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27 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Absolutely.  The white ball won't swing much and the flat pitches won't aid much seam movement.

 

In such conditions, we need pacers who are very accurate.  But just accuracy won't do on those pitches which have very true bounce.

 

We need pacers with a bit of pace and bounce along with accuracy.   And have good yorkers to take the pitch out of the equation.

 

Bumrah first pick.

 

I am very optimistic about Khaleel having all the above mentioned qualities.

 

Bhuvi will be in the mix because of his death bowling skills including yorkers and accuracy.

 

Finding the 4th pacer in the squad is a challenge.   We have wasted time tying Shardul, Kaul and Chahar.  None of them have either the accuracy or the pace and bounce needed for the flat ODI tracks of England.

 

Even Shami and Umesh don't have the accuracy needed for those tracks.

 

Saini and Rajpoot may have the combination of accuracy, pace and bounce.  Saini can bowl good yorkers too.

 

But we have not included them in the 50 over A-teams even. 

 

I think we have lacked planning regarding choosing ODI pacers wisely. 

There seems to be only one place vacant  for one pacer as a backup.. for any injury to Bhuvi/Bumrah or drastic form loss. We will definitely play Pandya throughout or rest him with third pacer against weak teams. I think the two wrist spinners will do well since non-asian teams seem to struggle against them. If we have to drop one then the third seamer might get more chances. Considering all this, we are left with Khaleel or Shami since we don't have much time to try others now. Having said that unfortunately only shardul and chahar are handy with the bat and can land mighty blows at deat....this might tilt the scale slightly in their favor since Bumrah, Kuldeep, chahal can barely bat.

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8 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

There seems to be only one place vacant  for one pacer as a backup.. for any injury to Bhuvi/Bumrah or drastic form loss. We will definitely play Pandya throughout or rest him with third pacer against weak teams. I think the two wrist spinners will do well since non-asian teams seem to struggle against them. If we have to drop one then the third seamer might get more chances. Considering all this, we are left with Khaleel or Shami since we don't have much time to try others now. Having said that unfortunately only shardul and chahar are handy with the bat and can land mighty blows at deat....this might tilt the scale slightly in their favor since Bumrah, Kuldeep, chahal can barely bat.

 

Pandya will obviously be there as a batting allrounder at 7.

 

And we will obviously have Kuldeep and Chahal.

 

I was talking about the 4 specialist pacers in the WC squad.

 

Bumrah and Bhuvi are certainties.

 

As of today, Khaleel is the 3rd pick.

 

Who will be the 4th one  ?

 

 Yes ... Shardul and Chahar can hit a few big shots here and there.  But with a weak 5th bowling option in Pandya, can we afford a weak 4th bowling option too  in Shardul or Chahar   ?

 

The 4th pacer comes in the 11 only if a top pacer is injured and we are playing 3 pacers.   So ...  that option has to be a strong bowling option.

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22 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Pandya will obviously be there as a batting allrounder at 7.

 

And we will obviously have Kuldeep and Chahal.

 

I was talking about the 4 specialist pacers in the WC squad.

 

Bumrah and Bhuvi are certainties.

 

As of today, Khaleel is the 3rd pick.

 

Who will be the 4th one  ?

 

 Yes ... Shardul and Chahar can hit a few big shots here and there.  But with a weak 5th bowling option in Pandya, can we afford a weak 4th bowling option too  in Shardul or Chahar   ?

 

The 4th pacer comes in the 11 only if a top pacer is injured and we are playing 3 pacers.   So ...  that option has to be a strong bowling option.

You are right.. there's no backup plan in that sense.. you cannot replace Bumrah with Kaul or chahar.. need a like for like replacement. Hence Shami might be their choice 

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Also by now selectors should finalize their squad even if not announced officially... Pick your guys, make them play as many matches as possible to keep them ready. Selecting just before world cup and picking random guys will do more harm than good and don't remember any such selections doing well for us. 

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27 minutes ago, express bowling said:

With Umesh taking 10 wickets, I wont be surprised if he is selected.

 

In India, we do not consider format specific performances when it comes to known names.

 

Jadeja made an ODI comeback based on a 85 not out in a test match.

We will loose first test in Aus,no changes will be made,the dumb captain and the dumber coach will select this bowling line up

Bumrah

Bhuvi

Ishant

Umesh

Ashwin

Where barring Bumrah ,Ishant the three will be redundant,Aussie pitches are of' hit the deck hard ' kind,Ishant may bowl tight length s but cant expect him to get you wickets,at most he can hold one end tight,very demanding conditions there would mean we have to rotate our pacers in short spells,so we need good tall hit the deck bowlers,but the foolish team think tank have other ideas,they equate Umesh's returns in India with  conditions in Aus

This was the best possible chance to test Siraj and Saini who could have got the feel in the middle but opportunity was wasted 

By the time we make our combinations right another series will be lost in a SENA country 

 

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40 minutes ago, express bowling said:

With Umesh taking 10 wickets, I wont be surprised if he is selected.

 

In India, we do not consider format specific performances when it comes to known names.

 

Jadeja made an ODI comeback based on a 85 not out in a test match.

Rayudu was selected for ODIs based on the IPL performance. Same with Kaul and Chahar.

 

Now Jadeja was selected for ODIs based on the Test performance. 

 

lol.. It's astounding to see how clueless the selectors are. 

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On Monday, October 15, 2018 at 12:36 PM, express bowling said:

With Umesh taking 10 wickets, I wont be surprised if he is selected.

 

In India, we do not consider format specific performances when it comes to known names.

 

Jadeja made an ODI comeback based on a 85 not out in a test match.

 

 

And it happens.

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On 10/15/2018 at 1:12 PM, Suhaan said:

We will loose first test in Aus,no changes will be made,the dumb captain and the dumber coach will select this bowling line up

Bumrah

Bhuvi

Ishant

Umesh

Ashwin

Where barring Bumrah ,Ishant the three will be redundant,Aussie pitches are of' hit the deck hard ' kind,Ishant may bowl tight length s but cant expect him to get you wickets,at most he can hold one end tight,very demanding conditions there would mean we have to rotate our pacers in short spells,so we need good tall hit the deck bowlers,but the foolish team think tank have other ideas,they equate Umesh's returns in India with  conditions in Aus

This was the best possible chance to test Siraj and Saini who could have got the feel in the middle but opportunity was wasted 

By the time we make our combinations right another series will be lost in a SENA country 

 

There is no way bhuvi gets selected. Kohli doesnt like him in tests

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20 minutes ago, CSK Fan said:

There is no way bhuvi gets selected. Kohli doesnt like him in tests

Lets see, coincidentally it was his injury which kept him out of tests recently,not that kohli has any clue about picking bowlers according to the surface they play on

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1 hour ago, UnknownGenius said:

That's a given. Most players I recommend have that winning mentality and that is why we won Asia cup despite most here saying we would be trashed 3-0 by Pakistan

Your rotten mentality players were rotting against Bd and their leader was leading them with his epic lunges

Pak was swept aside by the two Indian openers had it been left for those dead players it would have been another thrashing

Thank God ,Dhawan and Rohit were in form

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