Straight Drive Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 10 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: cnt blame them alone ...honestly option nhin hai At max they can tell hooda, nair, vihari, iyer, rana to bowl more in domestic but at 1st they ll have to earn place as batsman which i dnt see them doing in LOI ahead of shaw, gill, pant , rahul rest kohli, rohit, dhawan are fixed Solution is play both pandya bros....they give each other cushion in bowling and develop them by playing more n more...this is why Mumbai Indian do so well N if one is injured have someone like shankar n start selecting dube to A-games and see how good or bad he is Not having good options is a failure of a system - cricketing system in this instance.Strategies, player development, succession planning are key roles which are expected from those involved in cricketing system of a country. express bowling, UrmiSinhaRay and Khota 1 1 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 7 hours ago, Khota said: One team did bad because someone was masquerading as a bowler who had no place on the team. our team did bad becoz of various reasons, which doesnt suit ur agenda 1. bad fielding 2. even khaleel went for runs 3. Pant throwing wkt at wrong time express bowling 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Khota said: If someone is not a genuine allrounder then they should be in the team based on their batting or bowling skill. I dont think any Pandya can walk into the team based on one skill. both pandya can walk into this team as specialist lower order hitters in LOI express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: both pandya can walk into this team as specialist lower order hitters in LOI The importance of high SR lower-middle order batsmen in ODIs and T20s ... who can start scoring immediately and are big hitters preferably ... is somehow missed by so many people. Hardik Pandya has the highest SR ( 115 ) in the history of Indian ODI cricket ( min 500 runs ). This at a decent average of around 30 for a No.7 batter. And he has a T20I SR of 153. Hardik Pandya's place in the test side maybe questioned ... But he can make it to the Indian ODI and T20I team just as a high SR lower-middle order batsman. Krunal shows similar potential ... But he has not proved anything yet at international level ( and neither has he got the chance to do so ). So I can understand any scepticism regarding him. Edited November 22, 2018 by express bowling Mosher, Straight Drive, Ankit_sharma03 and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: do u see any team using that ?? No na coz it doesnt work Every other team is doing that. SA play Phehluk trundler at 7 for his bowling not batting as he has not had a single fifty in his career. They are better off playing another strike bowler. OZ are playing Stoinis at 7 who averages 40+ with the bat but is useless with the ball. He's playing as a batsman. Pakistan play Shadab and Faheem at 7 and 8 and both of them are definitely bowlers first. So who are these allrounders? The problem with India is not the lack of tail. Its 4,5 and 6. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Nikhil_cric said: Every other team is doing that. SA play Phehluk trundler at 7 for his bowling not batting as he has not had a single fifty in his career. At 7 its not easy to get 50 Also i think morris has been injured n was struggling for form or else they ll play morris 1 minute ago, Nikhil_cric said: They are better off playing another strike bowler. OZ are playing Stoinis at 7 who averages 40+ with the bat but is useless with the ball. He's playing as a batsman. Pakistan play Shadab and Faheem at 7 and 8 and both of them are definitely bowlers first. So who are these allrounders? The problem with India is not the lack of tail. Its 4,5 and 6. their in lies ur answer all are playing player who contribute in 2 dept playing another s/r bowler affects their batting thats why no one is playing Stonis plays as all rounder . Faheem plays as all rounder Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: At 7 its not easy to get 50 Also i think morris has been injured n was struggling for form or else they ll play morris their in lies ur answer all are playing player who contribute in 2 dept playing another s/r bowler affects their batting thats why no one is playing Stonis plays as all rounder . Faheem plays as all rounder How is that an answer? I'm showing that these guys are clearly selected for either their batting or bowling. What has faheem,andile done with the bat at all. What has stoinis done with the ball? Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Just now, Nikhil_cric said: How is that an answer? I'm showing that these guys are clearly selected for either their batting or bowling. What has faheem,andile done with the bat at all. What has stoinis done with the ball? they are selected coz they can contribute in 2 dept and lend balance to team What they have done or not is a diff thing Captain select them coz they give him option in 2 dept. Faheem has jst played 16 odi games, to early to say nything express bowling 1 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 56 minutes ago, express bowling said: The importance of high SR lower-middle order batsmen in ODIs and T20s ... who can start scoring immediately and are big hitters preferably ... is somehow missed by so many people. Hardik Pandya has the highest SR ( 115 ) in the history of Indian ODI cricket ( min 500 runs ). This at a respectable average of around 30 for a No.7 batter. And he has a T20I SR of 153. Hardik Pandya's place in the test side maybe questioned ... But he can make it to the Indian ODI and T20I team just as a high SR lower-middle order batsman. Krunal shows similar potential ... But he has not proved anything yet at international level ( and neither has he got the chance to do so ). So I can understand any scepticism regarding him. ODI he is having a good utility and performance.That strike rate and average is very much acceptable with bat at that batting order.In ODI he is a perfect fit given his performances so far. express bowling and UrmiSinhaRay 2 Link to comment
Khota Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: our team did bad becoz of various reasons, which doesnt suit ur agenda 1. bad fielding 2. even khaleel went for runs 3. Pant throwing wkt at wrong time Never did I deny that. I was just pointing to the smoking gun which were the half a century he conceded in bowling. Link to comment
Khota Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: both pandya can walk into this team as specialist lower order hitters in LOI I have no idea what you are talking about. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Khota said: Never did I deny that. I was just pointing to the smoking gun which were the half a century he conceded in bowling. as if main bowlers dnt go for that many runs Didnt khaleel got smocked for runs didnt chahal got bajaoed in SA for 64 runs u wnt point out that coz it doesnt suit ur agenda Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Khota said: I have no idea what you are talking about. I knw, their is a lack of understanding of modern cricket with u Link to comment
Khota Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: as if main bowlers dnt go for that many runs Didnt khaleel got smocked for runs didnt chahal got bajaoed in SA for 64 runs u wnt point out that coz it doesnt suit ur agenda Only person who has an agenda here is you. You want both brothers to play. Do they have a sister too that you want to play for the women's team? 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: I knw, their is a lack of understanding of modern cricket with u I am extremely progressive. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Khota said: Only person who has an agenda here is you. You want both brothers to play. Do they have a sister too that you want to play for the women's team? Only Me half ICF wants them to play coz they give u balance and power thats been missing since ages Why do u think MI is such a good IPL side, its a lot coz of them and ofcourse not counting bumrah n rohit out . But they both toghter have made that side rich in quality Link to comment
Khota Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Only Me half ICF wants them to play coz they give u balance and power thats been missing since ages Why do u think MI is such a good IPL side, its a lot coz of them and ofcourse not counting bumrah n rohit out . But they both toghter have made that side rich in quality There is saying in coaching circles;"If you listen to fans you will be sitting with fans." Rightarmfast and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Khota said: There is saying in coaching circles;"If you listen to fans you will be sitting with fans." 18 hours ago, Khota said: It is barely 600 years that people realized earth goes around the sun. No worries. ICF has found its very own sidhu .....faaltu ki baaten lekin koi fact nhin Edited November 22, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03 Switchblade and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 59 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: ICF has found its very own sidhu .....faaltu ki baaten lekin koi fact nhin KH Pandya 55 runs Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Khota said: KH Pandya 55 runs So Chahal went for 64 runs in SA (its more then 55) t20 men sabko maar padti hai If ur trying to imply pandya bros has no right to fail and it serves ur agenda.....ill take ur point Still cricket is a human game and every one has off days Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I dont care T20s at all but one thing i know about LOIs is that you dont drop a proven wickettaker for a allrounder who is neither good at batting or bowling. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
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