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Rahane NEEDS to score 100s in SENA


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Recently, the last two years period, Rahane has been the weakest link in our batting:

 

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V Kohli 2016-2018 26 46 4 2902 243 69.09 4502 64.46 11 7 3 305 8 investigate this query
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AM Rahane 2016-2018 24 42 3 1288 188 33.02 2710 47.52 2 6 3 138 8

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We are told that Rahane avg is low because he played in Asia, etc. SENA conditions suit him the most .... However, to justify his place in the side as "the top 1-2 batsman in SENA, he needs to score 100s. Other batsmen score big 100s in conditions that suit them so we tolerate to a certain extent an OK performance in other conditions  .... His avg in the series in SENA should be closer to 50 if not higher 

 

Rahane has been sub par recently. For e.g. if on the tour to Aus, if he is going to score 2-3 50s with a bunch of low scores, it might be a better idea to consider someone with the potential to hit 100s 

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49 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

you didnt even get the gist of the post. Others at least score runs at other places while Rahane is considered Sena specialist.

who are these others leaving Kohli aside?????  Dhawan? Rahul? Vijay? Pujara ?  Pujara still has only 2 100s in about 41 inns in SENA.

And his recrod in each one of SENA has been 'average to pathetic' at best. Rahane not only has been brilliant in SENA , but has been like that in SL and WI too. Rahane's only problem has been in India , but here too he avg:s around 33.Pujara sucks in WI too.

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i want him to first score in ranji's and be the best bat out there , we can then talk about sena.

 

if you give the same amount of chances that rahane got to another top 10 ranji batsman they would also have similar stats like rahane.

 

we just give too long a rope for folks who impress first and too short a rope for folks who falter in first few matches unless they are considered the next big thing like sachin, kohli. shaw is probably in that category as well.

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i  will start to blame Rahane only if he starts to fail in his strong  zones. In the last 2 years he played only 2 inns in SAF, one of his strong zones, But he could play  only 1 test  in a very  bowler friendly series and one of his inns was a top score of team inns which won the match for India.So that is not at all convincing to write off Rahane.

 

From my game watching experience I have went thru a lot  where top players would play brilliantly in their strong zones , then will be a pale shadow in their week zone, then again would be like duck into water in their strong zones. For instance  Dravid  was paltry in 1999 Aus series but in the next ENG series (his strong zone he was virtually unstoppable). Similar was the case with  Ganguly  too. Similarly

Laxman was  merely good in both SAF & WI series in 2006. But when the AUS series in 2007 came he hit top gear. Sachin was always playing the catch up game in SAF  till his final series in which  he rectified  his record so emphatically. But this didn't detract him from hitting top gear in almost all other series.Similarly Sehwag was always below par in all except AUS in SENA. But when his turn in AUS came, he rose to his brilliant best except in the last series when  he was steadily declining due to slowing reflexes.

 

So several examples are there to prove my point. Based on that, unless Rahane fails alarmingly in  next tours to AUS,NZL & saf , I would not write him off.  

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21 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

So several examples are there to prove my point. Based on that, unless Rahane fails alarmingly in  next tours to AUS,NZL & saf , I would not write him off.  

He does not need to fail alarmingly but has to get big scores at 5 to even be considered. 2-3 50s in a series is not enough overseas batting at 5 when you are a no show in places like Ind :lol:

 

An avg of 33 in last 2 years in as bad as it can get for a specialist batsman .... and he would have nothing to complain if dropped 

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10 minutes ago, zen said:

He does not need to fail alarmingly but has to get big scores at 5 to even be considered. 2-3 50s in a series is not enough overseas batting at 5 when you are a no show in places like Ind :lol:

 

An avg of 33 in last 2 years in as bad as it can get for a specialist batsman .... and he would have nothing to complain if dropped 

w.r.t avg: of 33 ,  i have already stated the reasons to you before. W.r.t  big scores , you need to compare both Sourav's and Laxman 's record not only over all , but also in SENA specifically  because both were middle order players.

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9 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

w.r.t avg: of 33 ,  i have already stated the reasons to you before. W.r.t  big scores , you need to compare both Sourav's and Laxman 's record not only over all , but also in SENA specifically  because both were middle order players.

Not at all. You cannot avg so low over a 2 yr period .... team dynamics are different too, what Ganguly or Laxman got in their time is irrelevant ... today we rely on both batting and bowling to win, and play 5 specialists batsmen vs 6 so have the choice to pick the best options 

 

you are standing up for an irrelevant cause here .... your position can only gain strength if no one is better than Rahane and he is performing like what a specialist batsman should :winky:

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21 minutes ago, zen said:

Not at all. You cannot avg so low over a 2 yr period .... team dynamics are different too, what Ganguly or Laxman got in their time is irrelevant ... today we rely on both batting and bowling to win, and play 5 specialists batsmen vs 6 so have the choice to pick the best options 

 

you are standing up for an irrelevant cause here .... your position can only gain strength if no one is better than Rahane and he is performing like what a specialist batsman should :winky:

Both Sourav & Laxman,especially Sourav too had such low passage in their careers. if we have only 5 batsmen now, then we have  better all rounders   than from  the earlier era to provide those extra runs.Yes all the batsmen  who played in this ENG series baring Kohli were so better to Rahane.

 

On a serious note, coming AUS tour will  be a major indication for me to realize as to    whether what I believe about his stats is true or not.Till then I  would believe in what I think about him to be true. And again , I am not at all interested in arguing for the  sake of it. So , this will be the final point  w.r.t this , specifically to you  from my part

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1 hour ago, rtmohanlal said:

Both Sourav & Laxman,especially Sourav too had such low passage in their careers. if we have only 5 batsmen now, then we have  better all rounders   than from  the earlier era to provide those extra runs.Yes all the batsmen  who played in this ENG series baring Kohli were so better to Rahane.

 

On a serious note, coming AUS tour will  be a major indication for me to realize as to    whether what I believe about his stats is true or not.Till then I  would believe in what I think about him to be true. And again , I am not at all interested in arguing for the  sake of it. So , this will be the final point  w.r.t this , specifically to you  from my part

You are only repeating yourself w/ the central theme being "major indication for me", and conveniently removing countries one by one out of SENA :lol:  ....  I would not be surprised if you had written that Rahane would be a success in Eng after his stint in SA .... With him performing poorly and touted to be a SENA specialists, he is supposed to perform better than some of the other batsmen, esp. batting at 5, where Rahane came out a cropper in SA and now Eng. Leading his fans to remove E, where he got the FULL series, from SENA, so now he is a SAN specialists, after Aus tour, he would probably be a SN specialist and then  S :dontknow: 

 

 

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