Why are so many mediocre players suddenly being picked for our LOI teams ?

[express bowling]

Kaul

Shardul

Rayudu

Axar

Karthick

Chahar

Unadkat

Old Raina

 

All these players have been chosen for our LOI teams in the last 7 months.  6 of them have graced our Team with their presence in this Asia Cup.  

 

So many people think that there guys are very mediocre at this stage of their careers and some of them were always so.

 

With so much talent available for selection, why are we suddenly turning to mediocrity, that too in great numbers.

 

We have so many new pacers coming up and playing fir India-A, who combine pace with skills  ( like Saini, Siraj, Rajpoot, Prasidh ) ... but among new pacers getting picked, we are mostly prefering either trundlers or short pacers without high skills.

 

Our ODI middle order is now being led by Rayudu and Karthick.  What wrong did Rahul do ?   And why has Iyer been dropped from the squad without getting a game in England  ?  He has done reasonably well in the few chances he has got.  And we have Mayank, Shaw, Pant, Gill etc. waiting too.  

 

Khaleel Ahmed is the only high quality pick  ( among new players )  that I have seen in LOIs in the last 7 months.

 

What is going on  ?

 

 

Edited October 12, 2018 by express bowling

[UrmiSinhaRay]

Not really a conspiracy theory - apart from Dhoni involvement, I think selectors are afraid of trying new players and risk their rankings.

They had to try out Pant because there was pressure from cricket experts to give him chance - and now they're compensating it by not giving them chance In LoIs.
Else the exclusion of Rahul seems even more baffling IMO.

Not only Kohli, but even Rohit is cliquey and influenced by Dhoni IMO

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[Laaloo]

[express bowling]

Some of these mediocre players will have occasional good games ... and some may have a couple of good series too.  

 

No one who has reached this level is a total pushover.

 

But ... will they ever be consistent performers throughout the year or multiple years  ? 

 

Will they ever reach the levels reached by Kohli, Dhoni, Rohit, Dhawan, Bumrah etc. in ODIs ... or even come near it   ?

 

Aren't they blocking the spots of  more deserving candidates who have the potential to reach much greater heights in LOIs and help India win more matches   as a result  ?  

 

This is where eye for talent, for a particular format, comes in.  

 

 

Edited September 22, 2018 by express bowling

[Ankit_sharma03]

• kohli loves experienced player , he has more confidence in them . Kohli doesnt have an eye for talent . Like when u read ganguly interview ull see how he has an eye for talent be it new or old player. He always says he looks for match winners. When chappell came he wanted young players left right centre 
• MSK - head of selectors is among the likes of akash chopra who never had grr8 talent so they have a soft corner for cricketers who are hard working but lacks talent. 

Their wud be some pattern under every captain which will reflect how he thinks . Every captain has his kind of trust on some ppl . When roht will become  full time captain a team will be build acc to him. Right now his job is to captain a side which is being build for kohlis' vision 

[OpeningBatsman]

Incompetent selectors 

i really imagine them jokers sitting like this - - > n selecting the team along with Bewda Shastri

[Ankit_sharma03]

4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Some of these mediocre players will have occasional good games ... and some may have a couple of good series too.  

That is the problem with team mngmt they dnt have the eye

Take test cricket , they didnt understand dhawan n rohit are not meant for test so they keep giving them chances during home games or subcontinet games 

 

The minute the went to overseas the cycle begin again, they jst arent learning from their mistakes

 

Yes they are not bad players, they are above avg. But if we have to be a champion side we need match winners that were an eye for talent comes which doesnt look the case right now 

 

Sometimes i feel they dnt knw how good they are or they still living under old kind of cricket style

Once i did write about this we play safe n conservative 

So they feel safe with these knwn faces

 

This is a cycle thats being repeated again n again. 

4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Aren't they blocking the spots of  more deserving candidates who have the potential to reach much greater heights in LOIs and help India win more matches   as a result  ?  

They dnt have faith in them

They associate inconsistency with young players...........the concept of investing in a player is not understood by current setup 

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, OpeningBatsman said:

Incompetent selectors 

i really imagine them jokers sitting like this - - > n selecting the team along with Bewda Shastri

I dnt wanna blame them also as much

They are doing a good job with A-team , yes in areas like fast bowling their eye for talent is 0

but they are giving the kind of player that this team mngmt is asking 

[OpeningBatsman]

Not a fan, but Axar still is young and has time to develop. Not a poor 5th bowler he can do the containing job but for that he has to improve his batting by leaps n bounds coz at the moment Krunal is way ahead of him and much more valuable as a lower order hitter and containing bowler. 

[DHONI_FANN]

Selectors themselves have been mediocre players all through their life so they don't want their chosen players to do well 

[Lala]

All Indian players are mediocre before they were chosen to national side. Baat yai hai, some are still being mediocre 

[Sean Bradley]

Emotional Quotient, Model College ke Bhooke Nange deserves a place ahead of Rajpoot College ke Gabru Launde in a country of 1.2 Billion emotional fools. Selectors are thinking of TRP over Success and Victory, thats the only illogical logic i can think of in these bizarre selection policies. MSK prasad is the chief selector, could it get any worse. 

Edited September 22, 2018 by Sean Bradley

[RAZPOR]

I have lost all hope with this management and selectors.

Rahul ,krunal,Siraj,khaleel,pant and others were unfortunately born in the wrong era where all the selectors and management was high on bewda stuff....

The amount of great players coming up now ,we can only imagine what could have been with a captain like Ganguly,we would have been unbeatable

[express bowling]

17 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

That is the problem with team mngmt they dnt have the eye

Take test cricket , they didnt understand dhawan n rohit are not meant for test so they keep giving them chances during home games or subcontinet games 

 

The minute the went to overseas the cycle begin again, they jst arent learning from their mistakes

 

 

This shows lack of ability to identify format specific players and lack of thinking ability to some extent.

 

How will batters with poor off-stump games, like Dhawan and Rohit, succeed in test matches where the ball moves  !

 

This team mananagement thinking that getting batting practice against the white ball  in LOIs in England will prepare them for test cricket with the red Dukes ball  ... amazing lack of vision.

 

There is no one with thinking ability in this team management ...  something which Kumble had.

[UrmiSinhaRay]

 
This shows lack of ability to identify format specific players and lack of thinking ability to some extent.
 
How will batters with poor off-stump games, like Dhawan and Rohit, succeed in test matches where the ball moves  !
 
This team mananagement thinking that getting batting practice against the white ball  in LOIs in England will prepare them for test cricket with the red Dukes ball  ... amazing lack of vision.
 
There is no one with thinking ability in this team management ...  something which Kumble had.

Kumble is brainy


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[express bowling]

29 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

I dnt wanna blame them also as much

They are doing a good job with A-team , yes in areas like fast bowling their eye for talent is 0

 

 

Yes ... same group of selectors have chosen some really good  " A " teams.

 

Even fast bowlers.  Siraj, Saini and Rajpoot are the 3 best picks for Unofficial tests.

 

Khaleel and Prasidh are good picks for 50 over A-teams.

 

Saini and Mavi got selected for the Quadrangular A-team tournament.

 

Gill got a chance in the Unofficial test team.

 

All great picks.

 

Krunal, Gopal, Gowtham, Shankar  ... Mayank, Shaw, Vihari, Samarth ... all of them are there.

Edited September 22, 2018 by express bowling

[RAZPOR]

2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Yes ... same group of selectors have chosen some really good  " A " teams.

 

Even fast bowlers.  Siraj, Saini and Rajpoot are the 3 best picks for Unofficial tests.

 

Khaleel and Prasidh are good picks for 50 over A-teams.

 

Saini and Mavi got selected for the Quadrangular A-team tournament.

 

Gill got a chance in the Unofficial test team.

 

All great picks.

A teams are Thier to serve selections for the national team ,what's the point of getting teams right there if you fail so spectacularly in choosing right players for where it matters ,which is national squad.

And whatever selections they do get right are nullified by bone headed captain's and management.Prime example is Rahul.

[express bowling]

13 minutes ago, RAZPOR said:

A teams are Thier to serve selections for the national team ,what's the point of getting teams right there if you fail so spectacularly in choosing right players for where it matters ,which is national squad.

And whatever selections they do get right are nullified by bone headed captain's and management.Prime example is Rahul.

 

Yes ... and it could mean a few things.

 

Dravid is positively influencing the correct selection of A-teams.

 

And  /   Or

 

Indian team management's influence is ruining senior national team selection.

 

Probably a bit of both.

 

But this difference in quality of selections of the Senior Teams and the A-teams need to be observed to get an idea of what is actually going on.

[RAZPOR]

3 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Yes ... and it could mean a few things.

 

Dravid is positively influencing the correct selection of A-teams.

 

And  /   Or

 

Indian team management's influence is ruining senior national team selection.

 

Probably a bit of both.

 

But this difference in quality of selections of the Senior Teams and the A-teams need to be observed to get an idea of what is actually going on.

Obviously means team management are a bunch of morons along with useless captain

[Ankit_sharma03]

26 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

This shows lack of ability to identify format specific players and lack of thinking ability to some extent.

 

How will batters with poor off-stump games, like Dhawan and Rohit, succeed in test matches where the ball moves  !

 

This team mananagement thinking that getting batting practice against the white ball  in LOIs in England will prepare them for test cricket with the red Dukes ball  ... amazing lack of vision.

 

There is no one with thinking ability in this team management ...  something which Kumble had.

worst part is forget having an eye for talent , they dnt even learn after poor results

• When dhawan n rohit failed badly in 1st cycle of overseas- they didnt learn
• When raina was selected again did someone check has he solved his bouncer issue?? No. All they saw was he cleared yo-yo so he must have improved
• Kaul bowling in england looked very ordinary, how hard was it to judge.
• Rayudu keep coming back again n again, has anyone checked that his games has improved agianst pace n bounce overseas. Or are they dumb that they dnt understand that IPL is diff from international cricket. The logic of his IPL is beyond me coz when was he bad in IPL. 
• Karthik - 14 yrs and yet we dnt learn. He pilled on runs in domestic so what happened in england how did his feet frooze....he never had format issues 

 

So players are being selected back in team after being dropped without checking if they have improved

N same mistakes are being repeated again n again