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3 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Combination of  genuine pace,  bounce,  accuracy,  big indippers,  small away going balls,  yorkers,  bouncers,  slower balls.  Plus a thinking bowler who can set up batsmen and adapt to new conditions fast.

 

He is pretty much the complete package.

 

An Indian pacer bowling ball after ball in good areas and at high pace ... is something I always wanted to see.

 

And he can be the enforcer bowler when he wants ... bowling 140 k to 150 k hostile spells with bounce.

 

We are lucky to have a bowler like Bumrah ... who has low averages, low strike rates and low economy rates in all 3 formats.

 

 

 

 

He is a very good bowler currently, but his lack of outswing is going to hold him back from the top levels. You may say that there are plenty of other bowlers with not much movement, like Ambrose or McGrath, but for them, low movement was both ways. Bumra has a huge inswinger and not much of an outswing, which will allow the batsmen to play inside the line to him more often than not and get away with it. But yes, he will be a very good bowler, barring injury. I just wish he had a decent outswinger, lest he goes the Srinath way (also another guy who suffered from lacking an outswinger more than anything else).

 

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4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Combination of  genuine pace, bounce, accuracy, big indipper, small away going ball, yorkers, bouncers, slower balls.  Plus a thinking bowler who can set up batsmen and adapt to new conditions fast.

 

He is pretty much the complete package.

 

An Indian pacer bowling ball after ball in good areas and at pace ... is something I always wanted to see.

 

And he can be the enforcer bowler when he wants ... bowling 140 k to 150 k hostile spells with bounce.

 

We are lucky to have a bowler like Bumrah ... who has low averages, low strike rates and low economy rates in all 3 formats.

 

 

 

 

Bumrah is a gem. His workload needs to be managed properly so he should be rested against minnows and shouldn't play too many bilateral odi/t20's.

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5 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Bumrah is a gem. His workload needs to be managed properly so he should be rested against minnows and shouldn't play too many bilateral odi/t20's.

i am afraid that won't happen. His bowling style of choking the runs away is worth its weight in gold and he will not be sitting out too many limited overs matches due to this reason. Not unless he pulls an Ashwin and goes from a 'limited over specialist who did well in tests' to a test specialist who now sucks in limited overs.

 

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17 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

He is a very good bowler currently, but his lack of outswing is going to hold him back from the top levels. You may say that there are plenty of other bowlers with not much movement, like Ambrose or McGrath, but for them, low movement was both ways. Bumra has a huge inswinger and not much of an outswing, which will allow the batsmen to play inside the line to him more often than not and get away with it. But yes, he will be a very good bowler, barring injury. I just wish he had a decent outswinger, lest he goes the Srinath way (also another guy who suffered from lacking an outswinger more than anything else).

 

 

Bumrah had developed the away going ball from the Sri Lanka tour of mid-2017.  For around 10 months, this was more of a small away going ball.

 

 However, from the England tour of mid-2018,  he has developed a distinct outswinger. 

 

Moreover, Bumrah knows how to use the skill sets and tools he has at his disposal at any point in time.  Even during the primarily-indipper phase of his career, he used the straighter ball to get the outside edges of batters.

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Bumrah has an outswinger, just doesn't like to use it. I remember a freak outswinger that got an Eng left handed opener lbw, a full toss at knee height that swung suddenly into him. Have seen few other outswingers as well, maybe accidentally :p:

 

I think the greatest bowler to not have an outswinger was Alan Donald, in my TV experience. His straighter delivery came later and served as a variation. 

 

Have to say, resource management has really improved in Indian cricket. Would hate to see Bumrah & Kohli in home tests against SL & WI.

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2 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

i am afraid that won't happen. His bowling style of choking the runs away is worth its weight in gold and he will not be sitting out too many limited overs matches due to this reason. Not unless he pulls an Ashwin and goes from a 'limited over specialist who did well in tests' to a test specialist who now sucks in limited overs.

 

 

Bumrah has been rested from quite a few LOI matches / tournaments after his test debut.

 

He was rested in test matches against weaker teams like Afghanistan and WI too.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Clarke said:

Bumrah has an outswinger, just doesn't like to use it. I remember a freak outswinger that got an Eng left handed opener lbw, a full toss at knee height that swung suddenly into him. Have seen few other outswingers as well, maybe accidentally :p:

 

I think the greatest bowler to not have an outswinger was Alan Donald, in my TV experience. His straighter delivery came later and served as a variation. 

 

Have to say, resource management has really improved in Indian cricket. Would hate to see Bumrah & Kohli in home tests against SL & WI.

Yes but Donald was significantly more bouncier than Bumrah, while being still just as fast, just as accurate and unlike Bumrah had help from fellow hall of fame bowler Pollock to 'hunt in packs'. And before Pollock, he had support of some extremely good fast bowlers like deVilliers, Schultz, etc. Bumrah does not have that and without Donald's support cast and his superior bounce, Bumrah is not going to be as successful without developing the outswinger i think. Dont get me wrong, i think Bumrah will go down as one of the best Indian pacers, but if he did have a good outswinger, he could be our first genuine HoF pace bowler. 

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17 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Bumrah is a gem. His workload needs to be managed properly so he should be rested against minnows and shouldn't play too many bilateral odi/t20's.

Agreed. There are examples how superstar pacers are managed or manage their workload themselves. Rabada took rest from this years IPL even though he was selected. Jasprit Bumrah needs to think wisely as well.  To become the worlds best he will need to manage his workload in matches that carry no weight age as star test cricketer. Play half of IPL matches or skip it completely, reduce participation in minnow bilateral LOI and tests.

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6 hours ago, express bowling said:

Combination of  genuine pace,  bounce,  accuracy,  big indippers,  small away going balls,  yorkers,  bouncers,  slower balls.  Plus a thinking bowler who can set up batsmen and adapt to new conditions fast.

 

He is pretty much the complete package.

 

An Indian pacer bowling ball after ball in good areas and at high pace ... is something I always wanted to see.

 

And he can be the enforcer bowler when he wants ... bowling 140 k to 150 k hostile spells with bounce.

 

We are lucky to have a bowler like Bumrah ... who has low averages, low strike rates and low economy rates in all 3 formats.

 

 

 

 

My one concern is that we don't work him into the ground.  Pace bowlers have short-duration primes anyway, and given his height, he's not a sure bet to extend his career once his pace drops a bit.  Although I wouldn't count him out purely because he's such a intelligent bowler.  Guy is a total old soul of a bowler, bowls as if he has 10 years experience.  I have seen only Zaheer Khan in his swansong years bowled with such brains.  And by that time he was nowhere near his prime in terms of physical bowling skills.  First bonafide lead dog stud of a pace bowler I have gotten to root for in all these years as a fan.  

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8 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

Yes but Donald was significantly more bouncier than Bumrah, while being still just as fast, just as accurate and unlike Bumrah had help from fellow hall of fame bowler Pollock to 'hunt in packs'. And before Pollock, he had support of some extremely good fast bowlers like deVilliers, Schultz, etc. Bumrah does not have that and without Donald's support cast and his superior bounce, Bumrah is not going to be as successful without developing the outswinger i think. Dont get me wrong, i think Bumrah will go down as one of the best Indian pacers, but if he did have a good outswinger, he could be our first genuine HoF pace bowler. 

Donald had a great support cast. Pity Schultz did not play more often. He was far more frightening to watch than Donald, Pollock, Fanie de Villiers, Ntini, etc.

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