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BCCI vs PCB at the ICC Disputes Resolution Committee, Is the decision fixed to screw BCCI?


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40 minutes ago, sandeep said:

They don't have to enforce anything.  Its a heads I win, tails you lose situation - If the BCCI does not accept the ruling of the "independent" committee, that makes the Giles Clarke Faction's argument stronger to push for more ICC "reforms".  

 

You can't realistically threaten to withdraw out of the ICC - that's a nuclear weapon.  In the face of a verdict against it, BCCI cannot argue that the Indian Govt won't allow it comply - because by its own words, its a private body not under jurisdiction of the government.  

India can agree to anything but if BJP govt stops the telecast live in India it is game over for ICC. ICC is vindictive body but they are not stupid like PCB. There is limit to everything.

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41 minutes ago, sandeep said:

BCCI cannot argue that the Indian Govt won't allow it comply - because by its own words, its a private body not under jurisdiction of the government.  

the key would be. If the transfer of money to PCB from BCCI is an offence punishable under any provision of law in India. If that is a the case the registrar in TN societies act can put a stop to BCCI..lol

 

If was fun to read the TN societies act. if sending money to PCB can be attributed as unlawful ( say to the detriment of Indian players registered with BCCI etc) then it can be stopped by TN registrar or a district magistrate in Chennai.

 

https://www.teozofija.info/tsmembers/1975TN27.pdf

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^ shukla, Pawar, CoA and then Public lynching of Srini Mama, Its daylight robbery. You cant miss it. Modi is probably waiting for next term to take decisive action
Man you totally forgot Shashank Manohar.
He's basically backing the Giles Clarke faction on reducing Bcci's influence
His hatred for srini mamu is legendary.
Good thing is The old BCCI people have run back to Srini Mamu and Anurag Thakur and they're planning to counter this.

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6 minutes ago, Vilander said:

the key would be. If the transfer of money to PCB from BCCI is an offence punishable under any provision of law in India. If that is a the case the registrar in TN societies act can put a stop to BCCI..lol

 

If was fun to read the TN societies act. if sending money to PCB can be attributed as unlawful ( say to the detriment of Indian players registered with BCCI etc) then it can be stopped by TN registrar or a district magistrate in Chennai.

 

https://www.teozofija.info/tsmembers/1975TN27.pdf

sorry some context. BCCI is a society registered in TN societies act. 

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This is ridiculous and a result of COA incompetence. Not matter what not a single penny should be released to PCB. Paks dont care about money, ethics or intricacies of the law. All this is only to show Indians their place and showcase Pak ability to "manage" high and mighty in India, in this case, COA and other BCCI haramis who are probably colluding with Paks. 

The day BCCI pays "jijya" to Pak...they will martyr few more of our soldiers to celebrate... 1000 cuts and all... 

 

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40 minutes ago, Vilander said:

the key would be. If the transfer of money to PCB from BCCI is an offence punishable under any provision of law in India. If that is a the case the registrar in TN societies act can put a stop to BCCI..lol

 

If was fun to read the TN societies act. if sending money to PCB can be attributed as unlawful ( say to the detriment of Indian players registered with BCCI etc) then it can be stopped by TN registrar or a district magistrate in Chennai.

 

https://www.teozofija.info/tsmembers/1975TN27.pdf

Do you know how many Indian companies export/import to Pakistan? This is not a route that is in India's best interest to go towards. Its in our interest to increase trade with Pakistan, for commercial reasons, strategic reasons as well as in the interests of building a long-term peace.  Best bet was to have avoided ICC becoming the "referee" in this dispute.  But ICC politics and BCCI impotency (self-inflicted) took that off the table.  

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43 minutes ago, Vilander said:

looks like its not a verdict..its just a committee as pointed out by Sandeep. Its not even legal.

 

23 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:


 

 


It's basically an illegal Kangaroo court that is not unanswerable.

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You guys are missing the point.  As a member board of the ICC, the BCCI is committed to adhering to the verdict of this kangaroo committee.  And if the worst case scenario plays out, fighting the 'judgement' is also likely to be counter-productive for the interests of Indian Cricket and BCCI with respect to the ICC.  That's the point.

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Now that  I think about it, it makes sense why the ICC disbanded the Champions Trophy tournament.  Why would the ICC a greedy corporate organization by design and definition, willingly give up a chunk of the calendar, and a tournament that generates hundreds of millions of dollars?  Answer:  Because it reduces the leverage that BCCI can exercise at the ICC level.  CT was a tournament where BCCI could realistically threaten to not participate in.  And majority of Indians would support such a move if perceived to be as a response to bullying of the BCCI. 

 

But BCCI can't realistically threaten to withdraw from the World Cup.  Or International Cricket in general.  Armchair pundits can froth and shout, but reality is that it would never fly.  

 

The revenues that the ICC is 'giving up' from the CT, will be more than made up, if it is successful in imposing a direct tax on all 'bilateral cricket' as part of the ODI and test league/championship.  And this type of set-up would sharply limit the BCCI's ability to use its financial strength as leverage.  

 

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6 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Now that  I think about it, it makes sense why the ICC disbanded the Champions Trophy tournament.  Why would the ICC a greedy corporate organization by design and definition, willingly give up a chunk of the calendar, and a tournament that generates hundreds of millions of dollars?  Answer:  Because it reduces the leverage that BCCI can exercise at the ICC level.  CT was a tournament where BCCI could realistically threaten to not participate in.  And majority of Indians would support such a move if perceived to be as a response to bullying of the BCCI. 

 

But BCCI can't realistically threaten to withdraw from the World Cup.  Or International Cricket in general.  Armchair pundits can froth and shout, but reality is that it would never fly.  

 

The revenues that the ICC is 'giving up' from the CT, will be more than made up, if it is successful in imposing a direct tax on all 'bilateral cricket' as part of the ODI and test league/championship.  And this type of set-up would sharply limit the BCCI's ability to use its financial strength as leverage.  

 

 In reality in the long run, it will ensure cricket becomes a club based sport, with Asian cup and a world cup - ICC it writing its own death sentence.  Very greedy body.

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27 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Do you know how many Indian companies export/import to Pakistan? This is not a route that is in India's best interest to go towards. Its in our interest to increase trade with Pakistan, for commercial reasons, strategic reasons as well as in the interests of building a long-term peace.  Best bet was to have avoided ICC becoming the "referee" in this dispute.  But ICC politics and BCCI impotency (self-inflicted) took that off the table.  

payment vs levy right, this is a levy. There are legal resource available still.but best would have been to avoid ICC altogether, which should have been pretty easy.

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4 minutes ago, Vilander said:

payment vs levy right, this is a levy. There are legal resource available still.but best would have been to avoid ICC altogether, which should have been pretty easy.

It should have been, but BCCI was essentially stabbed in the back by Lodha, which allowed Indian cricket to be stabbed by the Giles Clarke Faction at the ICC.  Of course PCB was a willing participant in it, and as reward, it got a ICC World XI to play a match in Pakistan.  And this official acknowledgement by the ICC of a totally bilateral dispute.  

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8 minutes ago, Stumped said:

Would make more sense if the Champions trophy wasn't being directly replaced with an additional WT20 tournament that will produce more profits.

The replacement is a one-off.  Not recurring.

 

Edit: to clarify further - ICC replaced the next edition of CT with a T20, because hosting rights were already contractually promised to the BCCI.  The CT eventually will be replaced by a version of it, which will be attached to the World ODI league or whatever silly name the ICC eventually decides on.  Guess who will own all the rights to those games?  And how realistic is it for the BCCI to threaten non-participation in a formalized ODI league? Not very.  

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