Jump to content

Deers caught in front of the headlights


zen

Recommended Posts

First, let's look at the overall numbers:

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 remove greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 800 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 800 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 6 of 6   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
V Kohli 2016-2018 23 37 2 2375 243 67.85 3582 66.30 10 5 3 240 8 investigate this query
CA Pujara 2016-2018 24 38 2 1835 202 50.97 4154 44.17 6 8 3 201 4 investigate this query
S Dhawan 2017-2018 11 19 0 851 190 44.78 1016 83.75 3 2 0 124 7 investigate this query
KL Rahul 2016-2018 22 35 2 1278 199 38.72 2132 59.94 2 10 4 153 7 investigate this query
M Vijay 2016-2018 15 24 0 929 155 38.70 1937 47.96 5 1 2 97 7 investigate this query
AM Rahane 2017-2018 21 34 2 1012 132 31.62 2169 46.65 1 6 2 107 5

 

 

Second, let's visualize numbers in SENA, where we have played 9 tests in the past 2 years: 

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team Australia remove Australia from query or England remove England from query or New Zealand remove New Zealand from query or South Africa remove South Africa from query
Home or away away (home of opposition) remove away (home of opposition) from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 remove greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 115 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 115 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 10 of 10   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
V Kohli 9 17 0 882 153 51.88 1516 58.17 3 4 1 102 1 investigate this query
CA Pujara 8 15 1 501 132* 35.78 1314 38.12 2 2 2 55 2 investigate this query
RR Pant 4 7 0 187 114 26.71 290 64.48 1 0 1 22 7 investigate this query
AM Rahane 7 13 0 327 81 25.15 765 42.74 0 2 1 34 1 investigate this query
RG Sharma 3 5 0 115 47 23.00 251 45.81 0 0 0 11 4 investigate this query
KL Rahul 8 15 0 331 149 22.06 559 59.21 1 0 2 48 1 investigate this query
R Ashwin 7 13 2 241 38 21.90 397 60.70 0 0 0 34 1 investigate this query
HH Pandya 7 14 1 283 93 21.76 461 61.38 0 2 2 42 2 investigate this query
S Dhawan 5 10 0 194 44 19.40 325 59.69 0 0 0 28 0 investigate this query
M Vijay 6 11 0 139 46 12.63 456 30.48 0 0 2 16 0

 

 

Third, let's break the numbers down b/w top order and middle order

 

a) Top Order 

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team Australia remove Australia from query or England remove England from query or New Zealand remove New Zealand from query or South Africa remove South Africa from query
Home or away away (home of opposition) remove away (home of opposition) from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 remove greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 from query
Batting position less than or equal to 3 remove less than or equal to 3 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 115 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 115 from query
Ordered by runs scored (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 4 of 4   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Mat Inns NO RunsDescending HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
CA Pujara 8 14 1 500 132* 38.46 1304 38.34 2 2 2 55 2 investigate this query
KL Rahul 8 15 0 331 149 22.06 559 59.21 1 0 2 48 1 investigate this query
S Dhawan 5 10 0 194 44 19.40 325 59.69 0 0 0 28 0 investigate this query
M Vijay 6 11 0 139 46 12.63 456 30.48 0 0 2 16 0

 

b) Middle Order 

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team Australia remove Australia from query or England remove England from query or New Zealand remove New Zealand from query or South Africa remove South Africa from query
Home or away away (home of opposition) remove away (home of opposition) from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 remove greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 from query
Batting position between 4 and 7 remove between 4 and 7 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 115 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 115 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 5 of 5   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
V Kohli 9 17 0 882 153 51.88 1516 58.17 3 4 1 102 1 investigate this query
RR Pant 4 7 0 187 114 26.71 290 64.48 1 0 1 22 7 investigate this query
AM Rahane 7 13 0 327 81 25.15 765 42.74 0 2 1 34 1 investigate this query
RG Sharma 3 5 0 115 47 23.00 251 45.81 0 0 0 11 4 investigate this query
HH Pandya 7 13 1 252 93 21.00 400 63.00 0 2 2 38 2 investigate this query

 

 

 

Questions / Concerns 

  • Of those who have played at least 5 games and are currently in the squad for Aus test series: KL, Vijay and Rahane appear like Deers caught in front of the headlights 
  • Watching these guys bat gave me the impression that they expect to get out soon, therefore try to make as many as possible before doing that. All three played dumb shots to get out. Rahane appeared to be too eager to get off the strike 

 

Despite such numbers and no signs of improvement, why have the selectors and team management persisted with them? While Shaw is injured, what was the point of not continuing with the likes of Agarwal (not in the squad) and benching Vihari? If these guys (many of them are considered as SENA specialists) do not do well, will the selectors and team management (Kohli and Shastri) take accountability of bad decisions / selections to resign from their respective posts? 

 

 

Link to comment
2 minutes ago, zen said:

First, let's look at the overall numbers:

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 remove greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 800 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 800 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 6 of 6   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
V Kohli 2016-2018 23 37 2 2375 243 67.85 3582 66.30 10 5 3 240 8 investigate this query
CA Pujara 2016-2018 24 38 2 1835 202 50.97 4154 44.17 6 8 3 201 4 investigate this query
S Dhawan 2017-2018 11 19 0 851 190 44.78 1016 83.75 3 2 0 124 7 investigate this query
KL Rahul 2016-2018 22 35 2 1278 199 38.72 2132 59.94 2 10 4 153 7 investigate this query
M Vijay 2016-2018 15 24 0 929 155 38.70 1937 47.96 5 1 2 97 7 investigate this query
AM Rahane 2017-2018 21 34 2 1012 132 31.62 2169 46.65 1 6 2 107 5

 

 

Second, let's visualize numbers in SENA, where we have played 9 tests in the past 2 years: 

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team Australia remove Australia from query or England remove England from query or New Zealand remove New Zealand from query or South Africa remove South Africa from query
Home or away away (home of opposition) remove away (home of opposition) from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 remove greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 115 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 115 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 10 of 10   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
V Kohli 9 17 0 882 153 51.88 1516 58.17 3 4 1 102 1 investigate this query
CA Pujara 8 15 1 501 132* 35.78 1314 38.12 2 2 2 55 2 investigate this query
RR Pant 4 7 0 187 114 26.71 290 64.48 1 0 1 22 7 investigate this query
AM Rahane 7 13 0 327 81 25.15 765 42.74 0 2 1 34 1 investigate this query
RG Sharma 3 5 0 115 47 23.00 251 45.81 0 0 0 11 4 investigate this query
KL Rahul 8 15 0 331 149 22.06 559 59.21 1 0 2 48 1 investigate this query
R Ashwin 7 13 2 241 38 21.90 397 60.70 0 0 0 34 1 investigate this query
HH Pandya 7 14 1 283 93 21.76 461 61.38 0 2 2 42 2 investigate this query
S Dhawan 5 10 0 194 44 19.40 325 59.69 0 0 0 28 0 investigate this query
M Vijay 6 11 0 139 46 12.63 456 30.48 0 0 2 16 0

 

 

Third, let's break the numbers down b/w top order and middle order

 

a) Top Order 

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team Australia remove Australia from query or England remove England from query or New Zealand remove New Zealand from query or South Africa remove South Africa from query
Home or away away (home of opposition) remove away (home of opposition) from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 remove greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 from query
Batting position less than or equal to 3 remove less than or equal to 3 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 115 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 115 from query
Ordered by runs scored (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 4 of 4   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Mat Inns NO RunsDescending HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
CA Pujara 8 14 1 500 132* 38.46 1304 38.34 2 2 2 55 2 investigate this query
KL Rahul 8 15 0 331 149 22.06 559 59.21 1 0 2 48 1 investigate this query
S Dhawan 5 10 0 194 44 19.40 325 59.69 0 0 0 28 0 investigate this query
M Vijay 6 11 0 139 46 12.63 456 30.48 0 0 2 16 0

 

b) Middle Order 

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team Australia remove Australia from query or England remove England from query or New Zealand remove New Zealand from query or South Africa remove South Africa from query
Home or away away (home of opposition) remove away (home of opposition) from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 remove greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 from query
Batting position between 4 and 7 remove between 4 and 7 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 115 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 115 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 5 of 5   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
V Kohli 9 17 0 882 153 51.88 1516 58.17 3 4 1 102 1 investigate this query
RR Pant 4 7 0 187 114 26.71 290 64.48 1 0 1 22 7 investigate this query
AM Rahane 7 13 0 327 81 25.15 765 42.74 0 2 1 34 1 investigate this query
RG Sharma 3 5 0 115 47 23.00 251 45.81 0 0 0 11 4 investigate this query
HH Pandya 7 13 1 252 93 21.00 400 63.00 0 2 2 38 2 investigate this query

 

 

 

Questions / Concerns 

  • Of those who have played at least 5 games and are currently in the squad for Aus test series: KL, Vijay and Rahane appear like Deers caught in front of the headlights  
  • Watching these guys bat gave me the impression that they expect to get out soon, therefore try to make as many as possible before doing that. All three played dumb shots to get out. Rahane appeared to be too eager to get off the strike 

 

Despite such numbers and no signs of improvement, why have the selectors and team management persisted with them? While Shaw is injured, what was the point of not continuing with the likes of Agarwal (not in the squad) and benching Vihari? If these guys (many of them are considered as SENA specialists) do not do well, will the selectors and team management (Kohli and Shastri) take accountability of bad decisions / selections to resign from their respective posts? 

 

 

The simple answer to your question (in bold) is: No. They will keep selecting players who are either horribly out of form (e.g. Vijay and Rahane), or simply lack the requisite skills to handle SENA conditions (e.g. Dhawan and Rohit). We can't do much about Shaw, but there are a number of players like Agarwal and Vihari who should have been in the mix. In the WI tour at home, I'd like to have seen both of them get a run as well as the likes of Nair, Gill, etc. Even in Ind A, the non-selection of Panchal and the preference of Samarth has been rather baffling to me.

 

One thing that I find interesting is that VK's own average is not "high" per se; I think he has been getting out rather cheaply over the past 2-3 innings in Eng and Oz. I know that he is the least of our problems, but I am a bit concerned that the success has been going to his head, and we may see his batting nosedive in this series.

Link to comment
3 minutes ago, zen said:

I also wish that Saha were available for this series. He is the best WK for us and someone who can curb his instincts to play as per the situation :dontknow:

Saha is a pretty limited batsman, and although he bats cautiously in general, he can throw away his wkt rashly on occasion (e.g. adelaide 2014). With this said, he would always be my No.1 pick purely for his keeping, especially after looking at Pant's clumsy "keeping".

Link to comment
36 minutes ago, zen said:

Accommodating one of KL, Vijay and Rahane in the 11 may not appear like a huge problem but playing all of them in the 11 could be one 

 

 

Please he is very much ok. Last time we played in Adelaide he went for six and then went for another one and got stumped. 

Link to comment
On 12/6/2018 at 10:53 PM, zen said:

First, let's look at the overall numbers:

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 remove greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 800 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 800 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 6 of 6   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
V Kohli 2016-2018 23 37 2 2375 243 67.85 3582 66.30 10 5 3 240 8 investigate this query
CA Pujara 2016-2018 24 38 2 1835 202 50.97 4154 44.17 6 8 3 201 4 investigate this query
S Dhawan 2017-2018 11 19 0 851 190 44.78 1016 83.75 3 2 0 124 7 investigate this query
KL Rahul 2016-2018 22 35 2 1278 199 38.72 2132 59.94 2 10 4 153 7 investigate this query
M Vijay 2016-2018 15 24 0 929 155 38.70 1937 47.96 5 1 2 97 7 investigate this query
AM Rahane 2017-2018 21 34 2 1012 132 31.62 2169 46.65 1 6 2 107 5

 

 

Second, let's visualize numbers in SENA, where we have played 9 tests in the past 2 years: 

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team Australia remove Australia from query or England remove England from query or New Zealand remove New Zealand from query or South Africa remove South Africa from query
Home or away away (home of opposition) remove away (home of opposition) from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 remove greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 115 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 115 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 10 of 10   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
V Kohli 9 17 0 882 153 51.88 1516 58.17 3 4 1 102 1 investigate this query
CA Pujara 8 15 1 501 132* 35.78 1314 38.12 2 2 2 55 2 investigate this query
RR Pant 4 7 0 187 114 26.71 290 64.48 1 0 1 22 7 investigate this query
AM Rahane 7 13 0 327 81 25.15 765 42.74 0 2 1 34 1 investigate this query
RG Sharma 3 5 0 115 47 23.00 251 45.81 0 0 0 11 4 investigate this query
KL Rahul 8 15 0 331 149 22.06 559 59.21 1 0 2 48 1 investigate this query
R Ashwin 7 13 2 241 38 21.90 397 60.70 0 0 0 34 1 investigate this query
HH Pandya 7 14 1 283 93 21.76 461 61.38 0 2 2 42 2 investigate this query
S Dhawan 5 10 0 194 44 19.40 325 59.69 0 0 0 28 0 investigate this query
M Vijay 6 11 0 139 46 12.63 456 30.48 0 0 2 16 0

 

 

Third, let's break the numbers down b/w top order and middle order

 

a) Top Order 

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team Australia remove Australia from query or England remove England from query or New Zealand remove New Zealand from query or South Africa remove South Africa from query
Home or away away (home of opposition) remove away (home of opposition) from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 remove greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 from query
Batting position less than or equal to 3 remove less than or equal to 3 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 115 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 115 from query
Ordered by runs scored (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 4 of 4   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Mat Inns NO RunsDescending HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
CA Pujara 8 14 1 500 132* 38.46 1304 38.34 2 2 2 55 2 investigate this query
KL Rahul 8 15 0 331 149 22.06 559 59.21 1 0 2 48 1 investigate this query
S Dhawan 5 10 0 194 44 19.40 325 59.69 0 0 0 28 0 investigate this query
M Vijay 6 11 0 139 46 12.63 456 30.48 0 0 2 16 0

 

b) Middle Order 

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team Australia remove Australia from query or England remove England from query or New Zealand remove New Zealand from query or South Africa remove South Africa from query
Home or away away (home of opposition) remove away (home of opposition) from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 remove greater than or equal to 6 Dec 2016 from query
Batting position between 4 and 7 remove between 4 and 7 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 115 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 115 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 5 of 5   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
V Kohli 9 17 0 882 153 51.88 1516 58.17 3 4 1 102 1 investigate this query
RR Pant 4 7 0 187 114 26.71 290 64.48 1 0 1 22 7 investigate this query
AM Rahane 7 13 0 327 81 25.15 765 42.74 0 2 1 34 1 investigate this query
RG Sharma 3 5 0 115 47 23.00 251 45.81 0 0 0 11 4 investigate this query
HH Pandya 7 13 1 252 93 21.00 400 63.00 0 2 2 38 2 investigate this query

 

 

 

Questions / Concerns 

  • Of those who have played at least 5 games and are currently in the squad for Aus test series: KL, Vijay and Rahane appear like Deers caught in front of the headlights 
  • Watching these guys bat gave me the impression that they expect to get out soon, therefore try to make as many as possible before doing that. All three played dumb shots to get out. Rahane appeared to be too eager to get off the strike 

 

Despite such numbers and no signs of improvement, why have the selectors and team management persisted with them? While Shaw is injured, what was the point of not continuing with the likes of Agarwal (not in the squad) and benching Vihari? If these guys (many of them are considered as SENA specialists) do not do well, will the selectors and team management (Kohli and Shastri) take accountability of bad decisions / selections to resign from their respective posts? 

 

 

Numbers in SENA, where we have played 9 tests in the past 2 years: 

Shambolic that only two batsmen are averaging over 30.  The rest below 27.  Vijay being the worst averaging 12.63. Not even a single 50.

 

a) Top Order 

Top order gave disgraceful performances with averages of 12.63, 19.40 and 22.06 by Vijay, Dhawan and Rahul respectively. 

 

b) Middle order

Apart from Kohli, everyone averages below 27. But then the crap show by top order they are made to look relatively better.

Link to comment

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...