R.D forever Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nikola said: so who will be first choice keeper? dk? DK might not be good as proper batsman at no 4. But going by current form I would prefer him as wkbatsman than Dhoni UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, Switchblade said: Dk at least would play for 2-3 years not going anywhere but it’s pure seniority on the basis of which he is wk batsman but Pant has to prove himself as well and has to make it count. I don't want him to change his approach completely. But he has to start focussing on timing a bit more than power. Reminds me of one guy. Saurabh Tiwary. Don't want Pant go that way. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, Switchblade said: Dk at least would play for 2-3 years not going anywhere but it’s pure seniority on the basis of which he is wk batsman but Pant has to prove himself as well and has to make it count. Yeah we as a fan of Pant's flamboyant batting are frustrated every time when he fails to capitalize on any opportunity,but atmost he has played 4 international t20s ,we should be little patient with him Atleast he deserves some more chance Global.Baba 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, R.D forever said: DK might not be good as proper batsman at no 4. But going by current form I would prefer him as wkbatsman than Dhoni He can be an opener. He is surprisingly a much better fielder than keeper. With guys like Bumrah, Kedhar, Chahal on the field KKD can atleast be used as a substitute fielder lol UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Nikola Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, velu said: immovable object and unstoppable force will be our wk immovable object moves faster from pitch to pavilion. unstoppable for team than opponents. Edited November 4, 2018 by Nikola UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 T20 finisher might be best role for DK, as he doesn't have time to think. Once DK start thinking he becomes useless. R.D forever, Frustrated, Laaloo and 3 others 2 3 1 Link to comment
R.D forever Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: He can be an opener. He is surprisingly a much better fielder than keeper. With guys like Bumrah, Kedhar, Chahal on the field KKD can atleast be used as a substitute fielder lol With Rohit Dhawan and Rahul I don't think we have to try DK there. And DK as an opener is anyways an already failed experiment UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Yeah we as a fan of Pant's flamboyant batting are frustrated every time when he fails to capitalize on any opportunity,but atmost he has played 4 international t20s ,we should be little patient with him Atleast he deserves some more chance That is true but hope he learns from his mistakes. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 on second thoughts i see no wrong in his innings yesterday, he was just trying to play T20 the way it ought to be played , the shot didnt come off but we need such batsman in T20s atleast. Every batsman cant play acc to situation. In ODIs these kind of shots early on should be avoided. I hope such wisdom is there in TM and he gets full backing. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 11 hours ago, Switchblade said: Average of 28 in List A Odi Cricket was bit surprised. Pant's approach to batting maybe the answer to this. He either powers or muscles the ball or shuts shop completely. This approach may work in tests where shutting shop is ok for some time. And it usually works in T20s where hitting the ball on flat decks is the norm. But ODIs require rotating the strike and pacing the innings unless one is batting in the last 7 overs or as an opener. As he matures, he will learn to rotate the strike and pace his innings. Laaloo, Mosher, SUMO and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Double edged sword with Pant. His LOI approach is refreshing and in tune with modern day. Now if he is asked to change hope it doesn’t become a total 180 like Dhoni and start this whole consolidation bs Link to comment
CoverDrive Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Thing is that he is suited for short form games and does not have the best technique which will be exposed on days like this. I am still not convinced by him in Tests (but we do not have many options so worth trying him out - innings like the last Eng test will build him as a cricketer) but he should be given an extended run in limited overs. Problem is that they are out to sacrifice him for Dhoni. He has few more matches to prove himself. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Lannister Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I am not sure middle order is the place for him. He needs to open the innings, so drop either Dhawan or Sharma from the the team. Their batting has become stale. UrmiSinhaRay and Switchblade 1 1 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It's criminal to ask a young keeper, who has played all his life as a keeper batsman, to play purely as a batsman (even in u-19 WC, Pant was the keeper and Ishan Kishan played as a batsman). Can destroy someone's confidence. Has not happened with any other young keeper in last 15-20 years. In 2002, Parthiv came in, got replaced by DK in 2004, then Dhoni came in late 2004. DK played as a specialist batsman for a few years in 2006-08 and that stalled his evolution at the peak of his career. I hope we do not repeat the same mistake with Pant. I hope someone in the team management is speaking to him regularly. On the field he looks lost and not as energetic as a 20 year old should be. Compare his body language in IPL or even Tests and vs how it was in the 2 ODIs and T20 yesterday. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Lannister said: I am not sure middle order is the place for him. He needs to open the innings, so drop either Dhawan or Sharma from the the team. Their batting has become stale. Rahul cnt find a place, pant has no chance in top 3 dhawan n sharma have been excellent , infact they both hve done better then kohli in world tournaments in Odi's U dnt fix what aint broken Link to comment
Lannister Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Rahul cnt find a place, pant has no chance in top 3 dhawan n sharma have been excellent , infact they both hve done better then kohli in world tournaments in Odi's U dnt fix what aint broken ODIs are fine. I am talking about their low strike rates in T20s. It's similar to Kohli's, and that's 3 accumulators in top 4, where are the hitters. I think KL Rahul will be playing at #3 in T20s with or without Kohli in the side. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lannister said: ODIs are fine. I am talking about their low strike rates in T20s. It's similar to Kohli's, and that's 3 accumulators in top 4, where are the hitters. I think KL Rahul will be playing at #3 in T20s with or without Kohli in the side. In t20 we hve to start looking beyond dhawan now Rohit shud keep his place as bastman n next captain, rahul shud open with him and pant can bat at 4 Dnt change kohli position , he has been our best batsman in Last 3 t20 WC Pant have done well in IPL in middle, we are jst panicking for no reason...... UrmiSinhaRay and Suhaan 1 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) LOL,Just like Rahul now Pants brain is being screwed. None of the two are out of the world but deserve in playing 11. So if you can screw with their brain, You can get them out i.e impact overall performance. One kid whose brain cant be screwed with politics is is probably Prithvi Shaw. So lets not select Prithvi despite MoS performance in test series at highest S/R Edited November 5, 2018 by mishra nevada and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Lannister Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: In t20 we hve to start looking beyond dhawan now Rohit shud keep his place as bastman n next captain, rahul shud open with him and pant can bat at 4 Dnt change kohli position , he has been our best batsman in Last 3 t20 WC Pant have done well in IPL in middle, we are jst panicking for no reason...... I think Kohli should open along with Pant, and Rahul to play at #3. Kohli's strike rate will improve playing in powerplays. He will just block others if he gets to bat at #3 and we will be left with par scores like we saw in the last world cup. Edited November 5, 2018 by Lannister UrmiSinhaRay and Switchblade 1 1 Link to comment
SUMO Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Looks like going sehwag/warner way, looks more suited for LOIs but real success came in test. Warner turned around in LOIs later when he matured and started rotating strike better. His superior fitness over sehwag helped him. Pant can do that as well. UrmiSinhaRay and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
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