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This team won't even draw a SENA series for next 10 years

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This cycle is done.

 

Players at peak losing all matches in their 2nd or 3rd outing. All in their late 20s and early 30s.

 

Next cycle will be 4 years later. That time either players will old (34-37 years) or completely new (20s first outing).

 

Hope for some face saving after that.

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Australia will be very tough. Their bowling attack is just too lethal in Australian conditions.

 

NZ test your is too short. 2 test matches. BCCI won't even bother with warm up for such a short unprofitable tour. India will be uncooked against a very sharp Kiwi side.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Laaloo said:

We will make tim Paine the next Bradman.

Aisa kuchh nahin hoga. If they prepare roads we'd easily out-bat them with Kohli/KL/Rahane piling on the runs. If they make spicy wickets their phateechar batting line up will be toast. Fully expect us to win as long as there are no major injury scares for us.

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10 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Aisa kuchh nahin hoga. If they prepare roads we'd easily out-bat them with Kohli/KL/Rahane piling on the runs. If they make spicy wickets their phateechar batting line up will be toast. Fully expect us to win as long as there are no major injury scares for us.

Expect pujara and pant to do well too. Bounce is not an issue and indian bowlers are up to the task this time. 

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6 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Expect pujara and pant to do well too. Bounce is not an issue and indian bowlers are up to the task this time. 

I am a fan of Pujara but he just doesn't have an attacking game off the back foot against the pacers so don't think he'd be all that prolific. In fact, I wouldn't mind if we play Rahane at 3 with Pujara at 5. Pant could do well yes.

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4 minutes ago, SecondSlip said:

Under cheerleader’s coaching? Forget it :hysterical:

No inspite of it. Agreed Aus bowlers are quicker but not by much and they wont have cushion of runs that Smith ususally provides this tine around. And indian bowlers will challenge their batsmen. I would expect a well contested series but one where India win more matches.

 

India lost 1 test by 30 runs missed a draw in last half hour lost a test by 60 runs with atrotious selection and bhuv and bumrah missing for most part.  This should easily have been a 3-2 loss or 2-2 draw or even a 2-3 win..

 

Aus tour will be won this time.

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5 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

I am a fan of Pujara but he just doesn't have an attacking game off the back foot against the pacers so don't think he'd be all that prolific. In fact, I wouldn't mind if we play Rahane at 3 with Pujara at 5. Pant could do well yes.

Pujara i am expecting ocupation of crease. Too bad vijay fell off in the way side.. They need to find an opener to partner KL..we will see what shaw does in WI tour.

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2 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

This cycle is done.

 

Players at peak losing all matches in their 2nd or 3rd outing. All in their late 20s and early 30s.

 

Next cycle will be 4 years later. That time either players will old (34-37 years) or completely new (20s first outing).

 

Hope for some face saving after that.

Not quite. Of course selections play a role as well. If we select mediocrity then we deserve to fail. But in between the T20's and tests , we should get 1 4 day game. Australian batting without Smith and Warner is exceptionally weak even at home. They just don't have the batsmen to put us under scoreboard pressure. And lastly, hopefully we will have some luck and not lose all the tosses. If these things go our way, then we will atleast draw if not win in Australia.  

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8 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Aisa kuchh nahin hoga. If they prepare roads we'd easily out-bat them with Kohli/KL/Rahane piling on the runs. If they make spicy wickets their phateechar batting line up will be toast. Fully expect us to win as long as there are no major injury scares for us.

We need a game changer like Rohit Sharma and he loves the bounce. :nice:

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13 hours ago, Adi BB said:

This team is expert in losing matches and their maximum limit of winning in SENA is 1 test per series and that is primarily due to bowlers ,so you do the math and answer is just play 3 match series !!

Exactly. They contrive to lose matches from winning positions and can probably count on one hand the number of times Ind have won two games in an overseas series. 

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16 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

This cycle is done.

 

Players at peak losing all matches in their 2nd or 3rd outing. All in their late 20s and early 30s.

 

Next cycle will be 4 years later. That time either players will old (34-37 years) or completely new (20s first outing).

 

Hope for some face saving after that.

 

As far as I know, we will play 1 SENA test series per year from now on. 

 

This is good ...  won't allow HTBs to get a long successful run  ... batsmen will not forget playing in pace friendly conditions.

 

 

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7 hours ago, The Realist said:

Exactly. They contrive to lose matches from winning positions and can probably count on one hand the number of times Ind have won two games in an overseas series. 

The 1986 series in England was the last such instance in SENA. Prior to that, probably under Ajit Wadekar in the early 70s. And that's it, don't think there has been more than one win in SENA on any other tour. Pathetic for a country that lives and breathes cricket.

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On 9/12/2018 at 7:39 AM, GolGappe said:

Australia will be very tough. Their bowling attack is just too lethal in Australian conditions.

 

NZ test your is too short. 2 test matches. BCCI won't even bother with warm up for such a short unprofitable tour. India will be uncooked against a very sharp Kiwi side.

 

 

BCCI doesn't get any profit from tours.

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The 1986 series in England was the last such instance in SENA. Prior to that, probably under Ajit Wadekar in the early 70s. And that's it, don't think there has been more than one win in SENA on any other tour. Pathetic for a country that lives and breathes cricket.


The country doesn't live Or breath test cricket . So that's a moot point.

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30 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:


 

 


The country doesn't live Or breath test cricket . So that's a moot point.

 

I think those days are gone when youths would bunk college to watch  cricket matches or take leave from work for watching cricket match. The fixing was big let down and lot of people lost interest gradually. With these one dimensional results based upon conditions as we have seen recently, more people have lost faith in this team. No test match greats like Rahul Dravid, Sehwag, Sachin, VVS as well. 

 

 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

I think those days are gone when youths would bunk college to watch  cricket matches or take leave from work for watching cricket match. The fixing was big let down and lot of people lost interest gradually. With these one dimensional results based upon conditions as we have seen recently, more people have lost faith in this team. No test match greats like Rahul Dravid, Sehwag, Sachin, VVS as well. 

 

 

 

 

Indians were never interested in test cricket. They never bunked to watch test cricket and we lost even with those greats. So it does not matter.

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I think we can draw Aus series only because their batting is in disarray. If somehow we learn some lessons from Eng tour and make amends by winning there, smug coach will organize a party at the International Space Station and will post another stupid promotion for a sports drink from there.

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23 hours ago, Adi BB said:

This team is expert in losing matches and their maximum limit of winning in SENA is 1 test per series and that is primarily due to bowlers ,so you do the math and answer is just play 3 match series !!

No. Play 2 match test series and draw all overseas series. 

 

But our ill luck is that we win only the 3rd match so 2 match series will result in whitewashes everywhere. 

 

So u r right. 

 

3 test match series. 

 

Win last test. 

 

Chest thump. 

 

Fly off to play next overseas series. 

Edited by sensible-indian

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1 hour ago, Clarke said:

I think we can draw Aus series only because their batting is in disarray. If somehow we learn some lessons from Eng tour and make amends by winning there, smug coach will organize a party at the International Space Station and will post another stupid promotion for a sports drink from there.

Good for us that Australia will be without Warner and Steven Smith in their home conditions. Still Team India may goof up to exploit this advantage.

 

 

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On 9/12/2018 at 10:08 AM, Adi BB said:

This team is expert in losing matches and their maximum limit of winning in SENA is 1 test per series and that is primarily due to bowlers ,so you do the math and answer is just play 3 match series !!

2007 was the last series that we won in England.After that the 3 test tours to England have been lost. Worst that they came to India in 2011 and even beat us.

We need some great test batsmen, but we have just 1.The replacements of FAB4 are duplicates like China material. Struggling to even average 45 in career.

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They think their idiotic selections will work in Test cricket just like it works in LOIs. But the problem is you will be playing against a team with a professional setup and they are not going to make same mistakes with their team. We are losing the matches even before they start. That's the problem with this team. 

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I think those days are gone when youths would bunk college to watch  cricket matches or take leave from work for watching cricket match. The fixing was big let down and lot of people lost interest gradually. With these one dimensional results based upon conditions as we have seen recently, more people have lost faith in this team. No test match greats like Rahul Dravid, Sehwag, Sachin, VVS as well. 
 
 
 
 


Test Cricket had craze even late into my childhood.
I think only after Sachin and somewhat Dhoni's retirement , the interest has died. .

TBF, post WC11-cricket doesn't really have an universal hype all around like it was before during Peak Sachin

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On 9/12/2018 at 2:55 AM, Trichromatic said:

This cycle is done.

 

Players at peak losing all matches in their 2nd or 3rd outing. All in their late 20s and early 30s.

 

Next cycle will be 4 years later. That time either players will old (34-37 years) or completely new (20s first outing).

 

Hope for some face saving after that.

There are no more home and away "cycles". Under the ICC Test Championship programme, we will tour NZ in Feb 2020 for 2 tests, and Australia again in December 2020 for 4 tests. Basically we will be touring Australia twice in a span of 2 years. 

 

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/742337

Schedule link: https://pulse-static-files.s3.amazonaws.com/ICC/document/2018/06/20/6dc2c8d4-e1a5-4dec-94b4-7121fab3cd7f/ICC_Tours.pdf

 

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