rkt.india Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Quote James Anderson, who surpassed Glenn McGrath's tally of 563 Test wickets at The Oval to become the most prolific seamer in Tests, has rated the Australian as a "much better bowler" than himself. "I'll tell you something about Glenn McGrath - he was a much better bowler than me. This is not false modesty," Anderson wrote in a column on Fox Sports. Anderson attributed McGrath's superiority to various factors that he felt made the Australian a complete bowler. "I may have gone past his wicket tally but I honestly believe McGrath's bounce, relentless accuracy, aggression and ability to move the ball made him superior. He had everything. And it is not a random, top-of-the-head assessment, either. I've been studying all of the great fast bowlers since I was about eight years old." While the top two wicket-takers among seamers have tormented batsmen with different skill sets, Anderson drew similarities between his attitude and McGrath's. "I also loved McGrath's attitude," Anderson said. "He had plenty of a snarl on the field - a bit like me, I suppose - and was super-competitive. He hated giving away runs or not taking wickets." Describing McGrath as a "cracking fellow" with whom he had shared the occasional beer, Anderson said listening to the Australian talk about the way he prepared for games had helped him. One of McGrath's training methods that Anderson incorporated into his own preparations was bowling with an old ball, in order to equip himself to be able to succeed in unfavourable conditions. "I heard him say once that he practised for when the ball didn't swing," Anderson said. "So if it did swing, it was a bonus. That philosophy has been a big part of my development. You so often see bowlers pick out a lovely new ball from the bag at nets and it looks great when it swings in the air and nips off the seam with batsmen playing and missing. What about when the ball is 60 overs old, the sun is blazing down, the pitch is flat and there's not a hint of movement? So, at practice, I often take an old ball that looks like it's been chewed by a dog and work on variations and aiming for the top of off stump. That's the quickest way to improve your skills." http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/24660458/glenn-mcgrath-dale-steyn-better-bowlers-james-anderson MCcricket, velu, Vilander and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
Lala Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Anderson is better than them, when there are clouds velu 1 Link to comment
Temujin Khaghan Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Lala said: Anderson is better than them, when there are clouds Even your Asif is more quality than clouderson... but unfortunately Asif self destructed his fledgling career. UrmiSinhaRay, velu and MCcricket 1 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, Temujin Khaghan said: Even your Asif is more quality than clouderson... but unfortunately Asif self destructed his fledgling career. How? Asif was also a GTB. Link to comment
Nikola Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, rkt.india said: How? Asif was also a GTB. Asif was surely better than Anderson in all conditions. He used to get movement on many pitches but he destroyed his carrier on own so can't blame anyone else. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, Nikola said: Asif was surely better than Anderson in all conditions. He used to get movement on many pitches but he destroyed his carrier on own so can't blame anyone else. Asif was not better than the post 2010 version of Jimmy. Asif was good when there was swing on offer and absolutely deadly on green pitches, wearing pitches etc. But on flat tracks he struggled. His record in Australia, UAE and Pakistan shows that. Adi BB 1 Link to comment
CoverDrive Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Anderson is Mahela Jayawardene of bowling express bowling, Vilander, Mass and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 54 minutes ago, Nikola said: Asif was surely better than Anderson in all conditions. He used to get movement on many pitches but he destroyed his carrier on own so can't blame anyone else. Asif rarely played on flat pitches. It was such a short career. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 42 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: Asif was not better than the post 2010 version of Jimmy. Asif was good when there was swing on offer and absolutely deadly on green pitches, wearing pitches etc. But on flat tracks he struggled. His record in Australia, UAE and Pakistan shows that. Asif was not a swing bowler. he was a seam bowler. He was a bowler of McGrath mold though slower than McGrath. Link to comment
bhakum20 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: How? Asif was also a GTB. Really? I thought he could seam the ball on flat pitches too due to the wobble. E.g. that test when India had a target of 599 runs in PAK and asif was bowling 80mph off-spinners. Was that pitch lively, because when we were bowling it looked anything but UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Sachinism Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Man I miss Asif. Such a skilled bowler, was always a treat to watch UrmiSinhaRay and Ankit_sharma03 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, bhakum20 said: Really? I thought he could seam the ball on flat pitches too due to the wobble. E.g. that test when India had a target of 599 runs in PAK and asif was bowling 80mph off-spinners. Was that pitch lively, because when we were bowling it looked anything but No. Wobbly seam does mean ball will seam on flat pitches too. Yes that pitch had a lot of grass. IN the first innings, it was green and both teams struggled with the bat, but by second innings grass dried but grass was still there which helped him seam the ball. Our bowlers were poor in second innings. it was not a 500 pitch. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Anderson is being brutally honest. He is best new ball bowler and highest wicket taker but thats about it. He knows there are quite a lot if places where along with his skill, yard or two extra pace is needed to succeed. If only he had that he would have been regarded as best bowler in History of cricket. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 52 minutes ago, mishra said: Anderson is being brutally honest. He is best new ball bowler and highest wicket taker but thats about it. He knows there are quite a lot if places where along with his skill, yard or two extra pace is needed to succeed. If only he had that he would have been regarded as best bowler in History of cricket. Anderson was quick in 2007. He was the quickest bowler from both sides in that series was hitting 90-91 mph but then he never had the stamina to sustain it. mishra and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Anderson was quick in 2007. He was the quickest bowler from both sides in that series was hitting 90-91 mph but then he never had the stamina to sustain it. During his early International career, bowler do not know their own body and stetch it. Here , another very honest article, where he talks about 90mph, effect of bowling long overs on his body https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2018/01/02/james-anderson-exclusive-pain-fast-bowler-affects-normal-life/amp/ UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Moochad Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 This is obvious as Steyn is the GOAT and McGrath is up there. Jimmy isn't that level but still great UrmiSinhaRay, Vilander and MCcricket 1 2 Link to comment
Vilander Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 19 hours ago, Sachinism said: Man I miss Asif. Such a skilled bowler, was always a treat to watch did not know you were so emotionally attached to pakistan..ok bye Link to comment
Vilander Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 on Topic. Anderson, we know that already. Link to comment
Tibarn Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Career summary Grouping Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 in Australia 2006-2018 18 34 720.3 181 2126 60 5/43 7/127 35.43 2.95 72.0 1 0 in England 2003-2018 83 159 3049.3 806 8745 368 7/42 11/71 23.76 2.86 49.7 21 3 in India 2006-2016 10 18 309.5 71 870 26 4/40 6/79 33.46 2.80 71.5 0 0 in New Zealand 2008-2018 7 12 255.0 58 853 26 5/73 7/130 32.80 3.34 58.8 1 0 in South Africa 2005-2016 8 14 315.1 55 998 25 5/63 8/161 39.92 3.16 75.6 1 0 in Sri Lanka 2003-2012 4 7 135.4 30 448 11 5/72 5/98 40.72 3.30 74.0 1 0 in U.A.E. 2012-2015 6 12 216.0 63 452 22 4/17 6/69 20.54 2.09 58.9 0 0 in West Indies 2009-2015 7 11 248.2 68 648 26 6/42 7/77 24.92 2.60 57.3 1 0 Jimmy only has a great strike rate at home. Every other place it takes him at least 57 balls to take a single wicket.He's basically toothless in all but 4 countries, and in 3 of the 4 he is only average. At the home of the 3 other big test teams, Aus/Ind/SA, he doesn't do anything it seems. It's hard to call him "great" with such a record. He is good at best. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
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