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WTF is going on with Modi govt and CBI?

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Lot of chaos and facts are not clear.  Prima facie looks like a clear abuse of power and interference in operations of CBI bureaucracy.  Why suddenly transfer the officer looking into corruption to Andaman Nicobar?

 

I don't want to jump to conclusions, but trying to make sense of this.  Anybody have some good facts on the issue? What do the resident bhakts have to say about this?  

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5 hours ago, sandeep said:

Lot of chaos and facts are not clear.  Prima facie looks like a clear abuse of power and interference in operations of CBI bureaucracy.  Why suddenly transfer the officer looking into corruption to Andaman Nicobar?

 

I don't want to jump to conclusions, but trying to make sense of this.  Anybody have some good facts on the issue? What do the resident bhakts have to say about this?  

U r expecting a response for this. They haven't been updated yet on what to say as they have to come up with a cooked up version.

 

For starters, a guy from Gujjuland is appointed in a specially created post of special director, by our white pearl. Now that guy is caught and booked for forging the real directors signature on some cooked up confession to go after some politicians as obviously the greatest one who can do no wrong wants to clean up the system.

 

Here is the link for you with the details

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/explained-cbi-war-between-rakesh-asthana-and-alok-verma/20181024.htm

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3 hours ago, eternalhope said:

U r expecting a response for this. They haven't been updated yet on what to say as they have to come up with a cooked up version.

 

For starters, a guy from Gujjuland is appointed in a specially created post of special director, by our white pearl. Now that guy is caught and booked for forging the real directors signature on some cooked up confession to go after some politicians as obviously the greatest one who can do no wrong wants to clean up the system.

 

Here is the link for you with the details

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/explained-cbi-war-between-rakesh-asthana-and-alok-verma/20181024.htm

Thanks for the link, but the article there is also a lot of he said she said.  Very messy this, not clear what the facts are.

 

 But at a minimum, buck stops with Modi and Co for allowing such a mess to fester at the CBI, and potentially being sucked into some illegal moves.   

 

This is the stuff that brings ruling parties to their knees.  

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On 10/24/2018 at 6:38 PM, sandeep said:

Thanks for the link, but the article there is also a lot of he said she said.  Very messy this, not clear what the facts are.

 

 But at a minimum, buck stops with Modi and Co for allowing such a mess to fester at the CBI, and potentially being sucked into some illegal moves.   

 

This is the stuff that brings ruling parties to their knees.  

This might give u a better picture.

 

https://m.rediff.com/amp/news/interview/under-bjp-cbi-has-become-controlled-bureau-of-investigation/20181029.htm

 

what I am worried is that the future government will use this as an excuse - U did it then and how can U blame us now and the destruction of institutions will continue.

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Sandeep. In democracy , BJP just got peoples vote. So it has majority in lower house of parliament.

But,

1. Congress still rules in upper house

2. Congress still rules in Judiciary

3. Congress still Rules in RBI

4.Congress still rules in media

5. Congress still conducts investigation.

 

 Dont read the views just Read two news. Just the fact part. And then tell how can Centre trust CBI.

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/before-lookout-circular-diluted-cbi-joint-director-met-aircels-siva-in-hotel/articleshow/66518288.cms

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/govt-unhappy-with-cbi-director-meeting-arun-shourie-prashant-bhushan/story-byZ357q411sezDJDiP9JII.html

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1 hour ago, mishra said:

Sandeep. In democracy , BJP just got peoples vote. So it has majority in lower house of parliament.

But,

1. Congress still rules in upper house

2. Congress still rules in Judiciary

3. Congress still Rules in RBI

4.Congress still rules in media

5. Congress still conducts investigation.

 

Sorry, but this is such utter out and out bullshit.  

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1 hour ago, mishra said:

1. Congress still rules in upper house

2. Congress still rules in Judiciary

3. Congress still Rules in RBI

4.Congress still rules in media

5. Congress still conducts investigation.

OMG, delusion of this proportion :facepalm:.  God save the country.

Trump is president but Democrats rule bcos they now won the house. The definition of 'rule' has been redefined I guess.

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Lot of these snakes were fed by previous governments for many decades. Rampant corruption was thriving in every single government office. These snakes are now of the size of anacondas and they are not just poisonous but are also powerful. Until this generations go away, nothing is going to change. Lot of initiatives are taken by this government where corruption is completely checked like payment through adhar and lot of subsidy benefits are disbursed online, lot of online presence and officials are unable to make corruption anymore.

 

All these snakes who are still part of the machinery are constantly creating obstacles. Because these are government officials, cannot be removed or taken action against. The only way we can get rid of them is by continuing with BJP for another term at least. Some of the big fishes need to be caught, the guy from MH, Bua & Bhatija of UP, Chara chors ofr Bihar, land grabbers of delhi these all corrupt politicians and their families need to be brought to justice. 

 

Those supporting such corrupt politicians first justify their stand why are they supporting such parties and their leaders.

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3 hours ago, sandeep said:

Sorry, but this is such utter out and out bullshit.  

I told you the facts. Did you bothered to read those basic stores about CBI. They were in just last 2 weeks.

 

the story you are picking from as source of truth for this discussion is ok, you ever bothered to find out about who the owners of Rediff are and how they made money? But its free media for you.

 

If you have already made up your mind, why discuss it then?

 

Now dont be naive, you do know that UH is for law ( ucc to 370) Judiciary can keep making a commentary on state of nation ( ram mandir or telling off goi), rbi can tweak economy and cbi can let corruption stay in system. Because they are semi autonomous.

so you can call above BS but sermons wont make me or anyone fall for it

 

Congress not BJP showed its fangs to judiciary when they decided to impeach the CJI of india.

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2 hours ago, eternalhope said:

The Supreme Court has asked the govt to reinstate the cbi director alok varma. 

 

Mitro - How dare they? The judges must be leftists or the Congi-lickers.

So now you blindly follow Supreme court but not in Rafaele? Why is Pappu still barking about Rafaele when supreme court given clean chit?

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1 hour ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

So now you blindly follow Supreme court but not in Rafaele? Why is Pappu still barking about Rafaele when supreme court given clean chit?

I have no clue why Rafaele came into this discussion. 

 

If u have questions for Pappu u can ask him directly, unfortunately I don’t have his contact info.

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2 hours ago, eternalhope said:

I have no clue why Rafaele came into this discussion. 

 

If u have questions for Pappu u can ask him directly, unfortunately I don’t have his contact info.

Leave it....we all know the mindset of people like you. Your signature revealing everything about your mindset. Go and google who Tughluq was and what destruction he did to India. Then you will realize how shameless you look by comparing our PM with Tughluq.

 

Anyway on topic, what do you mean by 'The judges must be leftists or the Congi-lickers' bcoz they asked  to reinstate the cbi director. This govt has always respected and adhered to supreme court decisions. The only party which don't follow supreme court's judgement is Congress Party as evident from Rafaele deal.

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On 11/9/2018 at 2:56 PM, eternalhope said:

OMG, delusion of this proportion :facepalm:.  God save the country.

Trump is president but Democrats rule bcos they now won the house. The definition of 'rule' has been redefined I guess.

@sandeep

Rahul Baba says "Verma was investigating Rafale". So Modi told Verma to "investigate Rafale" so that opposition and media can cook up a story and help "Congress" in next general election.

While judge who reinstated Verma in his order today was the one who went on public over "death of judiciary under Modi."

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2 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Leave it....we all know the mindset of people like you. Your signature revealing everything about your mindset. Go and google who Tughluq was and what destruction he did to India. Then you will realize how shameless you look by comparing our PM with Tughluq.

 

Anyway on topic, what do you mean by 'The judges must be leftists or the Congi-lickers' bcoz they asked  to reinstate the cbi director. This govt has always respected and adhered to supreme court decisions. The only party which don't follow supreme court's judgement is Congress Party as evident from Rafaele deal.

The bars have been set very low I guess, Congress is the gold standard. 

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3 hours ago, mishra said:

@sandeep

Rahul Baba says "Verma was investigating Rafale". So Modi told Verma to "investigate Rafale" so that opposition and media can cook up a story and help "Congress" in next general election.

While judge who reinstated Verma in his order today was the one who went on public over "death of judiciary under Modi."

I'm trying to understand what you are saying here, but not quite getting it.  

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15 hours ago, sandeep said:

I'm trying to understand what you are saying here, but not quite getting it.  

My point is still the same as i posted and nothing changed. Infact it has been prooven further with CBI case.

 

As an example, If you look at the case closely, CBI got the orders to get Mallya deported only after Verma was told to go on leave. BJP also asked source of Rafale allegation as details like the one Congress was making noise can not be accessed so easy. If you want to understand how serioes Modi is about secrecy, It was during first year itself, they cleared petroleum Minsitry of Ambains crooks who were simply passing secret info to Reliance.

 

Away from Modi Bhakti, Opposition has been crying out that Modi is using CBI for political mileage. To proove this (GoI using CBI), a story was published in media how Modi took regular updates on CBI vs Lalu case to nab Lalu Prasad Yadav. FFS, anyone with history of Lalu should know that this guy should have been behind the bars long long back only if CBI did its job.

https://www.news18.com/news/india/fodder-scam-verdict-lalu-yadav-back-in-jail-congress-says-cbi-acting-like-centres-pet-parrot-1612665.html

Whatever reporter/various media outlets viewed and published in story, to me, Modi taking personal updates clearly means CBI was not doing the job or action on behest of Rahul Baba.

 

Now lets go back a bit (impeachment of CJI Dipak Misra by Congress), and you will realize how much Congress controls the SC.

 

Quote

 

 

Go back a bit further. You will see name of 4 SC judges on basis of which Congress bought the motion. Gogoi, Joseph, Chelmeswar,Madan . Remember the names of judges because you will see they are the ones who now hold all power in SC and will be giving all verdicts in near future.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/12/india-supreme-court-judges-integrity-dipak-misra

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India's top judges issue unprecedented warning over integrity of supreme court

 

 

Now come back in present.

 

Its them judges who reinstated Alok Verma. As soon as he is reinstated, Rahu Baba ask him to do Rafale probe.

 

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/rahul-gandhi-on-alok-verma-sacking-whoever-will-try-to-uncover-the-rafale-scam-will-be-removed-5416167/

 

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‘Chowkidaar’ removed Alok Verma to save his ‘friends’ from Rafale probe, claims Rahul Gandhi

 

I can list case after case, where its clear, how CBI is doing stuff, of which only and only beneficiary is Congress.

 

So what do I see.

Congress is happy to loose a Lok Sbha election or two, But it can not afford to loose the system which is created so that a a particular family can rule. If you still think, India was not ruled by one family or system is not designed to serve a familes interest ahead of Indian peoples interest,

 

Then think again. Answer to yourself. Why was there Sikh riots. OK. Even if you accept Sikh riots as thing of past and people were less informed and blame general population for it then how do you justify,

Ethinic cleansing of Tamilians of Sri Lanka. Under whose orders, Indian Government and system remained mum.

 

PS: I have seen partially them videos at a Srilankan Tamil friend of mine and believe me, I couldnt watch it full

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