sandeep Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Lot of chaos and facts are not clear. Prima facie looks like a clear abuse of power and interference in operations of CBI bureaucracy. Why suddenly transfer the officer looking into corruption to Andaman Nicobar? I don't want to jump to conclusions, but trying to make sense of this. Anybody have some good facts on the issue? What do the resident bhakts have to say about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Nobody knows a thing. Government only stepped in today, and this conflict was ongoing for many months. a good chance for government to clean up the system from the top. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Are we jumping to the conclusion too soon? AK Sharma's order that diluted "Look out notice" for Mallya. Few are so desperate to implicate modi while discounting raga, the family and the party. BrantFUGH and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalhope Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 5 hours ago, sandeep said: Lot of chaos and facts are not clear. Prima facie looks like a clear abuse of power and interference in operations of CBI bureaucracy. Why suddenly transfer the officer looking into corruption to Andaman Nicobar? I don't want to jump to conclusions, but trying to make sense of this. Anybody have some good facts on the issue? What do the resident bhakts have to say about this? U r expecting a response for this. They haven't been updated yet on what to say as they have to come up with a cooked up version. For starters, a guy from Gujjuland is appointed in a specially created post of special director, by our white pearl. Now that guy is caught and booked for forging the real directors signature on some cooked up confession to go after some politicians as obviously the greatest one who can do no wrong wants to clean up the system. Here is the link for you with the details http://www.rediff.com/news/report/explained-cbi-war-between-rakesh-asthana-and-alok-verma/20181024.htm GalenSt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 hours ago, eternalhope said: U r expecting a response for this. They haven't been updated yet on what to say as they have to come up with a cooked up version. For starters, a guy from Gujjuland is appointed in a specially created post of special director, by our white pearl. Now that guy is caught and booked for forging the real directors signature on some cooked up confession to go after some politicians as obviously the greatest one who can do no wrong wants to clean up the system. Here is the link for you with the details http://www.rediff.com/news/report/explained-cbi-war-between-rakesh-asthana-and-alok-verma/20181024.htm Thanks for the link, but the article there is also a lot of he said she said. Very messy this, not clear what the facts are. But at a minimum, buck stops with Modi and Co for allowing such a mess to fester at the CBI, and potentially being sucked into some illegal moves. This is the stuff that brings ruling parties to their knees. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 GalenSt and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalhope Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 6:38 PM, sandeep said: Thanks for the link, but the article there is also a lot of he said she said. Very messy this, not clear what the facts are. But at a minimum, buck stops with Modi and Co for allowing such a mess to fester at the CBI, and potentially being sucked into some illegal moves. This is the stuff that brings ruling parties to their knees. This might give u a better picture. https://m.rediff.com/amp/news/interview/under-bjp-cbi-has-become-controlled-bureau-of-investigation/20181029.htm what I am worried is that the future government will use this as an excuse - U did it then and how can U blame us now and the destruction of institutions will continue. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) Sandeep. In democracy , BJP just got peoples vote. So it has majority in lower house of parliament. But, 1. Congress still rules in upper house 2. Congress still rules in Judiciary 3. Congress still Rules in RBI 4.Congress still rules in media 5. Congress still conducts investigation. Dont read the views just Read two news. Just the fact part. And then tell how can Centre trust CBI. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/before-lookout-circular-diluted-cbi-joint-director-met-aircels-siva-in-hotel/articleshow/66518288.cms https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/govt-unhappy-with-cbi-director-meeting-arun-shourie-prashant-bhushan/story-byZ357q411sezDJDiP9JII.html Edited November 9, 2018 by mishra Ironhide and UrmiSinhaRay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, mishra said: Sandeep. In democracy , BJP just got peoples vote. So it has majority in lower house of parliament. But, 1. Congress still rules in upper house 2. Congress still rules in Judiciary 3. Congress still Rules in RBI 4.Congress still rules in media 5. Congress still conducts investigation. Sorry, but this is such utter out and out bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalhope Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, mishra said: 1. Congress still rules in upper house 2. Congress still rules in Judiciary 3. Congress still Rules in RBI 4.Congress still rules in media 5. Congress still conducts investigation. OMG, delusion of this proportion . God save the country. Trump is president but Democrats rule bcos they now won the house. The definition of 'rule' has been redefined I guess. mishra and sandeep 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Lot of these snakes were fed by previous governments for many decades. Rampant corruption was thriving in every single government office. These snakes are now of the size of anacondas and they are not just poisonous but are also powerful. Until this generations go away, nothing is going to change. Lot of initiatives are taken by this government where corruption is completely checked like payment through adhar and lot of subsidy benefits are disbursed online, lot of online presence and officials are unable to make corruption anymore. All these snakes who are still part of the machinery are constantly creating obstacles. Because these are government officials, cannot be removed or taken action against. The only way we can get rid of them is by continuing with BJP for another term at least. Some of the big fishes need to be caught, the guy from MH, Bua & Bhatija of UP, Chara chors ofr Bihar, land grabbers of delhi these all corrupt politicians and their families need to be brought to justice. Those supporting such corrupt politicians first justify their stand why are they supporting such parties and their leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, sandeep said: Sorry, but this is such utter out and out bullshit. I told you the facts. Did you bothered to read those basic stores about CBI. They were in just last 2 weeks. the story you are picking from as source of truth for this discussion is ok, you ever bothered to find out about who the owners of Rediff are and how they made money? But its free media for you. If you have already made up your mind, why discuss it then? Now dont be naive, you do know that UH is for law ( ucc to 370) Judiciary can keep making a commentary on state of nation ( ram mandir or telling off goi), rbi can tweak economy and cbi can let corruption stay in system. Because they are semi autonomous. so you can call above BS but sermons wont make me or anyone fall for it Congress not BJP showed its fangs to judiciary when they decided to impeach the CJI of india. Edited November 9, 2018 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalhope Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The Supreme Court has asked the govt to reinstate the cbi director alok varma. Mitro - How dare they? The judges must be leftists or the Congi-lickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin 3:!6 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 hours ago, eternalhope said: The Supreme Court has asked the govt to reinstate the cbi director alok varma. Mitro - How dare they? The judges must be leftists or the Congi-lickers. So now you blindly follow Supreme court but not in Rafaele? Why is Pappu still barking about Rafaele when supreme court given clean chit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalhope Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Austin 3:!6 said: So now you blindly follow Supreme court but not in Rafaele? Why is Pappu still barking about Rafaele when supreme court given clean chit? I have no clue why Rafaele came into this discussion. If u have questions for Pappu u can ask him directly, unfortunately I don’t have his contact info. Edited January 8, 2019 by eternalhope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin 3:!6 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, eternalhope said: I have no clue why Rafaele came into this discussion. If u have questions for Pappu u can ask him directly, unfortunately I don’t have his contact info. Leave it....we all know the mindset of people like you. Your signature revealing everything about your mindset. Go and google who Tughluq was and what destruction he did to India. Then you will realize how shameless you look by comparing our PM with Tughluq. Anyway on topic, what do you mean by 'The judges must be leftists or the Congi-lickers' bcoz they asked to reinstate the cbi director. This govt has always respected and adhered to supreme court decisions. The only party which don't follow supreme court's judgement is Congress Party as evident from Rafaele deal. Edited January 8, 2019 by Austin 3:!6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 They have reinstated him but have given him no power basically and he anyway retires on 31st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) On 11/9/2018 at 2:56 PM, eternalhope said: OMG, delusion of this proportion . God save the country. Trump is president but Democrats rule bcos they now won the house. The definition of 'rule' has been redefined I guess. @sandeep Rahul Baba says "Verma was investigating Rafale". So Modi told Verma to "investigate Rafale" so that opposition and media can cook up a story and help "Congress" in next general election. While judge who reinstated Verma in his order today was the one who went on public over "death of judiciary under Modi." Edited January 8, 2019 by mishra dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalhope Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Please keep it coming. Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalhope Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Leave it....we all know the mindset of people like you. Your signature revealing everything about your mindset. Go and google who Tughluq was and what destruction he did to India. Then you will realize how shameless you look by comparing our PM with Tughluq. Anyway on topic, what do you mean by 'The judges must be leftists or the Congi-lickers' bcoz they asked to reinstate the cbi director. This govt has always respected and adhered to supreme court decisions. The only party which don't follow supreme court's judgement is Congress Party as evident from Rafaele deal. The bars have been set very low I guess, Congress is the gold standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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