putrevus Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Who were better bowler then Krunal??? Ill drop one of the batsman next game most probably pant to have someone like sundar ( he can bat ) Bits n pieces is the only way as of now , 5 bowler alone is a bad startegy anyways ....6 bowlers is must and fix the batting order....kohli shud bat at 3 No I would not drop Pant, I would drop Pandya and stay away from guy like him.They are no good.Pant is the guy who needs to be given chances not guy like Pandya who will take not this team anywhere.His batting is the last thing this team needs. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Just now, putrevus said: No I would not drop Pant, I would drop Pandya and stay away from guy like him.They are no good.Pant is the guy who needs to be given chances not guy like Pandya who will take not this team anywhere.His batting is the last thing this team needs. as much as i wanna back pant but team combination requires to all rounder so one batsman has to be dropped dk/pant (dk did well so m being fair to him) even if u drop pandya u still play 5 bowler which is a wrong startegy coz one bowler gets beating and u hve no back up Look at scorecard .....2 bowlers got a beating today out of 5....so ur idea will still fizzle UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: yes n specifically spoke regd yuvraj that how he cannot use him anymore due to field change he used him against umar n maxwell in t20 coz their he had 5 fielders It's a huge factor to have some one like Yuvi who was prolific ODI cricketer for most part of his career.Someone who can win matches on his own batting innings and does the bowling job pretty well for someone batting in specialist batsman position.His bowling was more than bonus,it was very effective in some matches, especially in WC2011 where I think he was one of the highest wicket taker. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Just now, Straight Drive said: It's a huge factor to have some one like Yuvi who was prolific ODI cricketer for most part of his career.Someone who can win matches on his own batting innings and does the bowling job pretty well for someone batting in specialist batsman position.His bowling was more than bonus,it was very effective in some matches, especially in WC2011 where I think he was one of the highest wicket taker. yes but no point talking about it today Neither we have yuvraj.....neither rules are same Link to comment
zen Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Par SR was 167 Aus bowling BOWLING O M R W ECON 0s 4s 6s WD NB JP Behrendorff 4 0 43 1 10.75 9 6 1 0 0 B Stanlake 3 0 27 1 9.00 7 2 1 1 1 AJ Tye 3 0 47 1 15.66 3 6 2 3 0 A Zampa 4 0 22 2 5.50 11 1 0 0 1 MP Stoinis 3 0 27 2 9.00 4 2 0 2 1 Ind's batting (top 5) India Innings (target: 174 runs from 17 overs) BATSMEN R B 4s 6s SR RG Sharma c Finch b Behrendorff 7 8 0 0 87.50 S Dhawan c Behrendorff b Stanlake 76 42 10 2 180.95 KL Rahul st †Carey b Zampa 13 12 1 0 108.33 V Kohli (c) c Lynn b Zampa 4 8 0 0 50.00 RR Pant † c Behrendorff b Tye 20 16 1 1 125.00 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 minute ago, zen said: Par SR was 167 Aus bowling BOWLING O M R W ECON 0s 4s 6s WD NB JP Behrendorff 4 0 43 1 10.75 9 6 1 0 0 B Stanlake 3 0 27 1 9.00 7 2 1 1 1 AJ Tye 3 0 47 1 15.66 3 6 2 3 0 A Zampa 4 0 22 2 5.50 11 1 0 0 1 MP Stoinis 3 0 27 2 9.00 4 2 0 2 1 SO even Tye n Beherendoff got a whacking......tye is considered a good t20 bowler why to be so harsh on young kids??? t20 men sabko maar padti hai Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: as much as i wanna back pant but team combination requires to all rounder so one batsman has to be dropped dk/pant (dk did well so m being fair to him) even if u drop pandya u still play 5 bowler which is a wrong startegy coz one bowler gets beating and u hve no back up Look at scorecard .....2 bowlers got a beating today out of 5....so ur idea will still fizzle I don't think now a days team can afford bits and pieces players like Pandya, you need five proper bowlers and a batsman who can fill in if one of them has bad day. Hardik will come in place DK or Rahul. Pant has to play every game. Team can overcome one bowler having bad day from their top five but if Pandya is one of them they will have to account for two which is not needed as Pandya with bat will hardly be needed.Indian team needs bowlers who can bat not batsmen who can bowl at the spot Pandya is batting. Edited November 21, 2018 by putrevus Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: yes but no point talking about it today Neither we have yuvraj.....neither rules are same It will still be relevant if at least one of our batsmen who bat in specialist batting positions are able to bowl.Strategically Dhoni tried this experiment with Kedar Jadhav.The NZ ODI series in India which I specifically remember.Think that will be considered as strategy sometimes again, either with same player or someone else who can bowl in top 5 or 6. Link to comment
zen Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: SO even Tye n Beherendoff got a whacking......tye is considered a good t20 bowler why to be so harsh on young kids??? t20 men sabko maar padti hai Trolls .... When Pandya does well, these guys stay in their caves. One bad game, and they are out Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, Straight Drive said: It will still be relevant if at least one of our batsmen who bat in specialist batting positions are able to bowl.Strategically Dhoni tried this experiment with Kedar Jadhav.The NZ ODI series in India which I specifically remember.Think that will be considered as strategy sometimes again, either with same player or someone else who can bowl in top 5 or 6. no one does Jadhav dont happen every day and jadhav himself has been in injury ward more then half a year look at next line of batsman Shaw- doesnt bowl gill - doesnt Iyer- a bit hooda- a bit rana- a bit but iyer, hooda, rana will 1st have to earn place as batsman which i dnt see them doing as of now against their competition Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, putrevus said: I don't think now a days team can afford bits and pieces players like Pandya, Both pandya are more then bits n pieces no one becomes a full fledged all rounder over night N bits n pieces work in todays game as the format gets shorter 12 minutes ago, putrevus said: you need five proper bowlers and a batsman who can fill in if one of them has bad day. Hardik will come in place DK or Rahul. Pant has to play every game. Tell me which team plays 5 proper bowlers Hardik himself needs cushion of 6th bowler Playing only 5 bowler is a wrong strategy n only 4 in test is wrong So both pandya bros need to play and give each other cushion UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: no one does Jadhav dont happen every day and jadhav himself has been in injury ward more then half a year look at next line of batsman Shaw- doesnt bowl gill - doesnt Iyer- a bit hooda- a bit rana- a bit but iyer, hooda, rana will 1st have to earn place as batsman which i dnt see them doing as of now against their competition Totally agree.Apart from Jadhav the options are lacking.Thats the job of selectors and planning is required at various level s and individuals of TM and thereby is a failure in being well equipped for a strategical ploy. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Just now, Straight Drive said: Totally agree.Apart from Jadhav the options are lacking.Thats the job of selectors and planning is required at various level s and individuals of TM and thereby is a failure in being well equipped for a strategical ploy. cnt blame them alone ...honestly option nhin hai At max they can tell hooda, nair, vihari, iyer, rana to bowl more in domestic but at 1st they ll have to earn place as batsman which i dnt see them doing in LOI ahead of shaw, gill, pant , rahul rest kohli, rohit, dhawan are fixed Solution is play both pandya bros....they give each other cushion in bowling and develop them by playing more n more...this is why Mumbai Indian do so well N if one is injured have someone like shankar n start selecting dube to A-games and see how good or bad he is Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I have said this before there is a batsman who can bowl decently and a bowler who can bat decently. That is a definition of allrounder in the pure sense. There is no “specialist” allrounder unless it is gully cricket where the bully gets to do whatever he wants and when he wants. I still have no clue what the Pandya brother’s speciality is even though their batting skill is marginally better than their bowling. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 5 hours ago, gattaca said: Dont know which one you are referring to. Hardik won the tight match against bangladesh in WT20. If you are talking about krunal. He just played few matches. It will take time to mature for him to be international class. Both. Both will be out soon and the endless search will start again. Rightarmfast and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: what is the best XI dnt say 6 batsman 5 bowler....coz thats a combination. M asking whats the best XI You can call it a combination but five bats and five bowlers. Rightarmfast and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 2 hours ago, velu said: awesome troll @Khota These are hard, unpleasant facts. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: cnt blame them alone ...honestly option nhin hai At max they can tell hooda, nair, vihari, iyer, rana to bowl more in domestic but at 1st they ll have to earn place as batsman which i dnt see them doing in LOI ahead of shaw, gill, pant , rahul rest kohli, rohit, dhawan are fixed Solution is play both pandya bros....they give each other cushion in bowling and develop them by playing more n more...this is why Mumbai Indian do so well N if one is injured have someone like shankar n start selecting dube to A-games and see how good or bad he is Seriously! As if one has not done enough damage. If trolling than it is not nice. Switchblade, UrmiSinhaRay and Rightarmfast 1 1 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 4 hours ago, rkt.india said: Agree Kapil, Bothm, Sobers, Imran, Kallis, Klusner did not exist. They were just our fantasies. Can you self-reflect on your answer. Switchblade, UrmiSinhaRay and Rightarmfast 1 1 1 Link to comment
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