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Krunal vs Jadeja

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  1. 1. Who should be part of 2019 World Cup



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I have been saying from Day 1 that Krunal should be a must for our 50 and 20 over format. Only if we groomed him for our World Cup 2019. We kept recycling back to Jadeja (Asia cup) even though Jadeja has been part of all our 5 failures in all 5 World Cup. It’s not too late and I hope Kohli sees how big of a match winner Krunall is!!! DONE WITH JADEJA TORTURE!!

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Fielding jadeja is the best.

Batting . krunal is better hitter than jaddu.

Bowling . I still feel jaddu is  better bowler. 

 

Bit i would take gamble with krunal instead of jaddu in world cup for sure.

Also as OP mentioned that jaddu was part of previous world cups.so krunal must be part of next wc. 

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The main issue is ... what is the role for which they are being chosen  ?

 

If it is a No.7 player ...  what is the need then  ?

 

The need is a high SR batter who can start hitting  from ball 1 and can bowl 7 or 8 tight overs.  That is , primarily a big hitter batsman who can bowl.

 

Who fits this role better ?   Without a doubt ...  Krunal.

 

If we are looking for a pure bowler who will bat at  No.8 or No.9 ... Jadeja is a better choice then.

 

For the WC 19

 

6. Jadhav /  Hardik

7. Krunal

8. Bhuvi

9. Kuldeep

10. Khaleel

11. Bumrah

 

will allow us to have 3 frontline pacers in England while still having 2 spinners ... and big hitting barsmen at 6 and 7. This is not possible with Jadeja.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Nash said:

Fielding jadeja is the best.

Batting . krunal is better hitter than jaddu.

Bowling . I still feel jaddu is  better bowler. 

 

Bit i would take gamble with krunal instead of jaddu in world cup for sure.

Also as OP mentioned that jaddu was part of previous world cups.so krunal must be part of next wc. 

its a no contest for the role that is expected from them. Jadeja is a proven failure since almost a decade in that role.

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1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

One thing is clear though. Dream for Ashwin to be part of the world cup will remain as dream with Krunall clicking as well.

Ashwin has a tall pecking order

 

Kuldeep,Chahal,Jadeja and now Krunal

 

pretty sure he is still ahead of Nadeem and Sundar even if a lot of niggles happen along the way

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amidst all the criticism about Dhoni, we should not forget this all time phoney. How has this guy come back in the squad and hold that crucial lower order hitters spot is unfathomable. Once again in the last match, he came and was looking for singles n doubles adn whenfinally decided to hit a shot got out. 

Dhoni, Rayudu and DK need to go for sure, but this phoney should be the first to be thrown out.  

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Jadeja once again comes back based on his Test form.. Why don't we get it. Jadeja's go to show is to plank his front and edge the ball over point.. It works for him in Tests when the field is up and the ball is old with bowlers tired.. It doesnt work in 50 overs when field is back.. the guy is a headless chicken while running his singles... 

 

Frankly, I am sick of Jadeja and his fans.. Jadeja has played 5 worldcups, and not even in ONE world cup game out of 5 worldcup games, he he played as single match winning innings... but we keep going back to his guy based on his Test exploits.. Just when I thought Krunall would be back in LOI based on performance in Australian T20s, Jadeja is back again getting his turn in his 6th worldcup

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8 minutes ago, rahulrulezz said:

Jadeja once again comes back based on his Test form.. Why don't we get it. Jadeja's go to show is to plank his front and edge the ball over point.. It works for him in Tests when the field is up and the ball is old with bowlers tired.. It doesnt work in 50 overs when field is back.. the guy is a headless chicken while running his singles... 

 

Frankly, I am sick of Jadeja and his fans.. Jadeja has played 5 worldcups, and not even in ONE world cup game out of 5 worldcup games, he he played as single match winning innings... but we keep going back to his guy based on his Test exploits.. Just when I thought Krunall would be back in LOI based on performance in Australian T20s, Jadeja is back again getting his turn in his 6th worldcup

Krunal, Gowtham, even Anukul Roy is better than crap Jadeja

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19 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

amidst all the criticism about Dhoni, we should not forget this all time phoney. How has this guy come back in the squad and hold that crucial lower order hitters spot is unfathomable. Once again in the last match, he came and was looking for singles n doubles adn whenfinally decided to hit a shot got out. 

Dhoni, Rayudu and DK need to go for sure, but this phoney should be the first to be thrown out.  

That’s very harsh. Since his comeback, he’s taken 15 wkts@26 in 9 ODIs with a ER of 4.62. His batting in LOI sucks but he’s contributed very well in bowling + fielding. He is not the reason for the losses

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8 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

That’s very harsh. Since his comeback, he’s taken 15 wkts@26 in 9 ODIs with a ER of 4.62. His batting in LOI sucks but he’s contributed very well in bowling + fielding. He is not the reason for the losses

at his position we need more batting fire power than bowling. 

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24 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

at his position we need more batting fire power than bowling. 

Better to accept our LOI unit is a team of specialists with keeper as the only all rounder ( all rounders are at best bits and pieces players only). And that means Chahal and Kuldeep playing as two spinners but only in our last ODI series there were threads calling Chahal useless. So kicking Jadeja is an easy solution. 

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4 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Better to accept our LOI unit is a team of specialists with keeper as the only all rounder ( all rounders are at best bits and pieces players only). And that means Chahal and Kuldeep playing as two spinners but only in our last ODI series there were threads calling Chahal useless. So kicking Jadeja is an easy solution. 

Yes ideally of any of the two Chahal and Kuldeep were capable batsman, it would have been perfect. But this Ind sode anyways lacks the power in the middle order and Jadeja as batsman adds to the problem. 

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My key concern is that Jadeja appears to always trying to be the hero.  He is a competitive cricketer and wants to succeed, which is good, but he tends to put team’s interest below his at times as can be seen from his reluctance to not sacrifice his wkt in the CT final. Or him being trigger happy to take reviews on his bowling. In 2009 WC T20 game vs Eng, he wasted balls rather than throw his wkt away. In test cricket, a team can bounce back but in ODIs, you have to put the team first and support those who are doing better on the day rather than try to be a hero all the time .... a good cricketer though 

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22 minutes ago, zen said:

My key concern is that Jadeja appears to always trying to be the hero.  He is a competitive cricketer and wants to succeed, which is good, but he tends to put team’s interest below his at times as can be seen from his reluctance to not sacrifice his wkt in the CT final. Or him being trigger happy to take reviews on his bowling. In 2009 WC T20 game vs Eng, he wasted balls rather than throw his wkt away. In test cricket, a team can bounce back but in ODIs, you have to put the team first and support those who are doing better on the day rather than try to be a hero all the time .... a good cricketer though 

thats a rather polite way of saying he is a selfish cricketer

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K. Gowtham is another candidate.

 

Batting Strike rate of  129  in List A  and  169  in T20s.  

 

Proper bowler with  51  wickets from 32  List A matches at an average of  25.6  And  ER of 4.8.

 

Isn't this what we need.

 

Proper bowler who can play at a very high SR at No.7.

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On 1/14/2019 at 1:05 AM, express bowling said:

K. Gowtham is another candidate.

 

Batting Strike rate of  129  in List A  and  169  in T20s.  

 

Proper bowler with  51  wickets from 32  List A matches at an average of  25.6  And  ER of 4.8.

 

Isn't this what we need.

 

Proper bowler who can play at a very high SR at No.7.

he is not a bad option, but his batting is very hit-and-miss. he's more of a number 8 to me. no. 7 should be able to bat properly in case cheap wkts fall - this is rare, but can happen occasionally.

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Jadeja and it is not even close. Krunal the bowler is useless and any plus with batting is totally negated by his bowling.

 

People are just assuming the Krunal can hit world class bowlers from word go.I don't think he is that great hitter to begin with, so him playing ahead of Jadeja is ridiculous.

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44 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Jadeja and it is not even close. Krunal the bowler is useless and any plus with batting is totally negated by his bowling.

 

People are just assuming the Krunal can hit world class bowlers from word go.I don't think he is that great hitter to begin with, so him playing ahead of Jadeja is ridiculous.

Krunal's batting and bowling both are unproven against quality teams and in ODIs.  Its too late for him to force his way into the WC plans.  Which is a shame. Indian team badly needs options for that type of player as 5th bowler or 6th batsman.  And Jadeja aint it.  

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15 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Krunal's batting and bowling both are unproven against quality teams and in ODIs.  Its too late for him to force his way into the WC plans.  Which is a shame. Indian team badly needs options for that type of player as 5th bowler or 6th batsman.  And Jadeja aint it.  

yeah, it's too late to fix our 3rd pacer, our misfiring middle- and lower-order.

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Krunal's batting and bowling both are unproven against quality teams and in ODIs.  Its too late for him to force his way into the WC plans.  Which is a shame. Indian team badly needs options for that type of player as 5th bowler or 6th batsman.  And Jadeja aint it.  

Krunal is not fifth bowler, so that eliminates him from any contention. He is not worth a place in t20s either away from home.


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On 11/4/2018 at 12:33 PM, speedheat said:

Krunal is better than jadeja in every aspect of the game except fielding may be but the irony is none of them Will feature in wc.

 

How is he better in bowling. Kruanl is part timer where as Jadeja is legtimate left arm spinner whose forte is accuracy. No one knows how well Pandya can hit international bowling.Jadeja has 3 triple hundreds.

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4 minutes ago, putrevus said:

How is he better in bowling. Kruanl is part timer where as Jadeja is legtimate left arm spinner whose forte is accuracy. No one knows how well Pandya can hit international bowling.Jadeja has 3 triple hundreds.

Some mysterious aspects of his bowling has made him better.

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7 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Some mysterious aspects of his bowling has made him better.

See the red flags for both Pandya brothers is Hardik was playing for India has an allrounder but hardly did played  that role for IPL team or his state Ranji trophy team.

Krunal's batting made headline with his IPL team again it is not like he was hit at great SR.

 

Both are just bits and pieces players, Hardilk has more utility due to his bowling .I  don't think either of them are that must for world cup.I have no confidence in  Hardik Pandya's batting against fast bowlers and his bowling is not that great where he can fill fifth bowler's role.

 

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3 hours ago, putrevus said:

How is he better in bowling. Kruanl is part timer where as Jadeja is legtimate left arm spinner whose forte is accuracy. No one knows how well Pandya can hit international bowling.Jadeja has 3 triple hundreds.

How Many matches has jadeja won in 11 years with his batting? I can only name on every instance. Answer me This. If jadeja is the onl prominent batsman at the crease, what target do you think India has a chance to win? 12 off 15? 20 off 23? 25 off 18? As a bowler too he has always freeloaded off other bowlers. Hes a better fielder than hes a bowler and lol at 3 ranking trophy 300s. We have been questioning his ass for so many years now on how he scored all those with his pathetic batting.

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My problem with Krunal is, he is a pie-chucker. He is at best a 6th bowling option. Not 5th bowling option. Both are not exactly ideal for us. Big hitting all rounder  chahal  should replace them :cantstop:

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9 hours ago, putrevus said:

How is he better in bowling. Kruanl is part timer where as Jadeja is legtimate left arm spinner whose forte is accuracy. No one knows how well Pandya can hit international bowling.Jadeja has 3 triple hundreds.

Krunal is better bowler, better guile flight and control in his bowling than jadja, has all the assets of proper spinner not a part timer as you have mentioned. Still untested at international though he did well in those 3 t20is he played. 

Krunal to me looks mentally tougher  than jadeja, surely no one knows how well he can hit international bowling but how would you know this unless you try him? have you seen jadeja batting under pressure? How many matches has he won for us, seen that drawn Afghanistan odi and how got choked in the end?

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7 hours ago, speedheat said:

Krunal is better bowler, better guile flight and control in his bowling than jadja, has all the assets of proper spinner not a part timer as you have mentioned. Still untested at international though he did well in those 3 t20is he played. 

Krunal to me looks mentally tougher  than jadeja, surely no one knows how well he can hit international bowling but how would you know this unless you try him? have you seen jadeja batting under pressure? How many matches has he won for us, seen that drawn Afghanistan odi and how got choked in the end?

Thats why he was tonked for 55 runs in first T20.He is a part timer nothing more, he cannot finishe 4 overs forget finishing 10.

 

India needs their bowling more than their batting.Jadeja wins contest that by a mile.

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