think he is doing right thing by tweaking his game but there are many better options for Indian cricket than him at present.

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14 hours ago, Global.Baba said:

I have no idea what you are talking about lol but OK I guess. 

 

If you are saying I am the only guy irritated by this bot Rasgulla then we might be neighbors. Are you under the rock next to me?

:hysterical:: Savage!!

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 Rohit Sharma (captain), MS Dhoni, Ambati Rayudu, Manish Pandey, Kedar Jadhav, Kuldeep Yadav, Yuzvendra Chahal, Axar Patel, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, and Khaleel Ahmed will leave for Dubai on September 13.

 

ON THE OTHER HAND, THE REMAINING SIX — SHIKHAR DHAWAN, KL RAHUL, HARDIK PANDYA, DINESH KARTHIK JASPRIT BUMRAH AND SHARDUL THAKUR – WILL LEAVE ON SEPTEMBER 16, THE ORIGINAL DATE OF THE TEAM’S DEPARTURE.

The Test cricketers, who are a part of the Asia Cup will return to India on September 13. They will spend two days with their family before flying to UAE.

https://sportzwiki.com/cricket/asia-cup-2018-team-india-to-leave-for-dubai-in-two-batches/

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4 minutes ago, Switchblade said:

 Rohit Sharma (captain), MS Dhoni, Ambati Rayudu, Manish Pandey, Kedar Jadhav, Kuldeep Yadav, Yuzvendra Chahal, Axar Patel, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, and Khaleel Ahmed will leave for Dubai on September 13.

 

ON THE OTHER HAND, THE REMAINING SIX — SHIKHAR DHAWAN, KL RAHUL, HARDIK PANDYA, DINESH KARTHIK JASPRIT BUMRAH AND SHARDUL THAKUR – WILL LEAVE ON SEPTEMBER 16, THE ORIGINAL DATE OF THE TEAM’S DEPARTURE.

The Test cricketers, who are a part of the Asia Cup will return to India on September 13. They will spend two days with their family before flying to UAE.

https://sportzwiki.com/cricket/asia-cup-2018-team-india-to-leave-for-dubai-in-two-batches/

Good those who were not part of test squad are leaving early so they can practice more. For odis it's good but we needed for test matches. BTW whose idea it was to leave early? if shastri then he hopefully he learned in end.

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15 hours ago, Switchblade said:

Have always seen you lose your cool with him you have been the coolest one here as a poster bro.

Beetle informed us in grievance thread that there used to be icf awards in the past. Man!! If ever she or anyone starts it again then I would like to proffer you the most intelligent poster of the icf award  for your understanding of bot  @Rasgullas non stop gibberish in coded terms :hatsoff:

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1 minute ago, speedheat said:

Beetle informed us in grievance thread that there used to be icf awards in the past. Man!! If ever she or anyone starts it again then I would like to proffer you the most intelligent poster of the icf award  for your understanding of bot  @Rasgullas non stop gibberish in coded terms :hatsoff:

Had not been here for 2-3 years so no idea why or how this feud started between all of you and Rasgulla or whether he really hates Sachin or trolls people.Maniac was there and I remember some of us getting angry at Rohit but he handed it in a cool manner it’s only for Rasgulla have seen him getting irritated.

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13 minutes ago, Nikola said:

Good those who were not part of test squad are leaving early so they can practice more. For odis it's good but we needed for test matches. BTW whose idea it was to leave early? if shastri then he hopefully he learned in end.

No idea if it’s him or the selectors he will be submitting his report on the England tour though so might be the reason he will go to Dubai on 16th.

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16 hours ago, Rasgulla said:

 

He is a coward who is hiding behind his second account. He is so ashamed of that first account that he threatened to leave ICF and came back day later with Multi:hysterical:

:rofl: You have really rattled him it seems...

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2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Yea but he changed this own his own like many playerd do 

Where did coaching vs man management came?

 

You. I dont have the time and energy to find the post but you always mentioned at that level it is not abt coaching but man management.

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42 minutes ago, Khota said:

You. I dont have the time and energy to find the post but you always mentioned at that level it is not abt coaching but man management.

yea i said that 

but where in this post does that point come 

Dhoni ke technical tweek men man management kaha se aa gya , techincal adjusment sab player krte hai 

 

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