Is Bhuvi Kumar India's Jade Dernbach in LoIs?

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Those who remember will know that england had a bowler in ODIs called Jade Dernbach. He was supposedly a LoI specialist with various slower balls and yorker and other variations.

 

He kept getting smashed and still played for england for 2-3 years.

 

Bhuvi kumar is similar in LoIs supposedly has lots of variations yorker etc but keeps getting smashed and keeps getting picked.

 

Bhuvi the Test bowler is different though.

 

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[putrevus]

Bhuvi cannot be India's premier bowler.He is useless on flat tracks.They are lot of better options who just need chances.

[velu]

he cant bowl well if he is not around his mom  

[kohli]

Bhuvi is the first average cricketer in world who getting royal treatment.

[SUMO]

He is India's Douche bag

[speedheat]

Jade dernbackh was underachiever! Had really good short ball and yorker which used to dip in late  at good pace.

But got obsessed  with slower balls.

Often he used to try variety of slower balls making a mess of his action and rhythm eventually spraying the ball on both side of the wicket.

But no doubt he had traits to succeed in Lois.

 

[Tendulkar1996]

He will stay until WC.He will get some assistance in england regardless of pitch conditions.

[The Realist]

Dernbach more tattoos than wickets

 

 

 

Koomar wearing lipstick scarier than Koomar the bowler

 

 

[Nikhil_cric]

The only thing bhuvaneshwar lacks is pace. The only thing dernbach ever had was decent pace. The problem with bhuvaneshwar is that he blows hot and cold way too often. Just look at the way a highly rated bowler like trent Boult got smashed in Dubai and compare that with the pin point accuracy shown by bhuvi in the Asia cup. Even he doesn't take wickets, he offers a lot of control with the ball as long as his average pace is around 82 mph or above. The problem is that at times , partly due to injury , this drops below that 82 mph mark and that's when he gets hammered like yesterday. 

Edited November 12, 2018 by beetle

[Adi BB]

Dirtbag had an odi er close to 7 at one point I remember .

And also averages close to bhuvi 

[vvvslaxman]

8 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

The only thing bhuvaneshwar lacks is pace. The only thing dernbach ever had was decent pace. The problem with bhuvaneshwar is that he blows hot and cold way too often. Just look at the way a highly rated bowler like trent Boult got smashed in Dubai and compare that with the pin point accuracy shown by bhuvi in the Asia cup. Even he doesn't take wickets, he offers a lot of control with the ball as long as his average pace is around 82 mph or above. The problem is that at times , partly due to injury , this drops below that 82 mph mark and that's when he gets hammered like yesterday. 

May be he lacks the fast bowler attitude which brings the best out of you. You have to constantly plot the dismissal of a batsman. You have to keep second guessing the batsman's movement. Fast bowling is not just coming in and bowling at 130k plus. It is much more than that. 

[putrevus]

Containing bowlers are useless in odis.Unless teams keep taking wickets on regular basis there is no chance of resitricting scores under 320 plus. SA were three down for 30 early but Australia did not take any wickets till 45th. SA ended up scoring 230 plus in last 25 overs against a very good  Australian pace attack.

 

Bhuvi with his inability to take wickets is totally useless.He will never be able to contain any settled top and middle order batsmen.Unless he keeps taking wickets with new ball he is useless to the team.

Edited November 12, 2018 by putrevus

[zen]

Bhuvi = a hole that can sink the ship

[Nikhil_cric]

20 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

May be he lacks the fast bowler attitude which brings the best out of you. You have to constantly plot the dismissal of a batsman. You have to keep second guessing the batsman's movement. Fast bowling is not just coming in and bowling at 130k plus. It is much more than that. 

I personally think it's only physical attributes that he lacks which matters a lot in the modern odi game unfortunately for him. In terms of skill and intelligence, he's up there with the best imo . If he wasn't a smart operator, he wouldn't have survived in international cricket for 6 years bowling at the pace he does. 

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

I personally think it's only physical attributes that he lacks which matters a lot in the modern odi game unfortunately for him. In terms of skill and intelligence, he's up there with the best imo . If he wasn't a smart operator, he wouldn't have survived in international cricket for 6 years bowling at the pace he does. 

I agree. But guys like Agarkar could be very aggressive even with the lesser frame. Actually, Sir Aggy used to have an average speed over 135k at times clocking 140k. Just that he lacked enough variation. Brathwhite, Holder are much more imposing figures but they clock only 125 kph or so.  But in history fast bowlers with slight figures rarely get respect. i agree. Mohammad sami (pak), Aggy, Bhuvi. 

[express bowling]

On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Nikhil_cric said:

The only thing bhuvaneshwar lacks is pace. 

 

He also lacks height and bounce ... which are often the best substitutes for hurrying batsmen when they lack pace.

 

Consistent movement is hardly available to pacers in LOIs these days.

[vvvslaxman]

This is why i want Nagarkoti to work really hard on his upper body strength. He is also  like Sir Aggy.

[rkt.india]

14 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

This is why i want Nagarkoti to work really hard on his upper body strength. He is also  like Sir Aggy.

just a bit faster

[Mosher]

43 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

just a bit faster

Any updates about Nagarkoti's injury? Know when he might be back on the field?

[Suhaan]

2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

I agree. But guys like Agarkar could be very aggressive even with the lesser frame. Actually, Sir Aggy used to have an average speed over 135k at times clocking 140k. Just that he lacked enough variation. Brathwhite, Holder are much more imposing figures but they clock only 125 kph or so.  But in history fast bowlers with slight figures rarely get respect. i agree. Mohammad sami (pak), Aggy, Bhuvi. 

Agarkar ,sami were too wayward to earn respect

Name one bowler who was respected at the same time being wayward..