Dhoni scored 141 runs in his first Aus tour, can Pant score more?

[Trichromatic]

MSD got 141 runs in 4 matches, hackboy has 116 in 2 matches so far.

 

Predict and discuss.

[Austin 3:!6]

No its unfair on Pant to be compared to an ATG player like Dhoni. MSD is once in a generation player and top 5 keeper bat world has ever seen. Pant will do good in his career if he can achieve 50% of Dhoni's success.

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[rkt.india]

1 minute ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

No its unfair on Pant to be compared to an ATG player like Dhoni. MSD is once in a generation player and top 5 keeper bat world has ever seen. Pant will do good in his career if he can achieve 50% of Dhoni's success.

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Pant is already a better test bat than Dhoni.

[CSK Fan]

3 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

No its unfair on Pant to be compared to an ATG player like Dhoni. MSD is once in a generation player and top 5 keeper bat world has ever seen. Pant will do good in his career if he can achieve 50% of Dhoni's success.

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Msd was definitely not ATG in tests by any standards. Also as a keeper he was pretty average in tests against seamers, wouldn't even go for most wide catches 

[The Dark Horse]

4 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

No its unfair on Pant to be compared to an ATG player like Dhoni. MSD is once in a generation player and top 5 keeper bat world has ever seen. Pant will do good in his career if he can achieve 50% of Dhoni's success.

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Dhoni was not so good in tests so it’s very much comparable. He was bang average in tests.

[Austin 3:!6]

Pant is already a better test bat than Dhoni.

No he is not and never will be. Dont just go by records, cricket is much more to it. That 100 in Eng was a fluke anyway. Pant is just an ugly slogger and though MSD didnt had a copy book technique either, he had much more assured defence and stroke play. A younger Dhoni wipes the floor with 10 Rishabh Pant's

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[sergio04]

Rishabh is already better in tests.

[SK_IH]

6 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Pant is already a better test bat than Dhoni.

I don't know if trolling or you mean it. If you mean, can you explain?

[SK_IH]

Pant, just like Rahul is a disappointment.He may have talent to overtahe MSD, but lacks temperament at the moment surely.

[beetle]

4 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

9 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Pant is already a better test bat than Dhoni.

No he is not and never will be.

That is just fanpanti....

[The Dark Horse]

6 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

No he is not and never will be. Dont just go by records, cricket is much more to it. That 100 in Eng was a fluke anyway. Pant is just an ugly slogger and though MSD didnt had a copy book technique either, he had much more assured defence and stroke play. A younger Dhoni wipes the floor with 10 Rishabh Pant's

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May be, but there's not much difference honestly. I can hardly remember any match winning/match saving innings from Dhoni. Pant on the other hand is just starting and may well overtake Dhoni.

[Austin 3:!6]

That is just fanpanti....

Sister Beetle, its not fanpanti. I just dont see any signs in him that in future he will surpass MSD. Some players give that wow factor from beginning. For eg., just by looking at Prithvi Shaw one can say he will be a top batsman in future. At the moment, I am yet to see anything special in Pant. He gets out by same leg side slogging game after game. No off side game. His batting reminds me of poor man's Raina.

 

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[rtmohanlal]

give him more time ... he has it  in him to succeed .... even in the 2nd inns here, he discarded a few runs to shield tail enders. He avg:s almost 30 in 4 inns in AUS .For a 20 year old, he is doing perfectly. Don't blame him for the short comings of proven hacks like  Rahul,Vijay,Pujara,Rahane,Umesh etc. And these are not  easy batting conditions either. Even the great Kohli  hasn't avg:ed 45 as of now in this series. That's where a rookie 20 year old wk  is being blamed for his 30 avg: . Some people's sense

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[Number]

Dhoni was pretty much a tailender outside SC. Dont want Pant to have such low standards.

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

There's got to be other wicketkeepers in India who are less unreliable than Pant. Pant coming in at 7 gives no confidence whatsoever. Maybe KS Bharat needs to be given a look-in in Tests.

[Laaloo]

17 minutes ago, beetle said:

That is just fanpanti....

Take fan out and insert other word there

[rkt.india]

22 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

I don't know if trolling or you mean it. If you mean, can you explain?

 can't have a better reply to what @Austin 3:!6 posted. Dhoni overseas was bang average anyway and I am sure pant can do as good as Dhoni at home. Already started doing that. Dhoni averages 18-20 in Australia.  Pant has already done better than that.

[rkt.india]

6 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

There's got to be other wicketkeepers in India who are less unreliable than Pant. Pant coming in at 7 gives no confidence whatsoever. Maybe KS Bharat needs to be given a look-in in Tests.

Dhoni coming in at 7 gave you confidence?

[Austin 3:!6]

give him more time ... he has it  in him to succeed .... even in the 2nd inns here, he discarded a few runs to shield tail enders. He avg:s almost 30 in 4 inns in AUS .For a 20 year old, he is doing perfectly. Don't blame him for the short comings of proven hacks like  Rahul,Vijay,Pujara,Rahane,Umesh etc. And these are not  easy batting conditions either. Even the great Kohli  hasn't avg:ed 45 as of now in this series. That's where a rookie 20 year old wk  is being blamed for his 30 avg: . Some people's sense:wp22:

Lol...and what was he shielding tailender for today? This is where maturity comes. Its not as if India would have won the game anyway. Rather than cluttering his mind with the thought of saving Umesh, he should have just batted normally. Take it as a batting practice for next test. If he had done that, we might have batted little more than 1 hour. But he decided to go for ugly slog and got out same fashion again.

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[zen]

Melbourne and Sydney could get relatively easier for batting so Pant has a chance to score a 50 or a 100 (a decent chance of getting one good knock in potential 4 innings)