Prithvi Shaw should be India’s first choice opener for Australia tour: Dilip Vengsarkar

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Former India cricketer Dilip Vengsarkar feels debutant Prithvi Shaw should be India’s first-choice opener for the Test series against Australia. Shaw made his international and Test debut on Thursday and announced himself in style by scoring a 99-ball hundred against the Windies on Day 1 of the first Test in Rajkot. The 18-year old was eventually dismissed for 134, a knock which included as many as 19 fours.

 

Prithvi Shaw made the headlines as a 14-year old boy when he smashed a record individual score of 546 for his school Rizvi Springfield in the Harris Shield. Within a few years, Shaw made his Ranji debut for Mumbai and earlier this year led the India U19 team to a World Cup victory in New Zealand. The youngster even earned a national call-up for the final two Tests against England, but had to wait for the Windies series to receive his maiden Test cap.

 

Quite expectantly, Dilip Vengsarkar was all praises for the youngster. “As an 18-year-old he has no baggage to carry. He has shown tremendous potential and is matured way beyond his years,” he was quoted as saying in Hindustan Times. Vengsarkar was, in fact, the Mumbai Cricket Association (MCA) vice-president when Prithvi broke into the Mumbai Ranji side last year.

Vengsarkar calls for selectors to show faith in Shaw’s ability

After his ton against the Windies, Vengsarkar feels that Shaw should be India’s first-choice opener when India tour Australia later this year and has urged the selection committee to show “faith in his ability”.

Meanwhile, Milind Rege, who earlier headed the Mumbai selection committee, said, “What impressed me the most was that he wasn’t afraid to play shots. He was different from the others. I consulted Rahul Dravid at length about his opinion on Prithvi. He told me to take a chance as he has all the requisites.”

 

Chandrakant Pandit was the coach when Prithvi Shaw made his Mumbai debut, who said he was happy with the fact that the youngster didn’t change his approach. “What I liked about him was the way he was batting today. He used to bat in similar fashion when he was 12-13-year-old when I was the Director of the MCA Academy. Some players change their approach when they play at a higher level but Prithvi has maintained the same.”

 

[zen]

Mumbai lobby can now dump Rahane and rightly focus on Shaw  

[coffee_rules]

Something that other teams' players should learn how the Mumbai lobby operates, relentless plugging of it's players by their ex-cricketers. Rahul Dravid never goes around giving lip-service Rahul/Nair or Pandey as forcefully as Mumbai former players, it is nauseating sometimes. They feel that only their players are entitled to National service and rest all come secondary. On a pitch where even Jadeja scored a 100, he wants to showcase Shaw's talent. The same was to done to the Most tailunted player in recent times in the MO!

[zen]

10 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Something that other teams' players should learn how the Mumbai lobby operates, relentless plugging of it's players by their ex-cricketers. Rahul Dravid never goes around giving lip-service Rahul/Nair or Pandey as forcefully as Mumbai former players, it is nauseating sometimes. They feel that only their players are entitled to National service and rest all come secondary. On a pitch where even Jadeja scored a 100, he wants to showcase Shaw's talent. The same was to done to the Most tailunted player in recent times in the MO!

Some of the guys coming out of Mumbai are good though. Shaw looks promising. Rohit is good in ODIs .... however, what is disappointing is that they root for the players even when they become TTFs  

[Vilander]

lol what a moron..the less he speaks the better for Shaw

[sandeep]

39 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Something that other teams' players should learn how the Mumbai lobby operates, relentless plugging of it's players by their ex-cricketers. Rahul Dravid never goes around giving lip-service Rahul/Nair or Pandey as forcefully as Mumbai former players, it is nauseating sometimes. They feel that only their players are entitled to National service and rest all come secondary. On a pitch where even Jadeja scored a 100, he wants to showcase Shaw's talent. The same was to done to the Most tailunted player in recent times in the MO!

What's nauseating is your confirmation bias.  

 

You should ask Rahul Dravid about his thoughts on the "Mumbai lobby".  Well before he became the India 'A' coach, the Bombay cricket association used to regularly seek him out and get his thoughts on their young and upcoming batsmen.  Dravid is on record saying this and appreciating how the Bombay Cricket community knows and appreciates quality talent and puts in time and effort in polishing their young ones.

 

When an Ajit Agarkar goes on record and advocates for Rishabh Pant - a player from Rourkee, playing Ranji cricket for Delhi - over MS Dhoni, is he acting as the so-called "Mumbai lobby"? 

 

Vengsarkar is a former national selector - mind you, a national selector who pushed for selecting a young Virat Kohli ahead of his Bombay peers - Virat is on record saying this as well.  Vengsarkar is also heavily involved in Bombay cricket - of course he's going to voice his opinion when solicited by a media machine that is hungry for quotes from former players to churn out 'coverage'. 

 

Chandrakant Pandit is a former Mumbai coach who has seen Shaw's development up close and personal.  Why wouldn't a coach voice support for a teenage debutant who has consistently outperformed his peers at each and every rung of the ladder to the national cricket team?  

 

Its way too early to say how Shaw's career will pan out.  He could yet go the Vinod Kambli route, in spite of all the next Sachin hype.  But to whine about "mumbai lobby" when it comes to kid, says more about your personal biases than what the reality is.  

 

Some people like to feed their own victim mentality.  

 

To be blunt, Karun Nair has done absolutely nothing after scoring that matka  300 against an exhausted England team that had mentally checked out already.  Not on the A tour to England, not in the handful of home test games he played against Aus - where more than his batting, his timid mindset stood exposed.  And Mayank Agarwal has a multi-year record of rank mediocrity before he went on a tear for a season and change.  Its not "marketing" that's standing in their way.  Their destiny is in their own hands.    

 

 

 

 

[gakgupta]

59 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Something that other teams' players should learn how the Mumbai lobby operates, relentless plugging of it's players by their ex-cricketers. Rahul Dravid never goes around giving lip-service Rahul/Nair or Pandey as forcefully as Mumbai former players, it is nauseating sometimes. They feel that only their players are entitled to National service and rest all come secondary. On a pitch where even Jadeja scored a 100, he wants to showcase Shaw's talent. The same was to done to the Most tailunted player in recent times in the MO!

I respect Dilip's view...

He was the one who was hell-bent on pursuing with Kohli, when he was young.....Now we know, what kohli has done....

This guy has the eye for talent...

[sandeep]

11 minutes ago, gakgupta said:

I respect Dilip's view...

He was the one who was hell-bent on pursuing with Kohli, when he was young.....Now we know, what kohli has done....

This guy has the eye for talent...

And all this "article" is, is just clickbaity aggregation of well-meaning generic statements about a debutant scoring a 100 - and a kid that has demonstrated his potential and talent for over 2 years now.  

 

To claim that somehow this is evidence of marketing by a "mumbai lobby" is ridiculous. 

[wanted_desi]

If Vihari scored 100 in his first match, would he have made such statement for him being selected at #5 first choice rather than Rahane? 

[sandeep]

10 minutes ago, wanted_desi said:

If Vihari scored 100 in his first match, would he have made such statement for him being selected at #5 first choice rather than Rahane? 

I'm sure there were articles in newspapers in Vihari's neck of the woods quoting his coach spouting generic compliments about his talent and work ethic and how he developed as a kid etc etc.  Such "articles" are par for the course in the pathetic "cricket coverage" that we have in India.

 

And besides, Shaw is a younger and much more hyped player - is it really surprising that the hype machine likes.......hype?  

[vishalvirsingh]

i think Prithvi and mayank are special as they have been scoring big every where , this is a proven fact and hence these 2 guys are sooner or later going to be permanent in Indian cricket test team.

[velu]

i think shaw will do well in Australia .. 

[rtmohanlal]

1 hour ago, sandeep said:

What's nauseating is your confirmation bias.  

 

You should ask Rahul Dravid about his thoughts on the "Mumbai lobby".  Well before he became the India 'A' coach, the Bombay cricket association used to regularly seek him out and get his thoughts on their young and upcoming batsmen.  Dravid is on record saying this and appreciating how the Bombay Cricket community knows and appreciates quality talent and puts in time and effort in polishing their young ones.

 

When an Ajit Agarkar goes on record and advocates for Rishabh Pant - a player from Rourkee, playing Ranji cricket for Delhi - over MS Dhoni, is he acting as the so-called "Mumbai lobby"? 

 

Vengsarkar is a former national selector - mind you, a national selector who pushed for selecting a young Virat Kohli ahead of his Bombay peers - Virat is on record saying this as well.  Vengsarkar is also heavily involved in Bombay cricket - of course he's going to voice his opinion when solicited by a media machine that is hungry for quotes from former players to churn out 'coverage'. 

 

Chandrakant Pandit is a former Mumbai coach who has seen Shaw's development up close and personal.  Why wouldn't a coach voice support for a teenage debutant who has consistently outperformed his peers at each and every rung of the ladder to the national cricket team?  

 

Its way too early to say how Shaw's career will pan out.  He could yet go the Vinod Kambli route, in spite of all the next Sachin hype.  But to whine about "mumbai lobby" when it comes to kid, says more about your personal biases than what the reality is.  

 

Some people like to feed their own victim mentality.  

 

To be blunt, Karun Nair has done absolutely nothing after scoring that matka  300 against an exhausted England team that had mentally checked out already.  Not on the A tour to England, not in the handful of home test games he played against Aus - where more than his batting, his timid mindset stood exposed.  And Mayank Agarwal has a multi-year record of rank mediocrity before he went on a tear for a season and change.  Its not "marketing" that's standing in their way.  Their destiny is in their own hands.    

 

 

 

 

well said ..... it is really disgusting and utter non sense  to come across some of these posters blaming Mumbai  for each and every thing.Even if the topic is about Kerala flood, Mumbai lobby will have a part in that as per these  prejudiced mentality haters.

But in Karun's case  i differ a bit though.... He might have been extremely mediocre off late. But yet, since he was picked at first place and  went on to score a 300+, he deserved a few more chances.And if he is  really mediocre as people say, he  will prove himself to be mediocre after a few more inns and then deserves to be dropped.

Edited October 5, 2018 by rtmohanlal

[Lannister]

Sure... And why wouldn't you. Have you still figured it out that why exactly were you sacked from the selector's job? 

[Laaloo]

8 minutes ago, velu said:

i think shaw will do well in Australia .. 

I saw some highlights and apart from a few boundaries, the rest of the time it just didn't look pleasing to the eye. Very ungainly lol. Not like a Kohli or a Sachin with sweet sound of the bat and great cover drives.

[velu]

4 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

I saw some highlights and apart from a few boundaries, the rest of the time it just didn't look pleasing to the eye. Very ungainly lol. Not like a Kohli or a Sachin with sweet sound of the bat and great cover drives.

 

yeah .. lot many edges to gully as well .. inferior hand eye co-ordination player ..

saw his batting from 56/57 till his 100 , he got a very good defense 

[Cricket_Fan]

20 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

I saw some highlights and apart from a few boundaries, the rest of the time it just didn't look pleasing to the eye. Very ungainly lol. Not like a Kohli or a Sachin with sweet sound of the bat and great cover drives.

Steve Smith is also not exactly pleasing to the eye but the best Test batsman in the world right now. What matters is the runs you make.Nothing else.

[Laaloo]

3 minutes ago, Cricket_Fan said:

Steve Smith is also not exactly pleasing to the eye but the best Test batsman in the world right now. What matters is the runs you make.Nothing else.

Thanks for letting me know. Well you learn something new everyday.

[UrmiSinhaRay]

Shaw is very lucky that Rohit-Dhawan never became settled in tests.
I believe they'll make him to play in Middle order in LOIS but poor guy will probably have to wait till 2020 to get a look in.

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[SUMO]

First of all .... Lobby or not....shaw is a great talent.

This teenager is playing for the nation on merit backed by lots of hard work.....

Secondly, More than lobby its the pride that they take on having a mumbai great batsman in every generation and they push for it (they arent bribing or influencing the selectors directly).