mishra Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Stats; Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St Kohli 212 204 35 9919 183 58.69 10722 92.51 36 48 931 106 101 0 Rohit 189 183 30 7217 264 47.16 8196 88.05 20 36 627 194 63 0 Rohit is the one who is facing the ball each match bowler has some teeth. While even player like Rayudu avaerages over 50. So average can not be considered as criteria to compare a opener with number 3 or 4. Objectively (do not bring test matches and all). Given the option to choose one for odis, Who would you rather have. Rohit or Kohli? UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Shaz1 said: Kohli Because he can gift you trophy Ridgepi, Pratik77, Laaloo and 3 others 1 1 3 1 Link to comment
Temujin Khaghan Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Other than batting aesthetics, in which way is RS even comparable to VK? VK is probably GOAT batsman in ODI cricket. He leaves other batsmen such as RS, Root behind in the dust... sourab10forever and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
sourab10forever Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Kohli any day. 1. If conditions are a bit tough, you can bet on Kohli outscoring Rohit. 2. Kohli's record outside Asia is far better. 2. Kohli is far more consistent. 3. Kohli has,in the last couple of years, rested many easy series where he could have scored many more runs than he already has. Rohit has used these series to bulk his record. lunigirly, manu4411, velu and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment
mishra Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Temujin Khaghan said: Other than batting aesthetics, in which way is RS even comparable to VK? VK is probably GOAT batsman in ODI cricket. He leaves other batsmen such as RS, Root behind in the dust... Rohit Sharma has allready won more trophies than VK without VK in team. There must be something in him, why even a team with Dhoni/DK/Rahudu at number 3-4-5 wins a trophy. Edited October 22, 2018 by mishra UrmiSinhaRay, kruiser and Stan AF 1 1 1 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Well for starters I like how much Rohit has applied himself in the opening position. He has certainly rocketed himself into a mean ODI batting machine. I mean, common how many batsmen have improved their averages from 31 to 47 in a span of just 5 years. Thats a colossal achievement. UrmiSinhaRay, nevada and mishra 1 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 On patta wkt against less skillfull attack rohit can cause a damage like no one can But against better challenge kohli is miles ahead I wud take dhawan ahead of rohit many days Dhawan is a beast in ICC tournament Even If we see in SENA countries in odi Rohit has done well in - Eng, Aus Dhawan - ENG, AUS and SA to this year nevada and UrmiSinhaRay 2 Link to comment
mishra Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, sourab10forever said: Kohli any day. 1. If conditions are a bit tough, you can bet on Kohli outscoring Rohit. 2. Kohli's record outside Asia is far better. 2. Kohli is far more consistent. 3. Kohli has,in the last couple of years, rested many easy series where he could have scored many more runs than he already has. Rohit has used these series to bulk his record. I do not understand what basis You make the statement 1,2,3. Point 4 is hypothetical The last serious series outside Asia I remember is this. No agenda. I went to check the stats to paste here. If you forget average column Rohit has bigger impact than Kohli. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2017/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=11237;type=tournament S Dhawan (INDIA) 5 5 0 338 125 67.60 332 101.80 1 2 0 44 4 RG Sharma (INDIA) 5 5 1 304 123* 76.00 350 86.85 1 2 1 29 7 Tamim Iqbal (BDESH) 4 4 0 293 128 73.25 340 86.17 1 2 1 25 7 JE Root (ENG) 4 4 1 258 133* 86.00 264 97.72 1 1 0 19 3 V Kohli (INDIA) 5 5 3 258 96* 129.00 261 98.85 0 3 1 26 Edited October 22, 2018 by mishra Brettcat and Ridgepi 1 1 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, sourab10forever said: Kohli any day. 1. If conditions are a bit tough, you can bet on Kohli outscoring Rohit. 2. Kohli's record outside Asia is far better. 2. Kohli is far more consistent. 3. Kohli has,in the last couple of years, rested many easy series where he could have scored many more runs than he already has. Rohit has used these series to bulk his record. Rohit has 4 100s in Australia plus a 99. Plus the 66 with SRT in a series finale. And 2 hundreds in england plus a t20 100. Rohit actually scores more than kohli in australia and in england. The only place where kohli outscores rohit outside asia is in South africa. mishra and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Jamadagni Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 In ODIs these days, the higher position you bat at, the easier for you, whereas in tests, it's quite opposite. That's why you see every other opener in the last decade has racked up good numbers. In contrast, good middle order batsmen have becom scarce. Kohli has been phenomenal in the middle order, not only at 3, but also at 4, where he averages 50+ too. We all know how Rohit sucked before he was moved up the order. So it's no brainer really. UrmiSinhaRay, BrantFUGH and express bowling 3 Link to comment
mishra Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: On patta wkt against less skillfull attack rohit can cause a damage like no one can But against better challenge kohli is miles ahead I wud take dhawan ahead of rohit many days Dhawan is a beast in ICC tournament Even If we see in SENA countries in odi Rohit has done well in - Eng, Aus Dhawan - ENG, AUS and SA to this year I remember two occasions where we were challenged. In both occasions it was against Pakistan. One in Asia and one in England. Rohit failed on both occasions while Kohli succeded in Asia but failed miserably outside Asia. Rohit has walked several miles since those failures. Point is, More often then Not, Rohit does the job. BrantFUGH 1 Link to comment
SrinjayDutta Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I will take both kohli and rohit. Why we have to choose?Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Link to comment
mishra Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, UnknownGenius said: Easiest place to bat in ODI's is opening TOughest place to bat in test matches is openeing Kohli and it's not even remotely close. Rohit Sharma is a FTB against mediocre attacks. kohli is the greatest ever ODI batsman barring none and it's an insult o compare Kohli to a FTB and selfish cricketer like ROhit who always starts innings slow while asking Dhawan to take risks so he can get set. In fact I would take Dhawan over Rohit Why is it easiest. Care to explain please? In odis, only time you can get a wicket is with new ball? So Rohit is allways facing the new ball. Once ball is 10+ overs older, only way to get a wicket is when batsman are trying to play a attacking shot to slow bowlers. Rohit does plays those shots flawlessly Ridgepi 1 Link to comment
Nikola Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Obviously Kohli is already ODI Goat. But for the thread here are stats of both in last 5 years. In Odis 95% pitches are flat so don't tell rohit has scored on flat roads while kohli has scored on green tops (don't mix test format here). The Failure in odis for rohit has been in south africa. He has done well everywhere but again those were pretty flat decks and he should have scored one more century (I feel his test performance affected his odi performance & confidence). Other than that has nothing to prove in odis. He has scored minimum one century in all last 9 series. For rohit to become great in odis he will have to play great knock in worldcup. For Kohli i don't think he has anything to prove imo already considered as great batsman in all formats. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, UnknownGenius said: Time to get set, field restrictions, ball does nothing after first 2-3 overs. So you mean to say 1-2 over old ball does nothing. Are you kidding me. there are two new balls and they both have shine and seam for atleast 4-5 overs each irrespective of how dead the surface is. Just now, UnknownGenius said: No pressure knowing you have 9 other wickets. Kohli is supposed to come as one down. So everytime he walks in, only 9 wickets are left. So he must be seasoned mentally on that part. So what difference does it makes to him because one extra wicket is down? If anything shine is most likely gone or little left by the time one wicket is down. Just now, UnknownGenius said: Meanwhile in other positions, you have the field spread which means harder to score boundaries, sometimes you have to go from ball 1 Over number 15-50 are easiest to bat on as ball is dead, its not spinning, its not soft, its not swinging, all you got to do is bat sensibly and go through the inning. Just yesterday, Rohit scored 150, he has scored double hundred, in same kind of field restrictions. Link to comment
mishra Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, SrinjayDutta said: I will take both kohli and rohit. Why we have to choose? Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk You ate missing the point then . Choose one Link to comment
kruiser Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 42 minutes ago, mishra said: Rohit Sharma has allready won more trophies than VK without VK in team. There must be something in him, why even a team with Dhoni/DK/Rahudu at number 3-4-5 wins a trophy. You serious? UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Nikola Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said: Time to get set, field restrictions, ball does nothing after first 2-3 overs. No pressure knowing you have 9 other wickets. Meanwhile in other positions, you have the field spread which means harder to score boundaries, sometimes you have to go from ball 1 So Virat has pressure when 1 wicket is gone? What about #6 or #7 batsman then? They must be considered as goat for handling such pressure. Rohit is only player in team who has ability to bat for long and score at high rate till end so obviously he has faced all field restrictions and pressure situation. Has 6 x 150 scores in odis already and has played till end many times. His strike rate gets better in middle and end overs lol. If you go through stats he has strike rate of 270+ in last 10 overs (better than any player in history). Edited October 22, 2018 by Nikola Link to comment
SrinjayDutta Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 You ate missing the point then . Choose one Will choose kohli. Only because he has a better defence.Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Link to comment
mishra Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, kruiser said: You serious? Thats fact Link to comment
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