So a talent like Rahul has been sidelined for these players?

[Lannister]

We have seen time and time again how (un) reliable these players are in big matches. This is not the first time that Kohli is left to do the battle alone while a parade takes place at the other end. 

 

And yet, we still have the audacity to let a talent like Rahul rot on the sidelines. Why is there such a mentality displayed by the team management knowing fully well of their own limitations? 

[velu]

we should have tried rahul as opener in this series .. 

or at #4 

 

[Tendulkar1996]

I would actually try Iyer.He is performing in domestics and played relatively well in the few chances he got save when he was aske dto slog  after 35 overs in SA.Iyer-gill-rahul-shaw.Neither of these are being tried.Instead we get this buddha brigade.

[Vilander]

11 hours ago, Tendulkar1996 said:

gill-rahul-shaw.

These are good. Iyer is a hack.

[cowboysfan]

Our middle order must be the worst in the world.I don't trust Rayudu at all, would rather have Iyer whom I don't rate.Pant is just a slogger in LOis, I think he is more suited for tests where he can pick and choose his shots.

[zen]

I would prefer Shaw/Gill at 4 but would not mind if Rahul, who appears to be struggling currently, is given a run in till the ODIs in NZ .... it would be up to him to grab the chances. He has been playing international cricket since a long time 

 

In test matches, he is among the select few to play 20 or more tests in the last two yrs but has not grabbed his chances. In Eng, he played the full series but only really clicked in the last inning of the series. Vs WI, he failed .... Therefore, there is not much evidence to suggested that backing him will provide desired results  .... His diehard fans like to believe that there should be 101 conditions to be met for him to become successful and as if other players are not talented enough  

 

Then we play 8 ODIs in Ind vs Aus and Zim where we can try Shaw/Gill. Some folks say that there is not enough time but players make debut in key tournaments too like Zak and UV did in CT2000 for e.g. 

Edited October 28, 2018 by zen

[jf1gp_1]

When will people on this forum understand. Dhoni is not going anywhere till world cup. Rayudu isn't going anywhere till world cup. Kedar will be our no 6. Hardik will be our slogger at 7, if Jaddu is in playing XI it will always be at the expense of Kuldeep not chahal. 

Learn to back this team or take a break from cricket till we crash out in QF.  

[zen]

3 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

 

Learn to back this team or take a break from cricket till we crash out in QF.  

If you are talking about WC19, there are no QFs 

[jf1gp_1]

2 minutes ago, zen said:

If you are talking about WC19, there are no QFs 

Fine then wait till they crash out during round robin games. 

[zen]

7 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Fine then wait till they crash out during round robin games. 

Note that things are not as fixed atm as we would like to believe .... we have ODI series coming up in NZ which can change a few equations .... #4-6 are up for grabs esp considering the recent mesg sent out to Dhoni 

 

Edited October 28, 2018 by zen

[Lannister]

40 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Learn to back this team or take a break from cricket till we crash out in QF.  

There won't be any changes until and unless fans demand for it. They must have already seen the trend on social media, and hence Dhoni has been axed from T20s. 

[rtmohanlal]

Iyer still is a good option for the middle order. Avg: of 42 & str: of 96 is not at all bad. But these morons dumped him for no reason.

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

56 minutes ago, zen said:

#4-6 are up for grabs esp considering the recent mesg sent out to Dhoni 

The message being that Dhoni is still being considered for T20I and they're looking for a 2nd wicketkeeper?

[zen]

1 minute ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

The message being that Dhoni is still being considered for T20I and they're looking for a 2nd wicketkeeper?

Dhoni was always a part of LOI (ODIs + T20s)  set up .... By dropping Dhoni for T20s, the message is that he can be dropped too  

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

2 minutes ago, zen said:

Dhoni was always a part of LOI (ODIs + T20s)  set up .... By dropping Dhoni for T20s, the message is that he can be dropped too  

No. The message is that they're using the T20I format to decide which one of Pant or Karthik is going to accompany Dhoni to England.

 

Basically, the message is that Pant can be dropped too before the World Cup.

[Nikola]

Rahul is too overrated as of now. Let him prove his worth then he will get his spot in all formats. He should atleast save one spot (& that's in tests) if he fails there then he will find it hard to make comeback in any other format. Performing in IPL is good but even dhoni looks bradman there so KL Rahul will have to do well consistently and maybe try to bat at #4 instead of waiting as backup opener.

[zen]

8 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

No. The message is that they're using the T20I format to decide which one of Pant or Karthik is going to accompany Dhoni to England.

 

Basically, the message is that Pant can be dropped too before the World Cup.

That could be the ruse used to drop Dhoni   .... do you think that folks do not know who the 2nd wk would/should be

[Lannister]

17 minutes ago, Nikola said:

Rahul is too overrated as of now. Let him prove his worth then he will get his spot in all formats. He should atleast save one spot (& that's in tests) if he fails there then he will find it hard to make comeback in any other format. Performing in IPL is good but even dhoni looks bradman there so KL Rahul will have to do well consistently and maybe try to bat at #4 instead of waiting as backup opener.

When he said he was not happy to bat in the middle order, it's team management who is speaking, not him. No sane player will let go of an opportunity to represent Indian team. He has already scored hundred in a T20 international batting at #4, so why would he not be ready. That doesn't make any sense. 

 

Don't get confused with his recent Test struggles. He is still a very good batsman in limited over internationals. 

 

But if you ask me, he should bat at #3, and Kohli should drop down the order. They are already doing that in T20s and so why not ODIs. 

[jf1gp_1]

55 minutes ago, Lannister said:

There won't be any changes until and unless fans demand for it. They must have already seen the trend on social media, and hence Dhoni has been axed from T20s. 

Demand for removal of players past expiry date is an endless cycle. Right now its Dhoni before him it was Sachin before that Saurav etc. I bet once Dhoni retires focus will shift on removal of Kohli as captain and Dhawan. Once that happens it would be about Kohli and Rohit to retire or Prithiv to become Indian captain or something like that. 

[Lannister]

12 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Demand for removal of players past expiry date is an endless cycle. Right now its Dhoni before him it was Sachin before that Saurav etc. I bet once Dhoni retires focus will shift on removal of Kohli as captain and Dhawan. Once that happens it would be about Kohli and Rohit to retire or Prithiv to become Indian captain or something like that. 

I don't see anything wrong with that. Fans expect Indian team to perform well. They invest their time and money, so they have every right to criticize the players when they are not performing. 

Edited October 28, 2018 by Lannister