Petition to throw Rahane out of the team

[Global.Baba]

Rahane’s approach yesterday was disgusting.

 

Dumb and pointless. As a senior bat he had to stick around for Vihari and Pant to guide them.

 

Rather than doing that he came swinging like it was the final overs of a T20 game. 

 

He was flaying the ball around. No game awareness whatsoever.

 

He is the culprit in this final innings. 

 

How can he be relied upon as one of your seniormost members?

 

Had he got a Jaffa or if it was a technical deficiency would have made sense but getting out the way he did was inexcusable.

 

For this alone he needs to be dropped

 

Edited December 17, 2018 by Global.Baba

[zen]

It appears as if he is not confident of staying at crease for relatively longer periods and therefore tries to get as many as possible before he gets out 

[Global.Baba]

1 minute ago, zen said:

It appears as if he is not confident of staying at crease for relatively longer periods and therefore tries to get as many as possible before he gets out 

That is the same attitude of Shami or Umesh Yadav with the bat and it makes sense for them. Not for your top batsman

[Rasgulla]

@WC2011INDIA bhai .. How much did you pay 

[zen]

22 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

That is the same attitude of Shami or Umesh Yadav with the bat and it makes sense for them. Not for your top batsman

Unfortunately, a lot of guys select players based on what happened in Aus years ago for e.g. KL scored a 100, Vijay and Rahane average high, etc., overlooking current form and as if they will magically replicate their performances  .... Though Rahane has looked relatively better than the other two 

 

Aus was a great opportunity to try some new batsmen. May be to start building team for 2020s. Unfortunately Shaw got injured, but could have included Agarwal earlier and may be fast tracked Gill 

 

Like Vijay, KL and Rahane, other players who look good on paper are Ashwin, Jadeja and Bhuvi, along with Umesh, esp. if conditions favor them, but on the ground they may not deliver as per expectations 

 

 

 

Edited December 17, 2018 by zen

[Global.Baba]

2 minutes ago, zen said:

Unfortunately, a lot of guys select players based on what happened in Aus years ago for e.g. KL scores a 100, Vijay and Rahane average high, etc., overlooking current form .... Though Rahane has looked relatively better than the other two 

 

Aus was a great opportunity to try some new batsmen. Unfortunately Shaw got injured, but could have included Agarwal earlier and may be fast tracked Gill 

 

Like Vijay, KL and Rahane. Other players who look good on paper are Ashwin, Jadeja and Bhuvi esp if conditions do not favor them 

 

 

 

Forget his form or how he looked in the first test, it was about his attitude. Kohli and to some extent Pujara you can expect to deliver a clutch knock, Rahane is just onthe bridge between top order and lower order which comes with a lot of responsibility. His irresponsible game should not go unnoticed. As someone mentioned the other day, his contributions tend to get overrated. A mental midget if there was one.

[rtmohanlal]

Rahane is the Sourav Ganguly of this team . As of now  his performance in SENA is still very good in itself.Ganguly had the added responsibility of captaining the side,he was a left hander,he faced superior quality bowling in general, WI too was a very good side in Ganguly era, despite all considered Rahane has a better all round record in SENA compared to Ganguly. Also in this series too he played a crucial part in Adelaide win. That being said, his approach was far from adequate from the view point of a winning team. When Kohli got out, it was his responsibility  to stay as long as possible . Might be he had some method just as in the 1st inns, but in both the inns he fell short of the eventual  required runs from the team point of view.In the first inns too, a bit more at the least was expected of him, at the least a  further 24  runs from  him would have gone a long way along with  out the madness of that dumb ass moron Kumar Dharmasena   in  India even winning the match .But as it stands now we are sure to lose this test.

So despite Rahane meeting his own target  of 81 runs, it is clear that from a team point of view that is inadequate.That is why I  always  maintain that team management  should always be on the look out  for better players to suit the team purpose,I mean just because they have a  Rahane who avg:s 41.5 at no:5 position, they should  keep on doing the trial and error method  to find a replacement who can avg:   even 50+  from that position.

 

Having said this Rahane has still 2 more tests to compensate. If IND wins the series with him avg:ing  45+ by the end of this all, I  would feel he would have done his part  to perfection.

Edited December 17, 2018 by rtmohanlal

[Cricketics]

Pethetic petition when you don’t have two proper openers and your all rounder is injured. We don’t have luxury to drop our any of number 3,4 or 5 in that scenario. 

 

Just hang tight and worry about other slots. Rahane is here to stay until other places are resolved.

 

 

 

 

[The Realist]

10 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Pethetic petition when you don’t have two proper openers and your all rounder is injured. We don’t have luxury to drop our any of number 3,4 or 5 in that scenario. 

 

Just hang tight and worry about other slots. Rahane is here to stay until other places are resolved.

 

 

 

 

Why?

If this team fails to win in Aus then that will be 3 consecutive overseas series lost in a year and it will need serious gutting.

A new cycle will need to start with younger and hungrier players, passengers like Rahane will need throwing out to make way for the next generation. 

[The Realist]

1 hour ago, Global.Baba said:

Rahane’s approach yesterday was disgusting.

 

Dumb and pointless. As a senior bat he had to stick around for Vihari and Pant to guide them.

 

Rather than doing that he came swinging like it was the final overs of a T20 game. 

 

He was flaying the ball around. No game awareness whatsoever.

 

He is the culprit in this final innings. 

 

How can he be relied upon as one of your seniormost members?

 

Had he got a Jaffa or if it was a technical deficiency would have made sense but getting out the way he did was inexcusable.

 

For this alone he needs to be dropped

 

Shame he didn't come out swinging in the semi-finals of the T20WC v WI when his pathetic run a ball innings cost the match. 

 

[putrevus]

Rahane and Rahul scored on grounds which were flat pancakes, that is no indiacation of their talent. Rahane is not in class of Pujara.Pujara you could see his grit coming thru even when he was struggling.Rahane is a very weird guy, he plays too many shots in tests but not enough in other formats.

[Global.Baba]

38 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Pethetic petition when you don’t have two proper openers and your all rounder is injured. We don’t have luxury to drop our any of number 3,4 or 5 in that scenario. 

 

Just hang tight and worry about other slots. Rahane is here to stay until other places are resolved.

 

 

 

 

Because it was poor  and irresponsible batting. Rishabh Pant is young and inexperienced and when he is getting criticized for hoicking when not required why not Rahane?

 

And people saying Rahane made some great contribution to the Adelaide Win, he scored a half-century. Since when is that an unexpected performance from an experienced no.5. It wasn’t like he played a Dravid- Laxman type knock. Sure Pujara’s knock was clutch or Bumrah’s relentless spell. Rahane’s contribution wasn’t any greater than Ashwin’s 6 wickets which in itself was an average performer from your sole spinner.

Edited December 17, 2018 by Global.Baba

[Cricketics]

2 hours ago, The Realist said:

Why?

If this team fails to win in Aus then that will be 3 consecutive overseas series lost in a year and it will need serious gutting.

A new cycle will need to start with younger and hungrier players, passengers like Rahane will need throwing out to make way for the next generation. 

You did not write any of this in your op that we are talking about home series. At home of course we can rotate but we can not have 5 new batsmen batting with Kohli, we just can’t. We have to give him a senior or two and transition slowly. First transition starts with opener. Dhawan is well out of the team for goos and we are finding repalcement for Vijay. Once we have done that, we can worry about Pujara and Rahane.

 

Till then Rahane will be part of my team at least for any overseas test. If we have some solid players like Vihari cementing their place once given chance at home, then surely they can permanently replace.

 

ODIis a different story but in test I can’t have 5 newbies at a time in a line up. Mazak nahi ho raha.  This is test cricket. These guys took us to number 1, whether they failed or whatever recently.

 

[putrevus]

9 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

You did not write any of this in your op that we are talking about home series. At home of course we can rotate but we can not have 5 new batsmen batting with Kohli, we just can’t. We have to give him a senior or two and transition slowly. First transition starts with opener. Dhawan is well out of the team for goos and we are finding repalcement for Vijay. Once we have done that, we can worry about Pujara and Rahane.

 

Till then Rahane will be part of my team at least for any overseas test. If we have some solid players like Vihari cementing their place once given chance at home, then surely they can permanently replace.

 

ODIis a different story but in test I can’t have 5 newbies at a time in a line up. Mazak nahi ho raha.  This is test cricket. These guys took us to number 1, whether they failed or whatever recently.

 

Sorry you cannot have a team with 3 out 5 batsmen under 42 average.Openers along with Rahane are the biggest culprits for all these losses.

[prasen82]

lets sort out the openers first and then come to rahane.. wholesale chopping not needed. get one steady opener and the other will fall in place. once we have that, rahane will also thrive... 

 

sadly rahul turned out to be a sheep in lions hide.. needs to go back to domestics.. with warming enches fr one year and having shastri and bangar as mentors he has regressed terribly.. needs to go back to ranji and A team and be under dravid for a year to sort out mental issues. 

 

till then rahane can stay.. for now lets play pujara as opener and try out one more opener. stack the lower order with 2 bowling all rounders ( jadeja/ashwin and pandya). that will tilt the scales. we will have 4 pace bowlers and one spinner and one part timer...

[Switchblade]

Dreadful body language and not someone on whom we can rely on when we have to chase a total he chokes badly.

[Trichromatic]

In last 6 months, these players have faced the sword of fans

 

1. Dhawan

2. Rahul

3. Pujara

4. Rahane

5. xyz keeper

6. Pandya

7. Ashwin

8. Jadeja

9. Yadav

10. Ishant

11. Shami

 

Only players without any questions are Kohli and Bumrah.

[Yoda-esque]

Rahane is not the ptoblem rught now.
Openers are.That and a number 8 bowler that can bat

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[Trichromatic]

Some of West Indies hack batsmen try to bat like that.

[CSK Fan]

27 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

In last 6 months, these players have faced the sword of fans

 

1. Dhawan

2. Rahul

3. Pujara

4. Rahane

5. xyz keeper

6. Pandya

7. Ashwin

8. Jadeja

9. Yadav

10. Ishant

11. Shami

 

Only players without any questions are Kohli and Bumrah.

Add bhuvi there