Are we missing Pandya already?

[Khota]

13 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Pandya has already shown and scored them. Vihari yet too.

One fluky 90 and rest is all trash.

[Khota]

10 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

We are going to miss third seamer, make no mistake about it.

No.

 

13 minutes ago, Vijy said:

yes, he will do so. probably will be an "unpleasant" surprise though (like lords).

So negative.

[rkt.india]

4 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

I'm talking long term. The expectation from Vihari isn't to score at an average of 20-odd. It is to score at an average of 35+. If he doesn't, bring in someone else who will.

Same with Pandya. I do expect him to average 35 which is good for an alrounder. Vihari should be averaging 40+ for a specialist batsman.

[Rightarmfast]

22 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Which means not much difference and pandya also brings a seam bowling option. Selection blunder in this game might cost us the game.

Except that cricket is not played on paper or looking at stats. Vihari has already showed that he is a dependable player and has a better technique. While Pandya has no such qualities in either batting or bowling. Vihari has already played in Australia and has done relatively well. 

[Khota]

6 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

Except that cricket is not played on paper or looking at stats. Vihari has already showed that he is a dependable player and has a better technique. While Pandya has no such qualities in either batting or bowling. Vihari has already played in Australia and has done relatively well. 

I have bolded your statement so that others can reread it. If people are comparing Pandyas batting with Vihari then there is a real disconnect in real life.

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

4 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Vihari should be averaging 40+ for a specialist batsman.

I mean in SENA. Even 35+ would be acceptable as a No. 6 batsman. Should average 50+ in subcontinent.

[express bowling]

4 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

No commentator is talking about it.

No one is missing him on social media.

Even on ICF no one else is missing him.

 

Sourav Ganguly wrote about missing Pandya in the team because Ishant is unfit and Pandya would have given us a 3rd pacer.

 

Fact is  ...  playing just 2 pacers in Australia is a wrong combination selection.  We maybe saved because are batting first and may create scoreboard pressure.  But what if we lost the toss and bowled first  ?

 

Pandya, the batsman, would not have been any worse than Rahul in his current form ... and would have given us a 3rd pacer.

 

Moreover ... what was the need to fly him in if he is not to be played even when we are playing just 2 quicks   ??

Edited January 3, 2019 by express bowling

[Bigg Brother]

Nobody is missing him except OP.

[express bowling]

Playing just 2 pacers is a big big gamble in Australia.

[GautiMaan]

Erm all those disagreeing with the OP how many times has two spinner strategy worked overseas

Given that Ishant is injured and Umesh is Umesh, this was a perfect time to play Pandya. 

 

[zen]

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Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
CA Pujara	4	7	1	401	123	66.83	1050	38.19	2	2	1	36	2
MA Agarwal	2	3	0	195	77	65.00	375	52.00	0	2	0	19	5
V Kohli	4	7	0	282	123	40.28	684	41.22	1	1	1	31	1
RG Sharma	2	4	1	106	63*	35.33	199	53.26	0	1	0	7	3
AM Rahane	4	7	1	208	70	34.66	438	47.48	0	2	0	18	3
RR Pant	4	6	0	191	39	31.83	284	67.25	0	0	0	16	4
GH Vihari	3	4	0	69	28	17.25	232	29.74	0	0	0	7	0
R Ashwin	1	2	0	30	25	15.00	94	31.91	0	0	0	1	0
M Vijay	2	4	0	49	20	12.25	154	31.81	0	0	1	4	0
KL Rahul	3	5	0	57	44	11.40	102	55.88	0	0	1	5	1

 

4 batsmen in the 11 with sub 35 avg 

[rkt.india]

7 minutes ago, zen said:

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CA Pujara	4	7	1	401	123	66.83	1050	38.19	2	2	1	36	2
MA Agarwal	2	3	0	195	77	65.00	375	52.00	0	2	0	19	5
V Kohli	4	7	0	282	123	40.28	684	41.22	1	1	1	31	1
RG Sharma	2	4	1	106	63*	35.33	199	53.26	0	1	0	7	3
AM Rahane	4	7	1	208	70	34.66	438	47.48	0	2	0	18	3
RR Pant	4	6	0	191	39	31.83	284	67.25	0	0	0	16	4
GH Vihari	3	4	0	69	28	17.25	232	29.74	0	0	0	7	0
R Ashwin	1	2	0	30	25	15.00	94	31.91	0	0	0	1	0
M Vijay	2	4	0	49	20	12.25	154	31.81	0	0	1	4	0
KL Rahul	3	5	0	57	44	11.40	102	55.88	0	0	1	5	1

 

4 batsmen in the 11 with sub 35 avg 

3, not 4. Pant is a WK.

[zen]

Just now, rkt.india said:

3, not 4. Pant is a WK.

True .... but I look at Pant, whom I like to support, as an AR too so expect runs from him 

[cowboysfan]

lol at this guys supporters.I think he will go at 6 an over on these flat wickets,he has no bowling skill at all.

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

Except that cricket is not played on paper or looking at stats. Vihari has already showed that he is a dependable player and has a better technique. While Pandya has no such qualities in either batting or bowling. Vihari has already played in Australia and has done relatively well. 

While Pandya has shown he can stick and score runs as well. It is all about runs.  Otherwise, no one had a better technique than Akash Chopra. 

 

Averaging 17 is doing relatively well for you?  I am a big supporter of Vihari and not writing him off.  But my issue is Pandya should have played because we are playing just 2 seamers.  It will put a huge load on those two and no one knows what Kuldeep will bring. We are at best playing 3 bowlers this game.  i am not confident of Kuldeep be able to bowl 10 good overs an innings after Lords disaster.  Happy to be proven wrong if he does. 

 

Also, I will take runs any day over technique.  

[rkt.india]

4 minutes ago, cowboysfan said:

lol at this guys supporters.I think he will go at 6 an over on these flat wickets,he has no bowling skill at all.

pitches have not been flat this series.

[cowboysfan]

1 minute ago, rkt.india said:

pitches have not been flat this series.

its flat enough,its hard work for the bowlers and only bowlers with high skills and brains will get wickets and Pandya has neither.

[zen]

Just now, cowboysfan said:

its flat enough,its hard work for the bowlers and only bowlers with high skills and brains will get wickets and Pandya has neither.

He will do the 5th bowlers job well. And he avgs 60+ with the bat in decent batting conditions 

 

Also is in good shape. Recently scored 80+ and picked up a 5-er in his return to domestics post injury 

[Rightarmfast]

8 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

While Pandya has shown he can stick and score runs as well. It is all about runs.  Otherwise, no one had a better technique than Akash Chopra. 

 

Averaging 17 is doing relatively well for you?  I am a big supporter of Vihari and not writing him off.  But my issue is Pandya should have played because we are playing just 2 seamers.  It will put a huge load on those two and no one knows what Kuldeep will bring. We are at best playing 3 bowlers this game.  i am not confident of Kuldeep be able to bowl 10 good overs an innings after Lords disaster.  Happy to be proven wrong if he does. 

 

Also, I will take runs any day over technique.  

Sure, for that Pandya has to score runs against good bowlers which he cant.

[rkt.india]

6 minutes ago, cowboysfan said:

its flat enough,its hard work for the bowlers and only bowlers with high skills and brains will get wickets and Pandya has neither.

Pandya does have skills with the ball. He can  move the ball both ways and also bowls a good bouncer.  His bowling actually perfect for Australian conditions.