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with an effective range of 600 km and 36 Rafale delivery to start from next year, i think Pakistan should shut down their air force lol

 

 

 

s-400 wont help  beyond a point against China..its pak specific..China will move long haul 2000km plus aircrafts and keep bombarding advance air fields and deduce a stale mate in the border.

 

against china you need overwhelming air fire power...by virtue of our denser air defence and air fields in the initial weeks  India will get air superiority over tibet but to use it and prevent movement of  anti aircraft missile batteries into tibet and eventual stalemate, India needs rapid moving mountain terrain infantry units and lots of logistics infra improvement - like how will theater supply and logistics happen ? how will weapons work in tibet in cold and low pressure..etc..At the moment we suck in it ( we do not have a hammer, second mountain infantry was not raised it was put on hold), so its basically initial air superiority, stale mate with infantry in the himalayas then extended shelling and missile barrage from China, India scrambling to cover and safeguard its assets, loosing lots of advance air fields to bombardment wrt to China..much the same **** , eventually if it gets drawn out, our soldiers against theirs but they have more close air support as they have lot more helicopters, some places are advantageous as ours go  higher but India has very few helicopters.

 

dreadful scenario..need like 150 rafales and 300 tejas to completely anhilate tibet antiair defences in the first few weeks, else with china India is toast from weak 4-5.

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1 hour ago, Vilander said:

s-400 wont help  beyond a point against China..its pak specific..China will move long haul 2000km plus aircrafts and keep bombarding advance air fields and deduce a stale mate in the border.

 

against china you need overwhelming air fire power...by virtue of our denser air defence and air fields in the initial weeks  India will get air superiority over tibet but to use it and prevent movement of  anti aircraft missile batteries into tibet and eventual stalemate, India needs rapid moving mountain terrain infantry units and lots of logistics infra improvement - like how will theater supply and logistics happen ? how will weapons work in tibet in cold and low pressure..etc..At the moment we suck in it ( we do not have a hammer, second mountain infantry was not raised it was put on hold), so its basically initial air superiority, stale mate with infantry in the himalayas then extended shelling and missile barrage from China, India scrambling to cover and safeguard its assets, loosing lots of advance air fields to bombardment wrt to China..much the same **** , eventually if it gets drawn out, our soldiers against theirs but they have more close air support as they have lot more helicopters, some places are advantageous as ours go  higher but India has very few helicopters.

 

dreadful scenario..need like 150 rafales and 300 tejas to completely anhilate tibet antiair defences in the first few weeks, else with china India is toast from weak 4-5.

i was talking about pakistan too, not china. for china, we need to massively upgrade the air force. 

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i was talking about pakistan too, not china. for china, we need to massively upgrade the air force. 

Yeah with their older block f16 and new junk fighters..the glorified mig21 copy jf17 ..they will be hard pressed against the s400.

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1 hour ago, Vilander said:

Yeah with their older block f16 and new junk fighters..the glorified mig21 copy jf17 ..they will be hard pressed against the s400.

cheenis are wily customer. in the event of indo-pak war, they will just sit back and protect their interests unless pak gives up gilgit baltistan. they didn't help them in kargil nor will they help now.

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S400 is nothing but official declaratiin of no fly zone over Pakistan in event of a war. Its right deterrent.

 

China and India has no parity. But unlike Pakistan, we trade. There is no chance of war as long as we trade

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Yamima Shaheen said:

Does it mean India believe in the Pakistan military and missile hype?

what hype ? do you even have a military or missiles ? smell the Indian coffee, they all are chinese maal and dewali kay pathakhay. In time of war, they will not launch becoz there expiry dates will be over. you have only 24 F-16s, and few dewali kay pathakhay. thats all you have. 

you are just a cake walk for Indian Army/Airforce/Navy. its only takes couple of days to hold Pakland. India can make you nuclear wasteland. Its only a matter of time. just wait and watch. 

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4 hours ago, KeyboardWarrior said:

what hype ? do you even have a military or missiles ? smell the Indian coffee, they all are chinese maal and dewali kay pathakhay. In time of war, they will not launch becoz there expiry dates will be over. you have only 24 F-16s, and few dewali kay pathakhay. thats all you have. 

you are just a cake walk for Indian Army/Airforce/Navy. its only takes couple of days to hold Pakland. India can make you nuclear wasteland. Its only a matter of time. just wait and watch. 

Lol no wonder you lost so many wars. 

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6 hours ago, KeyboardWarrior said:

yup, just like when you inducted the s-300 SAMs. LOL @ no-fly Jone.. :cantstop:

S-300 were for protecting main Indian cities from missile threats. In fact, nobody knows for sure if we ever had S-300 in first place because of the expensive nature of the system.  However, S-400 will be deployed at the border either in Jalandhar or Amritsar and somewhere in Northern Rajasthan. Try having even of your obsolete F-16s or those Rehashed Mig-21s called JF-17 fly anywhere the border. 

 

You can keep LOL-ing all you want. Just don’t forget to wear your adult diapers when S-400 is fully deployed in the next 5 years

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5 hours ago, FischerTal said:

S-300 were for protecting main Indian cities from missile threats. In fact, nobody knows for sure if we ever had S-300 in first place because of the expensive nature of the system.  However, S-400 will be deployed at the border either in Jalandhar or Amritsar and somewhere in Northern Rajasthan. Try having even of your obsolete F-16s or those Rehashed Mig-21s called JF-17 fly anywhere the border. 

 

You can keep LOL-ing all you want. Just don’t forget to wear your adult diapers when S-400 is fully deployed in the next 5 years

chutiyapa at its best. a person who doesnt even knw about they have s-300 system talking about war gaming. well, let me tell you something, you have s-300 system,

and chinese also got s-400 from russia for some purpose.. what do you think they gonna do with it ? to deploy all s-400s on borders ? do you think they afraid of india ? guess, we will know in future..

no SAM system is perfect. not even what US have.. 

talking about crossing borders, you cant even cross pakistani borders now having Su-30s or even Rafales in future.. 

so, why dont you try to cross the border of pakistan, thn we will see who will be LOLing from Border.. just like 2001/2 standoff  ... :winky: 

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25 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said:

chutiyapa at its best. a person who doesnt even knw about they have s-300 system talking about war gaming. well, let me tell you something, you have s-300 system,

and chinese also got s-400 from russia for some purpose.. what do you think they gonna do with it ? to deploy all s-400s on borders ? do you think they afraid of india ? guess, we will know in future..

no SAM system is perfect. not even what US have.. 

talking about crossing borders, you cant even cross pakistani borders now having Su-30s or even Rafales in future.. 

so, why dont you try to cross the border of pakistan, thn we will see who will be LOLing from Border.. just like 2001/2 standoff  ... :winky: 

China will never go to war with India. Too many trade interests.

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On October 6, 2018 at 8:22 AM, KeyboardWarrior said:

chutiyapa at its best. a person who doesnt even knw about they have s-300 system talking about war gaming. well, let me tell you something, you have s-300 system,

and chinese also got s-400 from russia for some purpose.. what do you think they gonna do with it ? to deploy all s-400s on borders ? do you think they afraid of india ? guess, we will know in future..

no SAM system is perfect. not even what US have.. 

talking about crossing borders, you cant even cross pakistani borders now having Su-30s or even Rafales in future.. 

so, why dont you try to cross the border of pakistan, thn we will see who will be LOLing from Border.. just like 2001/2 standoff  ... :winky: 

we never deployed S-300 at the border dunce. it was meant to serve a defensive role, if it was ever bought in the first place. there is no credible source that confirms if India had ever bought the system in the first place. We may have bought individual components of the system to help with our indigenous Ballistic Missile Defense project. 

 

we will know in future what we knew during kargil. despite getting pounded from an army climbing up to the top, you people still think of your army as an invincible group of human beings who can never be defeated, despite a history of losing over and over again. 

 

we crossed your borders in every single war known to mankind.heck we just crossed over last week to avenge our martyred BSF constable. Para SF were LOL-ing continuously just like the Ghatak platoons who give them cover fire. 

 

 To take on your obsolete F-16s and chinese second hand Migs, we dont needs Su-30 or Rafale. Jaguars and Mig-29 are enough to take on your second-hand Air Force. 

 

just 2 days ago, our sniper took out your Mard-e-Momin, but ISPR will never admit to his death. thats the kind of loser army you have which will not even accept its own soldiers death. 

 

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we never deployed S-300 at the border dunce. it was meant to serve a defensive role, if it was ever bought in the first place. there is no credible source that confirms if India had ever bought the system in the first place. We may have bought individual components of the system to help with our indigenous Ballistic Missile Defense project. 

 

we will know in future what we knew during kargil. despite getting pounded from an army climbing up to the top, you people still think of your army as an invincible group of human beings who can never be defeated, despite a history of losing over and over again. 

 

we crossed your borders in every single war known to mankind.heck we just crossed over last week to avenge our martyred BSF constable. Para SF were LOL-ing continuously just like the Ghatak platoons who give them cover fire. 

 

 To take on your obsolete F-16s and chinese second hand Migs, we dont needs Su-30 or Rafale. Jaguars and Mig-29 are enough to take on your second-hand Air Force. 

 

just 2 days ago, our sniper took out your Mard-e-Momin, but ISPR will never admit to his death. thats the kind of loser army you have which will not even accept its own soldiers death. 

 

 

if you dont know anything about deploying s-300 thn dont talk sh1t. first get some info thn talk to me.

 

aur tu phir pagla gaya hay, teray ko phir kargil ki yaad sata rahi hai. 

 

India suffered 1874 casualties without fighting a war

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/India-suffered-1874-casualties-without-fighting-a-war/articleshow/45016284.cms

 

 

ye lay beta taja taja khabar teray liay.. 

 

Data Shows Modi's Policy of 'Ten Bullets for Every One' Has Increased BSF Casualties

 

https://thewire.in/security/for-all-of-indias-ten-bullets-for-every-one-talk-cross-border-firing-has-only-increased

 

last but not least dont forgt our BAT force is doing continuously surgical strikes on LOC from last 10 years.

LOL @ Last week and Para SF / Ghatak Flatooon..

 

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