Singh bling Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 5 hours ago, beetle said: No....wife had no say in anything. Husband could get wife's lover arrested...if the lover had sex with his wife without his permission. If the lover had sex without wife's permission that is rape UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 5 hours ago, beetle said: Because it has not been used for ages. So many cases of adultery happen. When have we ever seen the lover of the wife being sent to jail. Adultery as grounds for divorce is what generally happens. If ages means five years then yes the law was not used https://m.hindustantimes.com/delhi-news/for-adulterous-relations-with-landlord-s-wife-and-fathering-child-man-sent-to-jail-for-3-yrs/story-YDpIj3Oa9lrSK9Qlgz9vUI.html UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) Sex and Love are although related, but these two are still different things. But they are made one by our society, which is wrong. They claim if man or woman do have occasionally sex with others then this means they don't love their respective partners or the family. People do sex sometimes due to frustration, sometimes to get rid of boredom etc. It is almost the same if men watch pornos (even after getting married), or they sometimes masturbate (while they already have wives) . There is hardly any difference in watching pornos or masturbating and having sex with other person. But our society deems pornos or masturbation by married men to be OK, and believe still he could love his wife and children. But if wife do sex out of wedlock, then society believes that she is not able to love her husband any more. This is a wrong conclusion. === Inuit got the tradition, where husband offered his wife to his guest. This sex was not considered against the love that those husband and wife had for each other. Edited September 27, 2018 by Alam_dar UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaanda pav kilo milega Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alam_dar said: Sex and Love are although related, but these two are still different things. But they are made one by our society, which is wrong. They claim if man or woman do have occasionally sex with others then this means they don't love their respective partners or the family. People do sex sometimes due to frustration, sometimes to get rid of boredom etc. It is almost the same if men watch pornos (even after getting married), or they sometimes masturbate (while they already have wives) . There is hardly any difference in watching pornos or masturbating and having sex with other person. But our society deems pornos or masturbation by married men to be OK, and believe still he could love his wife and children. But if wife do sex out of wedlock, then society believes that she is not able to love her husband any more. This is a wrong conclusion. === Inuit got the tradition, where husband offered his wife to his guest. This sex was not considered against the love that those husband and wife had for each other. Yeh aadmi chalta firta kama sutra hai. Alam bhaijaan, aap humko boliye ki hum kaunsi sabji beche sex power badhane ke liye? Ab log aur sex karenge aur humari sabji bikegi! Edited September 27, 2018 by Kaanda pav kilo milega UrmiSinhaRay and Alam_dar 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikred Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Sex and Love are although related, but these two are still different things. But they are made one by our society, which is wrong. They claim if man or woman do have occasionally sex with others then this means they don't love their respective partners or the family. People do sex sometimes due to frustration, sometimes to get rid of boredom etc. It is almost the same if men watch pornos (even after getting married), or they sometimes masturbate (while they already have wives) . There is hardly any difference in watching pornos or masturbating and having sex with other person. But our society deems pornos or masturbation by married men to be OK, and believe still he could love his wife and children. But if wife do sex out of wedlock, then society believes that she is not able to love her husband any more. This is a wrong conclusion. === Inuit got the tradition, where husband offered his wife to his guest. This sex was not considered against the love that those husband and wife had for each other. Do you mean having sex with another person without any emotional connect? You might feel there is no difference between that and masturbation, but try explaining that to your spouse. Heck, would you react the same way if you caught your spouse in both these scenarios?Are you married? I am asking this because honestly I might have reacted to your post differently before I got married. Now that I am married, I can never imagine this going fine for me. Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Singh bling said: If the lover had sex without wife's permission that is rape Yes... But this law was about having sex with the wife without her husband's consent. Which means if the husband was fine with his wife having sex with another man....it was not adultery. If husband was not fine with his wife having sex with another man , it was adultery Basically the law was about the husband's reaction and not about the act itself. Secondly if the husband had sex with another woman without his wife's consent, The wife could not put a case against the other woman. Alam_dar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Singh bling said: If ages means five years then yes the law was not used https://m.hindustantimes.com/delhi-news/for-adulterous-relations-with-landlord-s-wife-and-fathering-child-man-sent-to-jail-for-3-yrs/story-YDpIj3Oa9lrSK9Qlgz9vUI.html It is mostly used in the armed forces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 10 hours ago, beetle said: No....wife had no say in anything. Husband could get wife's lover arrested...if the lover had sex with his wife without his permission. No check the case. Both the cases, it was lopsided. Woman was always exonerated in the law, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: No check the case. Both the cases, it was lopsided. Woman was always exonerated in the law, Arey baba ...you guys na According to the law , the wife was considered husband property. If another man had sex with this wife/ property , the offended husband could send the wife's lover ( not the wife ) to jail. He could of course divorce the wife on grounds of adultery. So here , guy gets to have revenge against the man who dared to have sex with his wife / property. The husband on the other hand is not considered the wife's property. If another woman has sex with a woman's husband....the wife cannot have his lover ( the other woman)sent to jail . She can only divorce him . The only person who goes to jail is the wife's lover( man)....because he dared to defile the husband's property ( wife) . The husband's lover ( woman)does not go to jail. It was struck down because ... 1)it was sexist ( towards women because she gets treated like husband's property) 2) unfair ....because only wife's lover ( male) gets punished while the husband's lover ( female) does not get punished. Edited September 28, 2018 by beetle coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 2 hours ago, nikred said: Do you mean having sex with another person without any emotional connect? You might feel there is no difference between that and masturbation, but try explaining that to your spouse. Heck, would you react the same way if you caught your spouse in both these scenarios? Are you married? I am asking this because honestly I might have reacted to your post differently before I got married. Now that I am married, I can never imagine this going fine for me. Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk give it 20 years and see where you are at. Its no coincidence that desis or videsis, most swingers are 50+ couples who've been married 20-30+ years. Alam_dar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 2 hours ago, nikred said: Do you mean having sex with another person without any emotional connect? You might feel there is no difference between that and masturbation, but try explaining that to your spouse. Heck, would you react the same way if you caught your spouse in both these scenarios? Are you married? I am asking this because honestly I might have reacted to your post differently before I got married. Now that I am married, I can never imagine this going fine for me. Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk This is how our minds have been trained. Alam_dar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikred Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 give it 20 years and see where you are at. Its no coincidence that desis or videsis, most swingers are 50+ couples who've been married 20-30+ years. Swinger couples have mutual consent. I am talking about walking into your bedroom with your spouse having sex with other person without your consent against your spouse masturbating. Would your reaction be the same? Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 minute ago, nikred said: Swinger couples have mutual consent. I am talking about walking into your bedroom with your spouse having sex with other person without your consent against your spouse masturbating. Would your reaction be the same? Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk oh ok. got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 6 hours ago, nikred said: Do you mean having sex with another person without any emotional connect? You might feel there is no difference between that and masturbation, but try explaining that to your spouse. Heck, would you react the same way if you caught your spouse in both these scenarios? Are you married? I am asking this because honestly I might have reacted to your post differently before I got married. Now that I am married, I can never imagine this going fine for me. I believe we all have some mental blockage due to the society and our upbringing. For example, for Inuits, it was hospitality and honour to serve the guest (close friend) his wife. They didn't have this mental blockage while doing so. Our case is different. What to talk about sex with other men, even if we find our wives masturbating alone, then it will offend us and we feel it our insult. Some may deem it a sign that we are "Na-Mard" and we are unable to satisfy our wives. Or even wives watching pornos alone would also not be digested easily. 3 hours ago, nikred said: Swinger couples have mutual consent. I am talking about walking into your bedroom with your spouse having sex with other person without your consent against your spouse masturbating. Would your reaction be the same? Again some could also have mental blockage against the mutual consent too. They neither want to do sex outside of wedlock themselves, and also don't allow the partners to do it (like our society). But for some, it would be ok if their partners go for sex with others. Just like the Muslim women of last 14 centuries, who were mentally prepared for it that their husbands has the right to sleep with other wives, and also he could buy dozens of slave-girls and could do sex with them. The still believed that their husband loved them despite having sex with dozens of other girls. So, the lesson is this that in Islamic society it was considered that husband is able of loving all dozens of women that he has sex with, but wife is not able to love the husband if she does sex with anyone else than his husband. You would be surprised to know that even today there exist many Muslim women (especially in Arab world) who happily look for 2nd or 3rd wife for their respective husbands while they believe that this will make their husband happy and he will become more loving to all of them. This is Islamic Religious Brainwashing which bring them to this mental state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikred Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Again some could also have mental blockage against the mutual consent too. They neither want to do sex outside of wedlock themselves, and also don't allow the partners to do it (like our society). But for some, it would be ok if their partners go for sex with others. Just like the Muslim women of last 14 centuries, who were mentally prepared for it that their husbands has the right to sleep with other wives, and also he could buy dozens of slave-girls and could do sex with them. The still believed that their husband loved them despite having sex with dozens of other girls. So, the lesson is this that in Islamic society it was considered that husband is able of loving all dozens of women that he has sex with, but wife is not able to love the husband if she does sex with anyone else than his husband. You would be surprised to know that even today there exist many Muslim women (especially in Arab world) who happily look for 2nd or 3rd wife for their respective husbands while they believe that this will make their husband happy and he will become more loving to all of them. This is Islamic Religious Brainwashing which bring them to this mental state. Again some could also have mental blockage against the mutual consent too. They neither want to do sex outside of wedlock themselves, and also don't allow the partners to do it (like our society). But for some, it would be ok if their partners go for sex with others. Just like the Muslim women of last 14 centuries, who were mentally prepared for it that their husbands has the right to sleep with other wives, and also he could buy dozens of slave-girls and could do sex with them. The still believed that their husband loved them despite having sex with dozens of other girls. So, the lesson is this that in Islamic society it was considered that husband is able of loving all dozens of women that he has sex with, but wife is not able to love the husband if she does sex with anyone else than his husband. You would be surprised to know that even today there exist many Muslim women (especially in Arab world) who happily look for 2nd or 3rd wife for their respective husbands while they believe that this will make their husband happy and he will become more loving to all of them. This is Islamic Religious Brainwashing which bring them to this mental state. That's all fine but being cheated is not a mental blockage. My point was being cheated and masturbation or watching porn is not the same. Leave polygamy and polyandry out of this. That's still mutual consent at the end of the day, sort off. In which community is it OK to cheat your spouse. Let me rephrase, in which community is it OK for any one of the spouse to have sex outside the wedlock without the other's consent? It's a big no no even for the most progressive modern western society to cheat your spouse. Now again, I don't know about the Innuits. Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk Muloghonto and beetle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, nikred said: That's all fine but being cheated is not a mental blockage. My point was being cheated and masturbation or watching porn is not the same. Leave polygamy and polyandry out of this. That's still mutual consent at the end of the day, sort off. In which community is it OK to cheat your spouse. Let me rephrase, in which community is it OK for any one of the spouse to have sex outside the wedlock without the other's consent? It's a big no no even for the most progressive modern western society to cheat your spouse. Now again, I don't know about the Innuits. I think, by NATURE humans are not designed to be contempt by having sex with only one partner (at least I could say it about the men, while women could tell better about themselves). Men are indeed attracted towards multiple women, other than their own wife. Sometimes they react in form of masturbation, sometimes in form of pornos, while sometimes having sex with other women, or sometimes even with having sex with same gender. As far as cheating is concerned. then I thinks it happens mostly when there are many taboos in the society. Western society was different couple of decades ago, and they followed the religion and were close to have the same moral as our society. But now they are standing far away from the old morals. And no one knows where they will be standing in the next couple of decades. Edited September 28, 2018 by Alam_dar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaanda pav kilo milega Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Alam bhaijaan likes kacha maans and other missuses. Meri sabji khareedo, aur phir tum khush rahoge with one missus only UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 15 hours ago, Kaanda pav kilo milega said: Yeh aadmi chalta firta kama sutra hai. Alam bhaijaan, aap humko boliye ki hum kaunsi sabji beche sex power badhane ke liye? Ab log aur sex karenge aur humari sabji bikegi! Kama Sutra should be related to Bhagwan Rajnish perhaps. I am nothing, and only trying to find out this question how the human beings evolved and what was our behaviour during last couple of hundred thousands of years without any mental therapy. And modern cultivated Sabzi of yours have no sex power. Perhaps you should become an Veid with herbs instead of Sabziwala. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamy Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 @Alam_dar Bhai, maybe the book Sex at Dawn will be interesting to you. Alam_dar, velu and Laaloo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 18 hours ago, nikred said: That's all fine but being cheated is not a mental blockage. My point was being cheated and masturbation or watching porn is not the same. Leave polygamy and polyandry out of this. That's still mutual consent at the end of the day, sort off. In which community is it OK to cheat your spouse. Let me rephrase, in which community is it OK for any one of the spouse to have sex outside the wedlock without the other's consent? It's a big no no even for the most progressive modern western society to cheat your spouse. Now again, I don't know about the Innuits. Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk Do you think marriage is just about sex? Alam_dar, UrmiSinhaRay and Switchblade 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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