All Rounders do not exist.

[Khota]

5 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Wow now we have people singing praises of Binny, I have seen it all. 

 Binny === Allrounder.

 

I am in Twilight Zone.

[Khota]

6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

krunal won u the final games in aus t20 series 

Hardik won the final games in eng t20 series

 

Both took 4 wkts haul overseas in t20....huge feet 

 

Damn we need more useless player like these

 

6 hours ago, philcric said:

K Pandya 5 wickets in the series, the highest among both the sides  

 

MOM in one of the games 

 

Nothing personal but let me tell you, both of you are clueless as they come when it comes to sports.

pandya was the worst bowler for India. He admits he got the wkts because they roos decided not to play other bowlers.

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Edited November 27, 2018 by beetle
No need for profanity

[diga]

Been foakes & Been Stokes both say hello to OP

[Ankit_sharma03]

17 minutes ago, Khota said:

 

Nothing personal but let me tell you, both of you are clueless as they come when it comes to sports.

pandya was the worst bowler for India. He admits he got the wkts because they roos decided not to play other bowlers.

You can go around with his **ck in your mouth but he will still suck.

Awwww

So u cudnt prove it facts hence u decided ull pass the judgement

 

how come they decided not to play other bowler yet ended up smashing

Khaleel more then krunal in one game

Bumrah more then krunal in one game 

 

apne judgement apne pass rkho 

Never ever seen a highest wkt taker of the series being called the worst bowler....

 

Khota logic- Ashwin n jadeja shud be thrown out of ODI team coz they dnt take wkts , to hell with their eco...bowlers job is to take wkts 

after a year khota becomes hypocrite 

Krunal gave most runs,

but but but he was the highest wkt taker

Eco matter not wkts 

 

also Fact tere galat main aur @philcric clueless

Edited November 27, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, diga said:

Been foakes & Been Stokes both say hello to OP

Dono bhooth hai 

all rounders dnt exist acc to OP

 

dnt even try to give him stokes 250 example, he ll call it fluke 

[putrevus]

Stokes is good enough to bat at no3 to no7. Stokes has good enough technique to last on any pitch and is good enough to blast 250 plus against SA in SA.He was good enough to win player of year in IPL.Opposition coach is citing him as the difference maker in a series. Do we have anyone like that , answer is no.

 

Noone is against allrounders .They are against bits and pieces players masquerading as allrounders.

[Global.Baba]

9 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

tradionatlly we had 3 part timers - ganguly, sachin , sehwag

Rohit sharma was far weeker 

yuvraj singh was no gr8 either 

we played raina to , far more weeker 

 

Dude the fact that Sachin,Sehwag and Ganguly could bowl was not even a factor in their selection. It was a no brainer  that they were the best international level bats in the country.

 

It is not like there were better batsmen waiting as backups who lost out because they could t roll their arms over.

 

It just so happened that they could roll their arms over and it was a huuuuuge bonus.

 

Once again proves the point that an allrounder is just a bonus. There is no specialist allrounder.

 

Same for Yuvraj and Raina or Rohit. They were drafted because they were marked for the middle

ordet slot to replace these ATG’s. It so happened that all 3 of them were competent bowlers.

 

 

[Global.Baba]

To respond to the OP. Yes allrounders do exist and these are special once in a generation cricketers  who seem to be good at whatever they do. So that part is dumb. May be it is a misinterpretation.

 

However I do agree that “specialist allrounder” doesn’t exist.

Edited November 27, 2018 by Global.Baba

[Ankit_sharma03]

4 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

Dude the fact that Sachin,Sehwag and Ganguly could bowl was not even a factor in their selection. It was a no brainer  that they were the best international level bats in the country.

but their contribution in bowling was factor that helped captain which u deny and lets not forget we had kumble who cud bowl marathon spells with effectiveness

jaddu can bowl a lot but not even with half effectiveness

ashwin cnt bowl as much as kumble did

 

and lets not forget now we play 3 format so shud we kill our pacer by overburdening them 

We all saw how much bumrah had to bowl in 5th test  and lets not forget 3rd test were ashwin got injured and 5th bowler was helpful

 

Clearly u lack a plan which do not keep in mind injuries n workload on bowlers 

jst to satisfy the specialist ego when apart from kohli none of the specialist are doing their jobs, add more n they wnt be much better either

4 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

 

Once again proves the point that an allrounder is just a bonus. There is no specialist allrounder.

All rounder evolve with time 

4 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

 

Same for Yuvraj and Raina or Rohit. They were drafted because they were marked for the middle

ordet slot to replace these ATG’s. It so happened that all 3 of them were competent bowlers.

 

So dnt say hardik is weekest , their were even more weeker ones at 6 

[Global.Baba]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

but their contribution in bowling was factor that helped captain which u deny and lets not forget we had kumble who cud bowl marathon spells with effectiveness

jaddu can bowl a lot but not even with half effectiveness

ashwin cnt bowl as much as kumble did

 

and lets not forget now we play 3 format so shud we kill our pacer by overburdening them 

We all saw how much bumrah had to bowl in 5th test  and lets not forget 3rd test were ashwin got injured and 5th bowler was helpful

 

Clearly u lack a plan which do not keep in mind injuries n workload on bowlers 

jst to satisfy the specialist ego when apart from kohli none of the specialist are doing their jobs, add more n they wnt be much better either

All rounder evolve with time 

So dnt say hardik is weekest , their were even more weeker ones at 6 

Hardik the batsman is not even fit enough to tie the shoelaces of Raina,Rohit and Yuvraj leave alone VvS and Ganguly 

[Ankit_sharma03]

14 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

Hardik the batsman is not even fit enough to tie the shoelaces of Raina,Rohit and Yuvraj leave alone VvS and Ganguly 

Raina is overrated 1st thing, mark my words pandya will end as a better odi player then him for sure

 

Now since ur logic have fanished n ull come to sidhuism of using lines like he cnt tie shoelaces

 

Raina was jackshit in test cricket n cudnt in dreams score a 93 in Sa on those conditions

 

Rohit sharma - 2 tours of Sa not a single 50 ,1 tour of england no 50

pandya did those thing in 1st tour

Pandya has 100 in SL, rohit doesnt 

 

Yuvraj to was a test failure in test cricket 

 

In test cricket those guys didnt even deserve to wear boots , unke talent ka main achaar daalu jab unhone ne khudh hi uska use nhin kiya test cricket 

 

Dnt even use these names for test cricket 

[Global.Baba]

On a different note, is Khota the 2nd account of the legendary poster “Dravid the wall” . Very similar posting style. 

 

@Laaloo @velu @vvvslaxman @Switchblade

@beetle @zen

I am a newbie so wouldn’t know :)

 

 

Edited November 27, 2018 by Global.Baba

[velu]

10 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

On a different note, is Khota the 2nd account of the legendary poster “Dravid the wall” . Very similar posting style. 

 

@Laaloo @velu @vvvslaxman @Switchblade

@beetle @zen

I am a newbie so wouldn’t know :)

 

 

 

got you

[philcric]

3 hours ago, putrevus said:

Jadeja was bowler of the series in CT 2013 , does anyone here want Jadeja in their odi team.Krunal will get more matches like first than last two if his bowling is not upto to standard.

 

That post was tongue in cheek, to trigger a few posters who are getting their panties in a twist because of Krunal getting a few chances in the T20Is. Thought the two  would give it away.

 

Jadeja yeah .. are you asking me if ppl here want him in the ODI team because of what he did 5 years back? I would say NO because of what happened after that .. 2 new balls, changes in field restrictions, his own form ... for whatever reason his performances for couple of years had been very bad (averaged 40+ or something like that if I'm right), and he was rightly dropped after 2017 CT final.

 

About Krunal, he's been an important cog for MI over the last 3 seasons, digging them out of hole single handedly on quite a few occasions, with BOTH bat and ball. There's something about him which suggests that he could make things happen. From memory, he won quite a few MOMs, including 2017 final. Jadeja on the other hand has been a free loader for his IPL teams over the last few seasons. Does Krunal deserve a few chances in T20Is based on his IPL exploits? I'd say Yes.

 

Krunal v Chahal .... It's about team balance. Fair to say Chahal is a better bowler for sure (he has the pedigree, though he had quite a few bad games in the last 10 T20Is or so). Needless to say Krunal is a much much better batsman who's been very good for MI (Avg 31, SR 153). There is merit in selecting either. One strengthens bowling as a unit, the other strengthens batting as a unit. I personally am fine with either selection. Team India wanted to strengthen the batting and they believed they aren't weakening the bowling too much by selecting Krunal and dropping Chahal. Is there a merit to have this team composition? I'd say Yes. Is it the only way? No.

 

[philcric]

6 hours ago, Khota said:

 

Nothing personal but let me tell you, both of you are clueless as they come when it comes to sports.

pandya was the worst bowler for India. He admits he got the wkts because they roos decided not to play other bowlers.

.edited by moderator

 

Classy !

 

Didn't you just self proclaim yourself to be very humble, just a few days back?

 

Edited November 27, 2018 by beetle

[philcric]

4 hours ago, Khota said:

 

Nothing personal but let me tell you, both of you are clueless as they come when it comes to sports.

pandya was the worst bowler for India. He admits he got the wkts because they roos decided not to play other bowlers.

You can go around with his **ck in your mouth but he will still suck.

 

Irony just died a thousand deaths.

 

[Khota]

20 minutes ago, philcric said:

 

Classy !

 

Didn't you just self proclaim yourself to be very humble, just a few days back?

 

Just trying to remind you that two can play a game.

[Khota]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Raina is overrated 1st thing, mark my words pandya will end as a better odi player then him for sure

 

Now since ur logic have fanished n ull come to sidhuism of using lines like he cnt tie shoelaces

 

Raina was jackshit in test cricket n cudnt in dreams score a 93 in Sa on those conditions

 

Rohit sharma - 2 tours of Sa not a single 50 ,1 tour of england no 50

pandya did those thing in 1st tour

Pandya has 100 in SL, rohit doesnt 

 

Yuvraj to was a test failure in test cricket 

 

In test cricket those guys didnt even deserve to wear boots , unke talent ka main achaar daalu jab unhone ne khudh hi uska use nhin kiya test cricket 

 

Dnt even use these names for test cricket 

I will wait for the day when Pandya even comes close to their batting abilities.

[Khota]

5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Dono bhooth hai 

all rounders dnt exist acc to OP

 

dnt even try to give him stokes 250 example, he ll call it fluke 

I am first one to admit I made a honest mistake when it came to Ben Stokes.

Benjamin Stokes is a true allrounder if street fighting is considered a sport.

Go check his latest batting stats in IPL and then come and discuss. As ususal you are clueless.

 

 

[Khota]

1 hour ago, Global.Baba said:

To respond to the OP. Yes allrounders do exist and these are special once in a generation cricketers  who seem to be good at whatever they do. So that part is dumb. May be it is a misinterpretation.

 

However I do agree that “specialist allrounder” doesn’t exist.

One for India in 100 years. People here go around talking like they are everywhere.