Khota Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I have nothing but utmost respect for Harbhajan among all the ex-cricketers. Here he is fighting for Nair and the unfairness of process. Whereas Gaveaskar / Tendulkars have become politicians and helping the Bewdaa get a job Harbhajan is fighting for true justice for nair. he makes valid points: http://www.rediff.com/cricket/report/west-indies-harbhajan-lambasts-selectors-over-different-set-of-rules/20181002.htm Senior off-spinner Harbhajan Singh, on Tuesday, said that he is finding it 'difficult to understand' the parameters used by the MSK Prasad-led selection committee for picking the national squad. After spending time on the bench for six consecutive Test matches against Afghanistan and England, the selectors dropped Karun Nair for the West Indies Test series. "This is a mystery that needs to be solved. How can a person sitting on the bench for three months become so bad that he is not good enough to remain in the squad," Harbhajan questioned the selection committee's decision. "Trust me, I am at pains to understand the thinking of this selection committee and the parameters that they are using for selecting national squads," said the man who has over 700 international wickets across formats. The 'Turbanator' cannot but feel for the young Nair, who remains the only Indian, apart from Virender Sehwag, to have a triple hundred in Test cricket. "I find different set of rules for different players. There are some who are given a long rope to succeed while for select others they don't even get one chance to fail. That is not fair," Harbhajan said. Harbhajan then put forth a hypothetical question. "What if Hanuma Vihari fails in two Test matches against West Indies? Though I would never wish something like that for any player. I wish him (Vihari) all the very best." "(In case Vihari is not able to deliver) so you will go back to Nair but will he be battle ready with confidence for Australia tour? " India's third highest wicket-taker then asked a probing question as to whether the team management is on the same page with the selection committee. "If team management did not play Karun for five Tests, then it means that he couldn't inspire confidence in them." "Well, my question is whether the selectors were able to convince the captain while naming Karun for England series? If not did they seriously consider the name that team management had in mind," he questioned. For someone who played international cricket for 18 years, Harbhajan knows very well how poor selection policy can affect the morale and team performance. "Hope all concerned with team selection undergo course correction before they decide on the Australia tour," he signed off. UrmiSinhaRay, velu, raki05 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 MSK Prasad favors Vihari, because they are from the same state. sandsaims and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: MSK Prasad favors Vihari, because they are from the same state. What has Nair done that is so wrong? UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Lannister Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: MSK Prasad favors Vihari, because they are from the same state. So this is the reason. Gavaskar should be proud about this. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Firstly, this sense less hypocrite MSK Prasad needs to be kicked out from the selection committee at the first place. An utter failure as a player at international level , how can this dumb ass know about the psychological aspects that a youngster needs to grow in confidence and be more and more of a better all round multi dimensional batsman??? Him being in the selection committee is even more of a matter that makes no sense what so ever. Harbhajan is exactly spot on. Salute the turbanator for showing the boldness to speak the truth. Omission of Nair is extremely of double standard nature. Hacks like Dhawan, Pujara, Rahul, Kartik,Umesh,Ishant get chances after chances despite being utter mediocre after playing so many tests. On the other hand, despite having selected into the team Karun didn't even get minimal share of chances as of now. UrmiSinhaRay and mancalledsting 1 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Nothing against Vihari who has piled on the runs in domestic and gives a bowling option as well but I think regionalism may be at play here. No more than 2 Karnataka players i suppose. Nair out, Mayank in. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
zen Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Rahane should have been thrown out .... but don’t have much faith in Nair either and he has failed to make much out of the chances he got it is also dangerous to be picking Thakur, Kaul, Chahar, Axar, etc., as guys like Bhajji will talk about them being treated unfairly too First we have to be fair to Ind cricket, then players diehardpacer, SK_IH, sandsaims and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
raki05 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Khota said: I have nothing but utmost respect for Harbhajan among all the ex-cricketers. Here he is fighting for Nair and the unfairness of process. Whereas Gaveaskar / Tendulkars have become politicians and helping the Bewdaa get a job Harbhajan is fighting for true justice for nair. he makes valid points: http://www.rediff.com/cricket/report/west-indies-harbhajan-lambasts-selectors-over-different-set-of-rules/20181002.htm Senior off-spinner Harbhajan Singh, on Tuesday, said that he is finding it 'difficult to understand' the parameters used by the MSK Prasad-led selection committee for picking the national squad. After spending time on the bench for six consecutive Test matches against Afghanistan and England, the selectors dropped Karun Nair for the West Indies Test series. "This is a mystery that needs to be solved. How can a person sitting on the bench for three months become so bad that he is not good enough to remain in the squad," Harbhajan questioned the selection committee's decision. "Trust me, I am at pains to understand the thinking of this selection committee and the parameters that they are using for selecting national squads," said the man who has over 700 international wickets across formats. The 'Turbanator' cannot but feel for the young Nair, who remains the only Indian, apart from Virender Sehwag, to have a triple hundred in Test cricket. "I find different set of rules for different players. There are some who are given a long rope to succeed while for select others they don't even get one chance to fail. That is not fair," Harbhajan said. Harbhajan then put forth a hypothetical question. "What if Hanuma Vihari fails in two Test matches against West Indies? Though I would never wish something like that for any player. I wish him (Vihari) all the very best." "(In case Vihari is not able to deliver) so you will go back to Nair but will he be battle ready with confidence for Australia tour? " India's third highest wicket-taker then asked a probing question as to whether the team management is on the same page with the selection committee. "If team management did not play Karun for five Tests, then it means that he couldn't inspire confidence in them." "Well, my question is whether the selectors were able to convince the captain while naming Karun for England series? If not did they seriously consider the name that team management had in mind," he questioned. For someone who played international cricket for 18 years, Harbhajan knows very well how poor selection policy can affect the morale and team performance. "Hope all concerned with team selection undergo course correction before they decide on the Australia tour," he signed off. I think this management has clear issue with Bangalore players, even Rahul get same kind of treatment in odi and only lately he has been getting regular chances in test. May be something to do with Kumble saga and people endorsed by him. coffee_rules, UrmiSinhaRay and diehardpacer 1 1 1 Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 if they are good enough I don't mind having XI players from Karnataka or any other state....needs of the team come first. UrmiSinhaRay, raki05 and Stradlater 1 2 Link to comment
Brainfade Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) Hilarious thread. Who was the chief selector who put Nair in the XVIII for the first 3 tests? MSKP. **This** was the big mistake he made because Nair was not lighting it up in FC cricket after the test 300. During the same period, GHV (along with Shaw and Agarwal) have been piling on the runs, especially in A cricket. Based on this, GHV was sent for tests 4 and 5. Once this happened, it is out of MSKP's hands and into VK and RJS' jurisdiction. They picked GHV and he looked good against a quality attack. It's time for KN to let his bat, not Harbhajan Singh, do the talking for him. Pile on the runs, leave no doubt. Edited October 2, 2018 by Brainfade diehardpacer and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
nevada Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 To be fair, Nair looked pretty ordinary against pace in the home series against Australia. While the selectors might have included him in the squad based on his domestic form, team management seems to have taken a dim view about his prospects and didn't bother to pick him at all. That being said, I feel they should have tried him for one match just to confirm to themselves that he is not worthy of a spot in the X1. Or they should have fought to not have him in the squad in the first place. diehardpacer and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 47 minutes ago, nevada said: To be fair, Nair looked pretty ordinary against pace in the home series against Australia. While the selectors might have included him in the squad based on his domestic form, team management seems to have taken a dim view about his prospects and didn't bother to pick him at all. That being said, I feel they should have tried him for one match just to confirm to themselves that he is not worthy of a spot in the X1. Or they should have fought to not have him in the squad in the first place. If the team management feels he is ordinary, he will rightly prove himself to be ordianary if given a few more chances. But now that he is selected , he deserves a few more chances. UrmiSinhaRay, diehardpacer and Lannister 1 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 3 hours ago, coffee_rules said: MSK Prasad favors Vihari, because they are from the same state. How? Wasnt Nair got picked for England tour and Vihari was only a replacement. diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
sandsaims Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Nair hasnt done much after his 300 and to add to it he drops a lot of catches and laughs about it. UrmiSinhaRay and diehardpacer 1 1 Link to comment
sandsaims Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Nair hasnt done too well on the A tours either. diehardpacer and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
sandsaims Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said: Then how come Vihari started ahead of Nair when Nair was next in line? That was the team managements decision, MSK doesnt have anything to do with that. MSK is a terrible selector but this is not of regionlism. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said: Then how come Vihari started ahead of Nair when Nair was next in line? because Vihari impressed Kohli and Shashtri UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Lannister Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 33 minutes ago, rkt.india said: How? Wasnt Nair got picked for England tour and Vihari was only a replacement. Vihari was playing his first 'A' tour at that point of time. Ofcourse, they couldn't have him at the beginning of the England series. It would look suspicious. How many opportunities did Nair got after he made that 300? How many players have even scored 300 for India? Did they give similar treatment to the likes of Dhawan and Rahane when they were failing series after series? It took 5-6 years to oust Dhawan from Test team after repeated failures and it only took couple of games to oust Nair. Didn't Kohli also fail in the England first tour? UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
kosingh Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Nair's recent innings from cricinfo: He is not making a strong case based on current form. diehardpacer, zen and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Brainfade said: . Who was the chief selector who put Nair in the XVIII for the first 3 tests? MSKP. Yes ... Nair was chosen in the squad for all 5 tests in England by the selectors while Rohit was dropped. The TM preferred to play Vihari ahead of Nair, who came in just for the last 2 tests. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
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