zen Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) Fastest to 5000 runs -> Link Player Opposition Ground Match Date Debut Time Mat Inns Scorecard DG Bradman (AUS) v England Leeds 22 Jul 1938 30 Nov 1928 9y 234d 36 56 Test # 265 JB Hobbs (ENG) v Australia Melbourne 8 Mar 1929 1 Jan 1908 21y 66d 55 91 Test # 180 GS Sobers (WI) v England Leeds 4 Aug 1966 30 Mar 1954 12y 127d 56 95 Test # 608 SM Gavaskar (INDIA) v Australia Bengaluru 19 Sep 1979 6 Mar 1971 8y 197d 52 95 Test # 856 IVA Richards (WI) v England Birmingham 14 Jun 1984 22 Nov 1974 9y 205d 64 95 Test # 989 ML Hayden (AUS) v Sri Lanka Cairns 9 Jul 2004 4 Mar 1994 10y 127d 55 95 Test # 1706 WR Hammond (ENG) v Australia Sydney 18 Dec 1936 24 Dec 1927 8y 360d 59 97 Test # 256 KF Barrington (ENG) v South Africa The Oval 26 Aug 1965 9 Jun 1955 10y 78d 61 97 Test # 596 SPD Smith (AUS) v India Ranchi 16 Mar 2017 13 Jul 2010 6y 246d 53 97 Test # 2256 L Hutton (ENG) v South Africa Leeds 26 Jul 1951 26 Jun 1937 14y 30d 55 98 Test # 337 V Sehwag (ICC/INDIA) v Sri Lanka Galle 31 Jul 2008 3 Nov 2001 6y 271d 59 99 Test # 1884 SR Tendulkar (INDIA) v Pakistan Kolkata 16 Feb 1999 15 Nov 1989 9y 93d 67 103 Test # 1444 BC Lara (WI) v Australia Kingston 13 Mar 1999 6 Dec 1990 8y 97d 61 104 Test # 1451 RN Harvey (AUS) v India Delhi 12 Dec 1959 23 Jan 1948 11y 323d 61 105 Test # 482 JE Root (ENG) v South Africa Manchester 4 Aug 2017 13 Dec 2012 4y 234d 57 105 Test # 2268 V Kohli (INDIA) v Sri Lanka Delhi 2 Dec 2017 20 Jun 2011 6y 165d 63 105 Test # 2286 GS Chappell (AUS) v Pakistan Lahore 18 Mar 1980 11 Dec 1970 9y 98d 60 106 Test # 879 KC Sangakkara (SL) v New Zealand Wellington 15 Dec 2006 20 Jul 2000 6y 148d 64 106 Test # 1822 Younis Khan (PAK) v Sri Lanka Karachi 21 Feb 2009 26 Feb 2000 8y 361d 59 106 Test # 1909 RB Kanhai (WI) v Australia Sydney 14 Feb 1969 30 May 1957 11y 260d 61 107 Test # 646 Javed Miandad (PAK) v New Zealand Dunedin 9 Feb 1985 9 Oct 1976 8y 123d 68 107 Test # 1012 KP Pietersen (ENG) v Bangladesh Dhaka 20 Mar 2010 21 Jul 2005 4y 242d 60 107 Test # 1956 MEK Hussey (AUS) v Sri Lanka Colombo (SSC) 16 Sep 2011 3 Nov 2005 5y 317d 62 107 Test # 2008 R Dravid (INDIA) v England Leeds 22 Aug 2002 20 Jun 1996 6y 63d 63 108 Test # 1613 HH Gibbs (SA) v England Johannesburg 13 Jan 2005 27 Nov 1996 8y 47d 63 108 Test # 1734 Mohammad Yousuf (PAK) v India Karachi 29 Jan 2006 26 Feb 1998 7y 337d 65 108 Test # 1783 Pujara is at 106 innings. He ran himself out a few times or could have reached 5K runs earlier Miandad, w/ the umpiring help in Pak, reached 5K runs in 107 innings Dravid did it in 108 innings For India, Gavaskar and Sehwag have reached 5K runs in less than 100 innings! Edited October 10, 2018 by zen Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 10 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said: Japanese cars are very reliable... Rahane not so much. Rahane is Tata Indica zen 1 Link to comment
Clarke Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 He was way below par in Eng for an experienced test specialist who spent the summer in county cricket. Sure, one can pull numbers and show how he was better than the likes of Dhawan and Karthik but thats just a comparison between Chrysler & GM while we need the quality of Lexus. He better score well in Aus or Mayank & company are lurking around. express bowling 1 Link to comment
zen Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Clarke said: He was way below par in Eng for an experienced test specialist who spent the summer in county cricket. Sure, one can pull numbers and show how he was better than the likes of Dhawan and Karthik but thats just a comparison between Chrysler & GM while we need the quality of Lexus. FYI, among specialist batsmen, Pujara was better than everyone in Eng except Kohli of course: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team England Home or away away (home of opposition) Start of match date between 10 Oct 2017 and 10 Oct 2018 Qualifications matches played greater than or equal to 3 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 11 of 11 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s V Kohli 5 10 0 593 149 59.30 1025 57.85 2 3 1 67 1 CA Pujara 4 8 1 278 132* 39.71 726 38.29 1 1 1 33 0 KL Rahul 5 10 0 299 149 29.90 450 66.44 1 0 1 44 1 RR Pant 3 6 0 162 114 27.00 252 64.28 1 0 1 20 6 AM Rahane 5 10 0 257 81 25.70 639 40.21 0 2 1 27 0 HH Pandya 4 8 1 164 52* 23.42 288 56.94 0 1 1 26 1 R Ashwin 4 8 2 126 33* 21.00 177 71.18 0 0 0 19 1 S Dhawan 4 8 0 162 44 20.25 292 55.47 0 0 0 23 0 Avg of 40! Edited October 10, 2018 by zen UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, zen said: FYI, among specialist batsmen, Pujara was better than everyone in Eng except Kohli of course: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team England Home or away away (home of opposition) Start of match date between 10 Oct 2017 and 10 Oct 2018 Qualifications matches played greater than or equal to 3 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 11 of 11 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s V Kohli 5 10 0 593 149 59.30 1025 57.85 2 3 1 67 1 CA Pujara 4 8 1 278 132* 39.71 726 38.29 1 1 1 33 0 KL Rahul 5 10 0 299 149 29.90 450 66.44 1 0 1 44 1 RR Pant 3 6 0 162 114 27.00 252 64.28 1 0 1 20 6 AM Rahane 5 10 0 257 81 25.70 639 40.21 0 2 1 27 0 HH Pandya 4 8 1 164 52* 23.42 288 56.94 0 1 1 26 1 R Ashwin 4 8 2 126 33* 21.00 177 71.18 0 0 0 19 1 S Dhawan 4 8 0 162 44 20.25 292 55.47 0 0 0 23 0 Avg of 40! it is funny to know as to how you hero worship this hack of a batsman, which in turn not at all deserves a healthy discussion with you in this matter . Every one with minimum common sense know that Pujara's performance for an experienced batsman like him was utter mediocre in ENG.This, especially because of his over all track record in SENA being absolutely mediocre.Yet you keep on defending him even for each and every weakness of him. Edited October 11, 2018 by rtmohanlal express bowling 1 Link to comment
zen Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, rtmohanlal said: it is funny to know as to how you hero worship this hack of a batsman, which in turn not at all deserves a healthy discussion with you in this matter . Every one with minimum common sense know that Pujara's performance for an experienced batsman like him was utter mediocre in ENG.This, especially because of his over all track record in SENA being absolutely mediocre.Yet you keep on defending him even for each and every weakness of him. First of all, he is not my hero. In fact in the current team, I hv no heros .... Though, I do like unconventional / different players such as Kohli, Pujara, Pandya, Bumrah, Kuldeep, etc .... I support Pujara because he is a test specialist (does not play other formats) and makes an effort to do well .... he is also one of the batsmen to avg around 50, one of the best players of spin and has the ability to play sessions If he does poorly and we have better options, I will not support him .... Besides Kohli, he is the best option that we have currently .... As I said if he is bad, others are worse. For e.g., recently in Eng, a weak zone for him, he avg 40 with 1 100 and 2 50s, when SENA specialists like Rahane were failures (avg 26) is good .... It is a pointless exercise to try to defend Rahane despite his failures and criticize Pujara despite his relative success I hope this helps! Thanks! Edited October 11, 2018 by zen Link to comment
SUMO Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 India's Younis Khan ~ very few good innings overseas over long career largely impactless but a Beast @home. Might not reach 10000 runs though. sandeep 1 Link to comment
zen Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, SUMO said: India's Younis Khan ~ very few good innings overseas over long career largely impactless but a Beast @home. Might not reach 10000 runs though. Probably will be around 7-8k runs Right now we only have Kohli who can do well both at home and overseas in most conditions. If we do not find batsmen of such quality (Currently, we have no one else. Pujara is in a level below. Others are a level below Pujara), the home-overseas discussion itself would become pointless UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, zen said: First of all, he is not my hero. In fact in the current team, I hv no heros .... Though, I do like unconventional / different players such as Kohli, Pujara, Pandya, Bumrah, Kuldeep, etc .... I support Pujara because he is a test specialist and makes an effort to do well .... he is also one of the batsmen to avg around 50, one of the best players of spin and has the ability to play sessions If he does poorly and we have better options, I will not support him .... Besides Kohli, he is the best option that we have currently .... As I said if he is bad, others are worse. For e.g., an avg of 40 with 1 100 and 2 50s in his weak zone, when SENA specialists like Rahane were failures (avg 26) is good .... It is a pointless exercise to try to defend Rahane despite his failures and criticize Pujara despite his relative success I hope this helps! Thanks! I didn't support Rahane for his weaknesses any where. A batsman with 40.5 avg: at 5th position with 50+ avg: in 3 of 4 in SENA far more deserves a place in the team than a 49.5 avg:ing 3rd position batsman with mediocre record in all of SENA, this despite playing 7 series in these countries!!!!!. For me the basic flaw in your arguement is that you do not take into account the batting position of a batsman when evaluating batting avg:. Link to comment
zen Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said: I didn't support Rahane for his weaknesses any where. A batsman with 40.5 avg: at 5th position with 50+ avg: in 3 of 4 in SENA far more deserves a place in the team than a 49.5 avg:ing 3rd position batsman with mediocre record in all of SENA, this despite playing 7 series in these countries!!!!!. For me the basic flaw in your arguement is that you do not take into account the batting position of a batsman when evaluating batting avg:. Copy and paste: In case you didn't know: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Start of match date between 10 Oct 2016 and 10 Oct 2018 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 900 Ordered by runs scored (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 5 of 5 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s V Kohli 2016-2018 24 41 4 2732 243 73.83 4195 65.12 11 7 3 281 8 CA Pujara 2016-2018 25 42 2 2040 202 51.00 4491 45.42 7 9 3 235 4 KL Rahul 2016-2018 21 34 1 1249 199 37.84 2082 59.99 2 10 5 154 6 M Vijay 2016-2018 17 29 0 1110 155 38.27 2379 46.65 6 1 3 117 11 AM Rahane 2016-2018 22 37 2 982 132 28.05 2122 46.27 1 5 3 105 4 View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa Home or away away (home of opposition) Start of match date between 10 Oct 2016 and 10 Oct 2018 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 300 Ordered by runs scored (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 4 of 4 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s V Kohli 8 16 0 879 153 54.93 1500 58.60 3 4 1 102 1 CA Pujara 7 14 1 378 132* 29.07 1068 35.39 1 2 2 48 0 KL Rahul 7 14 0 329 149 23.50 551 59.70 1 0 2 48 1 AM Rahane 6 12 0 314 81 26.16 734 42.77 0 2 1 34 0 In the last 2 yrs, Pujara is ahead of Rahane in SENA too .... Overall, in 5 more innings, Pujara has scored 1058more runs. To match that Rahane would need to avg 217 (i.e. to get to 2040 runs in 42 innings) ..... Does not matter where you play that is a decisive lead .... In the past, I hope you were not supporting Akash Chopra and Wasim Jaffar over Sehwag Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Had 1 good innings in the whole of England tour.. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
zen Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, The Dark Horse said: Had 1 good innings in the whole of England tour.. Which one? UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 10 hours ago, zen said: Copy and paste: In case you didn't know: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Start of match date between 10 Oct 2016 and 10 Oct 2018 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 900 Ordered by runs scored (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 5 of 5 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s V Kohli 2016-2018 24 41 4 2732 243 73.83 4195 65.12 11 7 3 281 8 CA Pujara 2016-2018 25 42 2 2040 202 51.00 4491 45.42 7 9 3 235 4 KL Rahul 2016-2018 21 34 1 1249 199 37.84 2082 59.99 2 10 5 154 6 M Vijay 2016-2018 17 29 0 1110 155 38.27 2379 46.65 6 1 3 117 11 AM Rahane 2016-2018 22 37 2 982 132 28.05 2122 46.27 1 5 3 105 4 View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa Home or away away (home of opposition) Start of match date between 10 Oct 2016 and 10 Oct 2018 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 300 Ordered by runs scored (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 4 of 4 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s V Kohli 8 16 0 879 153 54.93 1500 58.60 3 4 1 102 1 CA Pujara 7 14 1 378 132* 29.07 1068 35.39 1 2 2 48 0 KL Rahul 7 14 0 329 149 23.50 551 59.70 1 0 2 48 1 AM Rahane 6 12 0 314 81 26.16 734 42.77 0 2 1 34 0 In the last 2 yrs, Pujara is ahead of Rahane in SENA too .... Overall, in 5 more innings, Pujara has scored 1058more runs. To match that Rahane would need to avg 217 (i.e. to get to 2040 runs in 42 innings) ..... Does not matter where you play that is a decisive lead .... In the past, I hope you were not supporting Akash Chopra and Wasim Jaffar over Sehwag believe in what ever you want Link to comment
zen Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 Pujara completes 5K runs! What a game and way to do it in! Mosher 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Pujara is a test player, a proper test player. He may not be the best or may not have the greatest of the talent, but you will rarely see him gift his wicket. He always puts a price on it. This how test cricket should be and is meant to be played. Laaloo, The Dark Horse, AuxiliA and 2 others 5 Link to comment
zen Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 what an inning .... 123 at Adelaide .... single handedly brought Ind respectability Link to comment
Cricketics Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 This was a fun innings to watch. Those who did not enjoy the innings or say how Pujara is ugly to watch probably don’t have any sort of interest in test cricket. It was a gutsy knock where he put price on his wicket as he played every ball. The determinition to play ball to its merit was always there and that is what it it fun. He pur India in a decent positon. Top knock Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Looks like he was batting on a different wicket and against different bowlers. Standout in the scorecard with 123 against his name. Next highest scores are 37, 25 and 25. Link to comment
WC2011INDIA Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Pujara is a proper test cricketer. The best in this overrated line-up of hacks and wannabes. Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Pujara is a test player, a proper test player. He may not be the best or may not have the greatest of the talent, but you will rarely see him gift his wicket. He always puts a price on it. This how test cricket should be and is meant to be played. how can a batsman who frequently creates chaos at the crease and gets silly run outs more than normal be said of 'not gifting his wkt' ? Agreed today's was a brilliant knock. Infact I didn't expect him to perform this well straight away.And still it remains to be proven as to whether he has improved on his consistancy, of which this series will clarify. CSK Fan and The Dark Horse 1 1 Link to comment
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