Not playing a spinner was huge mistake

[Trichromatic]

Vihari has bowled 14 overs without any success, but he is holding one end.

 

Ishant 14, Yadav 13 have gone for runs. Kohli has been forced to bowl Bumrah and Shami more. With 4 pacers, captain has been limited in options as at least bowler is failing to contain runs. Indian team must be missing Ashwin or Jadeja a lot here.

[Frustrated]

Jadeja would hv been ineffective here.  Australia have 6 lefties.  Jadeja never had much success against lefties even in the subcontinent. Forget Australia.  He might at best hold up one end;. which is what vihari has also done.  If ashwin is back for the next test, it will be refreshing for us.  Lets see. 

[Khota]

Should have played one spinner. There is no variety to the attack.Sports need to be played to your strengths and others weaknesses.

[MechEng]

But not sure if Ashwin would have made any significant impact.

[zen]

Would have preferred Kuldeep, esp. with the benefit of hindsight 

[sandeep]

7 hours ago, Frustrated said:

Jadeja would hv been ineffective here.  Australia have 6 lefties.  Jadeja never had much success against lefties even in the subcontinent. Forget Australia.  He might at best hold up one end;. which is what vihari has also done.  If ashwin is back for the next test, it will be refreshing for us.  Lets see. 

How many times did Jadeja get Cook out in India?  Claiming that Jaddu is 'ineffective' against lefties is just as useless as Umesh's bowling in this test.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Playing umesh was a bigger mistake , actually carrying him on this tour was 

[putrevus]

Jadeja would have made difference between India winning second test and losing. The test was lost the moment they selected that useless fellow Yadav.

 

Shastri and Kohli have no clue how to select a team and selectors are jokers they are not helping by selecting useless people.

 

Lyon took 7 wickets plus counting on this pitch .

Edited December 17, 2018 by putrevus

[Frustrated]

13 minutes ago, sandeep said:

How many times did Jadeja get Cook out in India?  Claiming that Jaddu is 'ineffective' against lefties is just as useless as Umesh's bowling in this test.

The ongoing series is in Australia, not India. Jadeja's bowling average in Australia is poor (I am talking about both ODIs and Tests)

 

You know very well how many runs Jadeja conceded against England and at what average in the recent tour.

Outside the subcontinent, he never looks threatening.

 

But same can be said about ashwin. Only reason for ashwin being selected is that Aussies hv 6 lefties.

 

 

[Khota]

This is the the order of mistake.

Opener 1

Opener 2

No spinner,

 

Australia did not score much but Indian bats failed again.

[R!TTER]

7 hours ago, Frustrated said:

Jadeja would hv been ineffective here.  Australia have 6 lefties.  Jadeja never had much success against lefties even in the subcontinent. Forget Australia.  He might at best hold up one end;. which is what vihari has also done.  If ashwin is back for the next test, it will be refreshing for us.  Lets see. 

Wow you must've missed the entire England series then, albeit in India.

 

12 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

The ongoing series is in Australia, not India. Jadeja's bowling average in Australia is poor (I am talking about both ODIs and Tests)

 

You know very well how many runs Jadeja conceded against England and at what average in the recent tour.

Outside the subcontinent, he never looks threatening.

 

But same can be said about ashwin. Only reason for ashwin being selected is that Aussies hv 6 lefties.

 

 

You don't even know yous stats, jadeja hasn't bowled a ball in A tests in Aus.

 

Same can be said about Ashwin. Yeah how did that work out in England?

Edited December 17, 2018 by R!TTER

[shortbread]

7 hours ago, Khota said:

Should have played one spinner. There is no variety to the attack.Sports need to be played to your strengths and others weaknesses.

+1

 

Kohli/Shastri have been fooled into thinking this pitch was all about pace.

 

Issue is I thing they will be played again. When it comes to team decisions, Kohli shoots from the hip. And Shastri has his mouth full and choking, so he doesn't say anything either! 

[rtmohanlal]

select Umesh .... no: 1 recipe to lose any SENA match

And really don't know as to what happend to Ashwin. That sense less moron leech Shastri can 'injure' any inform player at any moment.

Such is his 'expertise' level  in analysing pitch conditions , opposition team strengths  etc etc. In ENG too, he 'injured' Ashwin out of no where.

With a 100% guarantee that  current openers are so 'incompetent or out of form  or both'  &  apart from Kohli  there is no guarantee that even other  senior batsmen can make a start 'count', playing 4  dead wood tail enders who can't bat a bit was yet another mistake.

 

I would play Jadeja,Ashwin,Kuldeep,Bhuvi & Bumrah come what may in the next 2 tests. It is far better to  play  'bowlers who can bat at the least in minimum levels'  than   specialists like Vijay ,Rahul etc etc.

 

If India needs to win this series moving forward, taking a chance with  Kuldeep is a must.

 

And importantly , needs to open with Pujara. His nature of batting is that  he either can  play a  '35 ball 10'  and if he survives that,  then can make the start count ,what ever be the position in which he bats,

 

Edited December 17, 2018 by rtmohanlal

[mishra]

Palying Umesh was huge mistake. Bhuvi, Jaddu  would have been my choice because they vcould offer something with bat. Gappu Pappu need to understand meaning of "safety".

Also that catch out of Kohli was one of the biggest blunders committed by umpire. What is need of technology if you cant use it

[rtmohanlal]

14 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

The ongoing series is in Australia, not India. Jadeja's bowling average in Australia is poor (I am talking about both ODIs and Tests)

 

You know very well how many runs Jadeja conceded against England and at what average in the recent tour.

Outside the subcontinent, he never looks threatening.

 

But same can be said about ashwin. Only reason for ashwin being selected is that Aussies hv 6 lefties.

 

 

at least say some sensible things to defend , mate...  Jadeja  has never bowled in AUS in tests till now. In ENG he was effective taking 7 wkts in the lone test he played in considering the batting friendly nature of the pitch.In SAF he picked 6 wkts in the lone test match he played in.And more importantly, as if  all the seamers have been doing brilliantly in SENA.

[R!TTER]

Our biggest problem is the openers & non existent tail end batting. The other problem could be that Melbourne & Sydney are roads with slow but possibly appreciable turn later on. If the pacers don't win it then Lyon will certainly win them the series over there, two of Jadeja/Ashwin/Kuldeep must be played in the remaining tests. I'd also open with Ashwin, like I said in the Eng series.

Edited December 17, 2018 by R!TTER

[Frustrated]

8 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

at least say some sensible things to defend , mate...  Jadeja  has never bowled in AUS in tests till now. In ENG he was effective taking 7 wkts in the lone test he played in considering the batting friendly nature of the pitch.In SAF he picked 6 wkts in the lone test match he played in.And more importantly, as if  all the seamers have been doing brilliantly in SENA.

Ever wondered why he has never bowled in Australia in tests?

It is because TM is sure that he would fail there. He is in the squad only as a secondary backup.

 

Looking at how ineffective he has been in LOIS in Australia throughout his career, it is very clear that he wont succeed in Australia.

 

Let him play one test in this series (if at all),  you will come to know.

 

[R!TTER]

Yes, the same TM which picked Karn another Sharma at Adelaide in 2014, picked just the one spinner at Centurion or Southampton, picked Kuldeep on the greenest of tracks At Lord's 

 

Safe to say that TM is full of sh!t & don't know how to read conditions, pick the right players!

Edited December 17, 2018 by R!TTER

[sandsaims]

It's an epic blunder when you realize umesh replaced the spinner.

[Sachinism]

tbf Indian spinners aren't as good as Lyon