ODIS: Rohit vs Kohli

[mishra]

Stats;

    Mat     Inns     NO     Runs     HS     Ave     BF     SR     100     50     4s     6s     Ct     St
Kohli    212     204     35     9919     183     58.69     10722     92.51     36     48     931     106     101     0
Rohit    189     183     30     7217     264     47.16     8196     88.05     20     36     627     194     63     0

 

 Rohit is the one who is facing the ball each match bowler has some teeth. While even player like Rayudu avaerages over 50. So average can not be considered as criteria to compare a opener with number 3 or 4.

 

Objectively (do not bring test matches and all). Given the option to choose one for odis, Who would you rather have. Rohit or Kohli?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mishra]

1 minute ago, Shaz1 said:

Kohli

Because he can gift you trophy

[Temujin Khaghan]

Other than batting aesthetics, in which way is RS even comparable to VK?

VK is probably GOAT batsman in ODI cricket. He leaves other batsmen such as RS, Root behind in the dust...

[sourab10forever]

Kohli any day.

 

1. If conditions are a bit tough, you can bet on Kohli outscoring Rohit.

2. Kohli's record outside Asia is far better.

2. Kohli is far more consistent.

3. Kohli has,in the last couple of years, rested many easy series where he could have scored many more runs than he already has. Rohit has used these series to bulk his record.

 

 

 

[mishra]

4 minutes ago, Temujin Khaghan said:

Other than batting aesthetics, in which way is RS even comparable to VK?

VK is probably GOAT batsman in ODI cricket. He leaves other batsmen such as RS, Root behind in the dust...

Rohit Sharma has allready won more trophies than VK without VK in team. There must be something in him, why even a team with Dhoni/DK/Rahudu at number 3-4-5 wins a trophy.

Edited October 22, 2018 by mishra

[Stan AF]

Well for starters I like how much Rohit has applied himself in the opening position. He has certainly rocketed himself into a mean ODI batting machine. I mean, common how many batsmen have improved their averages from 31 to 47 in a span of just 5 years. Thats a colossal achievement.

[Ankit_sharma03]

On patta wkt against less skillfull attack rohit can cause a damage like no one can 

But against better challenge kohli is miles ahead 

 

I wud take dhawan ahead of rohit many days

• Dhawan is a beast in ICC tournament

 

• Even If we see in SENA countries in odi

Rohit has done well in - Eng, Aus

Dhawan - ENG, AUS and SA to this year 

[mishra]

8 minutes ago, sourab10forever said:

Kohli any day.

 

1. If conditions are a bit tough, you can bet on Kohli outscoring Rohit.

2. Kohli's record outside Asia is far better.

2. Kohli is far more consistent.

3. Kohli has,in the last couple of years, rested many easy series where he could have scored many more runs than he already has. Rohit has used these series to bulk his record.

 

 

 

I do not understand what basis You make the statement 1,2,3. Point 4 is hypothetical

The last serious series outside Asia I remember is this. No agenda. I went to check the stats to paste here. If you forget average column Rohit has bigger impact than Kohli.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2017/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=11237;type=tournament

S Dhawan (INDIA)     5     5     0     338     125     67.60     332     101.80     1     2     0     44     4
RG Sharma (INDIA)     5     5     1     304     123*     76.00     350     86.85     1     2     1     29     7
Tamim Iqbal (BDESH)     4     4     0     293     128     73.25     340     86.17     1     2     1     25     7
JE Root (ENG)     4     4     1     258     133*     86.00     264     97.72     1     1     0     19     3
V Kohli (INDIA)     5     5     3     258     96*     129.00     261     98.85     0     3     1     26    

Edited October 22, 2018 by mishra

[Stan AF]

9 minutes ago, sourab10forever said:

Kohli any day.

 

1. If conditions are a bit tough, you can bet on Kohli outscoring Rohit.

2. Kohli's record outside Asia is far better.

2. Kohli is far more consistent.

3. Kohli has,in the last couple of years, rested many easy series where he could have scored many more runs than he already has. Rohit has used these series to bulk his record.

 

 

 

Rohit has 4 100s in Australia plus a 99. Plus the 66 with SRT in a series finale.

And 2 hundreds in england plus a t20 100.

 

Rohit actually scores more than kohli in australia and in england. The only place where kohli outscores rohit outside asia is in South africa.

[Jamadagni]

In ODIs these days, the higher position you bat at, the easier for you, whereas in tests, it's quite opposite. That's why you see every other opener in the last decade has racked up good numbers. In contrast, good middle order batsmen have becom scarce. Kohli has been phenomenal in the middle order, not only at 3, but also at 4, where he averages 50+ too. We all know how Rohit sucked before he was moved up the order. So it's no brainer really. 

[mishra]

6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

On patta wkt against less skillfull attack rohit can cause a damage like no one can 

But against better challenge kohli is miles ahead 

 

I wud take dhawan ahead of rohit many days

• Dhawan is a beast in ICC tournament

 

• Even If we see in SENA countries in odi

Rohit has done well in - Eng, Aus

Dhawan - ENG, AUS and SA to this year 

I remember two occasions where we were challenged. In both occasions it was against Pakistan. One in Asia and one in England. Rohit failed on both occasions while Kohli succeded in Asia but failed miserably outside Asia. Rohit has walked several miles since those failures.

 

 

Point is, More often then Not, Rohit does the job.

[SrinjayDutta]

I will take both kohli and rohit. Why we have to choose?

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[mishra]

1 minute ago, UnknownGenius said:

Easiest place to bat in ODI's is opening

TOughest place to bat in test matches is openeing

Kohli and it's not even remotely close. Rohit Sharma is a FTB against mediocre attacks. 

kohli is the greatest ever ODI batsman barring none and it's an insult o compare Kohli to a FTB and selfish cricketer like ROhit who always starts innings slow while asking Dhawan to take risks so he can get set.

 

In fact I would take Dhawan over Rohit

Why is it easiest. Care to explain please? In odis, only time you can get a wicket is with new ball? So Rohit is allways facing the new ball. Once ball is 10+ overs older, only way to get a wicket is when batsman are trying to play a attacking shot to slow bowlers.

 

Rohit does plays those shots flawlessly

[Nikola]

Obviously Kohli is already ODI Goat.

 

But for the thread here are stats of both in last 5 years.

 

In Odis 95% pitches are flat so don't tell rohit has scored on flat roads while kohli has scored on green tops (don't mix test format here). The Failure in odis for rohit has been in south africa. He has done well everywhere but again those were pretty flat decks and he should have scored one more century (I feel his test performance affected his odi performance & confidence). Other than that has nothing to prove in odis. He has scored minimum one century in all last 9 series. For rohit to become great in odis he will have to play great knock in worldcup.

 

For Kohli i don't think he has anything to prove imo already considered as great batsman in all formats. 

[mishra]

Just now, UnknownGenius said:

Time to get set, field restrictions, ball does nothing after first 2-3 overs.

So you mean to say 1-2 over old ball does nothing. Are you kidding me. there are two new balls and they both have shine and seam for atleast 4-5 overs each irrespective of how dead the surface is.

 

Just now, UnknownGenius said:

No pressure knowing you have 9 other wickets.

 

Kohli is supposed to come as one down. So everytime he walks in, only 9 wickets are left. So he must be seasoned mentally on that part. So what difference does it makes to him because one extra wicket is down? If anything shine is most likely gone or little left by the time one wicket is down.

 

Just now, UnknownGenius said:

Meanwhile in other positions, you have the field spread which means harder to score boundaries, sometimes you have to go from ball 1

Over number 15-50 are easiest to bat on as ball is dead, its not spinning, its not soft, its not swinging, all you got to do is bat sensibly and go through the inning. Just yesterday, Rohit scored 150, he has scored double hundred, in same kind of field restrictions.

[mishra]

20 minutes ago, SrinjayDutta said:

I will take both kohli and rohit. Why we have to choose?

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You ate missing the point then . Choose one

[kruiser]

42 minutes ago, mishra said:

Rohit Sharma has allready won more trophies than VK without VK in team. There must be something in him, why even a team with Dhoni/DK/Rahudu at number 3-4-5 wins a trophy.

You serious?

[Nikola]

17 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said:

Time to get set, field restrictions, ball does nothing after first 2-3 overs. No pressure knowing you have 9 other wickets.

 

Meanwhile in other positions, you have the field spread which means harder to score boundaries, sometimes you have to go from ball 1

So Virat has pressure when 1 wicket is gone? What about #6 or #7  batsman then? They must be considered as goat for handling such pressure.

 

Rohit is only player in team who has ability to bat for long and score at high rate till end so obviously he has faced all field restrictions and pressure situation. Has 6 x 150 scores in odis already and has played till end many times. His strike rate gets better in middle and end overs lol. If you go through stats he has strike rate of 270+ in last 10 overs (better than any player in history).

Edited October 22, 2018 by Nikola

[SrinjayDutta]

You ate missing the point then . Choose one

Will choose kohli. Only because he has a better defence.

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[mishra]

7 minutes ago, kruiser said:

You serious?

Thats fact