ShoonyaSifar Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Lannister said: Rahim is still their best batsman, maintaining healthy average across all 3 formats. Dhoni is not even in the same league. Stop overrating. Is that your style of sarcasm? Link to comment
raki05 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 40 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Sanga played as a specialist batsman most of his career. 100 alone isnt a criteria for ATG for a WK. Ajay Ratra has an overseas 100, he must be an ATG then? But for an ATG for not having 100 across the format overseas is definitely a blot to be called as an ATG. BTW what so special about Dhoni in Test matches to consider him as an ATG, can you please clarify. Suhaan 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 34 minutes ago, SK_IH said: just off topic ( though i have stated before as well), on the highlighted , this is not due to inability but just a quirky fact He played a significant amount of matches overseas and not just test so many odi as well. However leaving all aside how he is an ATG wk/batsmen in test. What about andy flower/Alec Stewart/ who has better average than dhoni. Suhaan 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, raki05 said: He played a significant amount of matches overseas and not just test so many odi as well. However leaving all aside how he is an ATG wk/batsmen in test. What about andy flower/Alec Stewart/ who has better average than dhoni. my point is not regarding ATG status, in WK category only Gilly is an ATG and Dhoni is quite comparable ( better than many ) with other regular WKs who have played the game. with regards to that gimmick of no 100s overseas, i repeat its not on ability. Link to comment
raki05 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, SK_IH said: my point is not regarding ATG status, in WK category only Gilly is an ATG and Dhoni is quite comparable ( better than many ) with other regular WKs who have played the game. with regards to that gimmick of no 100s overseas, i repeat its not on ability. I would have agreed to you has it been any particular country and not all countries outside asia. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Lannister said: At Rahim's age, Dhongi was a crap as a Test batsman. He boosted his stats playing on absolute roads, bashing hapless spinners. Rahim is at his peak now and will overtake Dhoni interms of stats by the end of his career. Dhongi was a FTB,nothing more than that,his only match winning innings was his double against Aussies in 2013 I think this is a fair comparison ,comparing him with bd wk who is better than dhongi but still plays mostly minnows, comparing dhongi with wks from top nations is an insult to them Lannister and The Dark Horse 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, raki05 said: But for an ATG for not having 100 across the format overseas is definitely a blot to be called as an ATG. BTW what so special about Dhoni in Test matches to consider him as an ATG, can you please clarify. Dhongi is a mythological atg Edited November 13, 2018 by Suhaan raki05, speedheat and The Dark Horse 3 Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Mushy belongs to cartoon network...he is not a cricketer. He can play a perfect role of chota bheem in pogo channel. Comparing him to legend like MSD is an insult. Trichromatic, velu, The Dark Horse and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Mushy belongs to cartoon network...he is not a cricketer. He can play a perfect role of chota bheem in pogo channel. Comparing him to legend like MSD is an insult. MSD is not a legend in tests. Suhaan and speedheat 1 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, Laaloo said: MSD is not a legend in tests. He is a legend in tests too. Link to comment
speedheat Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Mushy is better, technically sound compact on tough tracks. Dhoni was great odi bat but overrated ftb in tests and sucked in t20is can't be labeled as Atg. raki05 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) I have my issues with Dhoni but Mushy is nowhere near Dhoni as a player and keeper.Mushy is useless keeper. Edited November 13, 2018 by putrevus Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Laaloo said: MSD is not a legend in tests. MSD is a legend throughout his life. He was a legend even as a ticket collector in Kharagpur station. Its high time you watch 'MS Dhoni: The untold story' movie again. The Dark Horse, speedheat and Laaloo 3 Link to comment
Zero_Unit Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Keeping wise there are few who can rival Dhoni even with his current form. His keeping skills are out of this world. You must be blind if you say otherwise. However in the TEST batting department it's a different story. Bangladesh is known to throw their players in international arena without proper grooming. I would be curious to know how Rahim did after he matured his batting. Big difference in avg? Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 DHoni is a better wicket keeper. Rahim is closer to a specialist batsman. DHoni is all about determination, percentage cricket not technique. Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 9 hours ago, rkt.india said: Dhoni is a wk/bat, not just batsman. So for sure as a WK/bat, he is an ATG. According to your logic, there are no ATG WK/bat because none other than averaged 40 plus as a keeper. Andy flower, Sangakarra, Matt Prior, heck even Mushi have comparable or better average than Dhoni, but still only Dhoni is ATG raki05 and Number 2 Link to comment
Vilander Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I think since its only Tests. IN an other 2 years time if Mush plays as he is playing now he will be past Dhoni. Dhoni was at best a middling WK bat in tests, he was very good in home conditions about not bad in overseas conditions. Link to comment
raki05 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 5 hours ago, putrevus said: He is a legend in tests too. What legend with 35 AVG and no century in non Asian condition. He is cipher among zero in Indian keeper batsmen btw pant already have an overseas century in test. Link to comment
DHONI_FANN Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Comparing Mushy Joker with Dhoni is like comparing an old broken bicycle with a brand new Mercedes Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 44 minutes ago, raki05 said: What legend with 35 AVG and no century in non Asian condition. He is cipher among zero in Indian keeper batsmen btw pant already have an overseas century in test. Who said Wk needs to score century in non Asian conditions to be called as legend.He batted mostly at no7 and 6 hundreds is perfectly fine at that position.He is no Adam Gilchrist or Andy Flower but he better than everyone else. Link to comment
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