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2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

any one cane be smoked for runs in t20

Chahal was smoked for 64 runs in SA in 4 overs without a wkt

True.    But I feel it's wiser to replace krunal with sundar, who is a better bowler and can bat down the order too. Chahal is useless with the bat. So, playing him would be a big gamble. And there is no point continuing with krunal becz he is a darter who does not hv any variations. He will get smashed  9 out of 10 times on flat wickets and match would be lost there itself.    PS : Krunal can be used as 6th bowler and not 5th.

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2 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

True.    But I feel it's wiser to replace krunal with sundar, who is a better bowler and can bat down the order too. Chahal is useless with the bat. So, playing him would be a big gamble. And there is no point continuing with krunal becz he is a darter who does not hv any variations. He will get smashed  9 out of 10 times on flat wickets and match would be lost there itself.    PS : Krunal can be used as 6th bowler and not 5th.

sundar is proper batsman and krunal a proper hitter in lower order u need a hitter

in terms of hitting Krunal is way ahead of sundar 

 

For me both needs to play as we need 6 bowler not 5, replacing krunal with sundar isnt solving anything as problem remains same that u hve 5 bowler and opp will target 1 of them and game over . Yesterday out of 5 3 bowlers went for runs

Look at the back up umesh yadav is leak machine, chahal n sundar can be smacked to ....

 

Going with only 5 bowler is the actual problem 

 

Yea krunal shud be 6th bowler as he is inexperienced right now , he is week as 5th bowler but as 6th he can be really good

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It seems younger Indian players now have a honeymoon period of max 2-3 matches or in case of Krunal (and Khaleel) one match. Team loses, one bad performances, you get all sorts of names! From being Man of the match 2 matches back to be called totally useless - all in a span of 10-15 days!

 

Thankfully Team Management does not have such panic reactions (they have some other major issues though) and looks to be supporting both young players.

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34 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

It seems younger Indian players now have a honeymoon period of max 2-3 matches or in case of Krunal (and Khaleel) one match. Team loses, one bad performances, you get all sorts of names! From being Man of the match 2 matches back to be called totally useless - all in a span of 10-15 days!

 

Thankfully Team Management does not have such panic reactions (they have some other major issues though) and looks to be supporting both young players.

The learning curve window for internationals is always small. Difference between a corporation and government job, a big company expects you to hit the ground straight away may be with a max of 1-2 weeks.

 

I still have hopes from Khaleel and Pant who are fine as they have a lot of right ingredients. However one lacks pace and the other temparament/patience. These are are 2 things that are very challenging to learn with a quick turnaround. That is the concern being highlighted.

 

As far as Krunal goes there is absolutely nothing in his bowling. For an allrounder his bowling looks worse than Jadhav’s who was a batsman who just started bowling. There is hope for his batting though and he has to be really good at that to justify his spot.

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27 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

The learning curve window for internationals is always small. Difference between a corporation and government job, a big company expects you to hit the ground straight away may be with a max of 1-2 weeks.

 

I still have hopes from Khaleel and Pant who are fine as they have a lot of right ingredients. However one lacks pace and the other temparament/patience. These are are 2 things that are very challenging to learn with a quick turnaround. That is the concern being highlighted.

 

As far as Krunal goes there is absolutely nothing in his bowling. For an allrounder his bowling looks worse than Jadhav’s who was a batsman who just started bowling. There is hope for his batting though and he has to be really good at that to justify his spot.

Based on his first T20 performance? On a ground where someone like Tye, a wonderful T20 bowler, got absolutely smoked.

 

What if he bounces back, will this sentiment change and make him  a better bowler? Why not give him a run and see how he goes. It's not that these T20s are the end of the world. We win its great, but even if we lose, it is absolutely okay IMO especially if we are trying out younger players.

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1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Based on his first T20 performance? On a ground where someone like Tye, a wonderful T20 bowler, got absolutely smoked.

 

What if he bounces back, will this sentiment change and make him  a better bowler? Why not give him a run and see how he goes. It's not that these T20s are the end of the world. We win its great, but even if we lose, it is absolutely okay IMO especially if we are trying out younger players.

Yes because Krunal has done jack in List A or First class, so no one knows how capable he is in those formats and at this stage even bringing him up as an option in those formats as a bowler is justice to all those spinners taking bucket loads of wickets in Indian domestics

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His bowling is mediocre. He might click once in a while. The reason i like him because he shows good attitude in crisis. May be not good at slogging from the word go. Infact very few can do that. I'll give benefit of doubt to his batting. Bowling has to improve significantly to fill the role as 5th bowling option. He is at best a decent 6th bowing option. He is ahead of 

 

Chahal - can bowl, can't bat, can't field

Jadeja - can field, can bowl a bit, can bat rarely

Ashwin - his bowling exposed, not suitable for T20 hitting

Sundar - Yet to mature as batsman and bowler. He has the ingredients though

 

He is there ahead of all of them because of one factor. He has proved in IPL he can score quickly.  That is the only reason he is out there. Not for his bowling or fielding. We have better bowlers, fielders. So he has to justify his inclusion. 

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56 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

His bowling is mediocre. He might click once in a while. The reason i like him because he shows good attitude in crisis. May be not good at slogging from the word go. Infact very few can do that. I'll give benefit of doubt to his batting. Bowling has to improve significantly to fill the role as 5th bowling option. He is at best a decent 6th bowing option. He is ahead of 

 

Chahal - can bowl, can't bat, can't field

Jadeja - can field, can bowl a bit, can bat rarely

Ashwin - his bowling exposed, not suitable for T20 hitting

Sundar - Yet to mature as batsman and bowler. He has the ingredients though

 

He is there ahead of all of them because of one factor. He has proved in IPL he can score quickly.  That is the only reason he is out there. Not for his bowling or fielding. We have better bowlers, fielders. So he has to justify his inclusion. 

Sundar the bowler is marginally better than Krunal which is not saying a lot. However I have never seen Sundar bat long enough either in the IPL and obviously in international cricket. @rkt.india  who follows domestics closesly rates him as a bat so may be he has it in him to be a proper bat.

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3 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Based on his first T20 performance? On a ground where someone like Tye, a wonderful T20 bowler, got absolutely smoked.

 

What if he bounces back, will this sentiment change and make him  a better bowler? Why not give him a run and see how he goes. It's not that these T20s are the end of the world. We win its great, but even if we lose, it is absolutely okay IMO especially if we are trying out younger players.

He got smacked by WI in previous T20 as well, and he hasn't learnt anything from that. All he does when getting hit is dart faster. At this level, you need to deceive batsmen of quality, how is he going to do that with darts outside subcontinent?

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8 minutes ago, Forever Indian said:

He got smacked by WI in previous T20 as well, and he hasn't learnt anything from that. All he does when getting hit is dart faster. At this level, you need to deceive batsmen of quality, how is he going to do that with darts outside subcontinent?

Remember the bouncer he bowled lol That is when i realized we have a pie chucker. 

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