Hardik Pandya and KL Rahul suspended pending inquiry for their comments in Koffee with Karan

[MechEng]

Aur lao feminism. With reservation quota and pseudo female empowerment on rise, emigrate somewhere else.

[beetle]

3 minutes ago, MechEng said:

Aur lao feminism. With reservation quota and pseudo female empowerment on rise, emigrate somewhere else.

[MechEng]

2 minutes ago, beetle said:

Ok 

 

 

[maniac]

People  who are getting hyped up about feminism,racism,misogyny etc etc on both sides of the argument are missing the simple point the idiot came across as a total obnoxious tool with no basic sense of how to carry himself.  That is the basic premise. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

‘If Hardik Pandya was a woman, she would be hailed as a sexual revolutionary’

 

am amused by the kind of things that angers us Indians. The latest being cricketer Hardik Pandya getting ‘called out’ for his statements on Koffee with Karan.

Journalists and intellectuals have been dissecting the terribly important talk that Hardik Pandya delivered on the show. This chatter was then picked up by news sites that lurk around cyberspace like out-of-work dementors, sniffing for outrage.They then splashed their ad-ridden sites with articles and editorials on what he should and shouldn’t have said.

As a journalist, it makes me feel ashamed.

Koffee with Karan is a sleazy, silly show where the host gets his friends to reveal how many times they sleep with whom and on which days of the week. Running through the show’s invitees will give you an idea into the depth of the show – Fardeen Khan, Zayed Khan, Rakhi Sawant and Himesh bhai. The tagline of the show is Stop Making Sense, not Aman Ki Asha. 

Are we really going to intellectualise that show? What next? A psychoanalytic conference on Sasuraal Simar Ka? The Freudian slant in Bhabiji Ghar Pe Hain? What even is going on?

I am sick of the politically correct nature of Indian media. They play this stern, moralistic hostel warden, running around and telling people what to think. Hardik likes women and brags about his exploits – so what? If a woman did it, she would be hailed as a sexual revolutionary. And why do we expect every cricketer to behave like Bharat Ratna Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar?

And what gives these journalists the right to judge these people? Are they all perfect in thought, word and action? Or assuming they become massively-followed millionaire celebrities tomorrow, will they all become perfect role models?

Role model—that’s always the word thrown around, isn’t it? Cricketers are role models. In fact, everybody is a role model in our country. Actors must be role models. Parents, teachers, elders, writers, their neighbours, the milkman —every person in this country needs to be a role model. I don’t get it.

Role model for kids, apparently.

Pray, who are these kids learning life-lessons from Koffee with Karan?

If that’s where you’re looking, I’m sorry but you’re a kid whose life looks bleak anyway. How long are we going to throw this dumb, carcass of a logic that people are affected by TV, films and books?

It is this stupid logic that has led to our films coming with cuts and disclaimers. It’s the reason why television shows in India cater to the intelligence levels of orangutans.

People can be influenced by anything. Dayanand Saraswati saw a rat eat a laddoo and decided to eradicate the caste system from the country. Sanjay Gandhi travelled to Europe and got inspired to dump half a million people on the other side of the Yamuna overnight. How does it matter who gets influenced by what?

This politically correct nature of Indian media is (like most things) a rip-off the sickening PC culture in the West. Appallingly, we in India have way more important issues than flipping out over what an actor said.

And why should Hardik Pandya apologise for his statements?

What is this culture of bullying someone for what they said? This is not very different from what Right-wing trolls do to people like Naseeruddin Shah. It was something he said, to a pointed question, on a talk show that is meant to be sleazy. He was not in the Lok Sabha, for heaven’s sake!

Till a decade ago, our popular culture had normalised stalking and following women. A lot of us English-speaking urban people have moved beyond and called that out because we had access to education, exposure and there’s no other way to say it – privilege.

That’s the thing about PC culture. It consists of enlightened people who realised something about the world, and WHAM! They want everybody to fall in line, irrespective of their upbringing or roots.

Hardik Pandya studied till Class 9. In Surat.

He then moved to Baroda as a kid, playing cricket for schools and leagues till he and his brother earned money and fame for their family through their skills. He did this till he ranked among the 11 best cricketers in the country by the age of 22.

And now you expect him to become an exemplary citizen, a role model?

Thanks to the outrage, BCCI has sent a showcause notice to him, and might ban cricketers from non-cricketing talk shows. Does that make you enlightened people happy? Does it give you dil chandan sa thandak? 

Hardik Pandya is 25-years-old. He is paid to play cricket that is what is expected from him. If we all were good enough to be in Top 11 in India in what we did, we wouldn’t have the time to outrage over such dumb events.

Hardik Pandya isn’t paid enough to live up to your high moral standards. Nor is he morally obligated to be a role model for kids.

Go ahead, Hardik Pandya. Win matches, party, date women, have fun. If only just to piss off Twitterati.

 

Link - https://theprint.in/opinion/if-hardik-pandya-was-a-woman-she-would-be-hailed-as-a-sexual-revolutionary/175908/

Edited January 10, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[Laaloo]

8 minutes ago, maniac said:

People  who are getting hyped up about feminism,racism,misogyny etc etc on both sides of the argument are missing the simple point the idiot came across as a total obnoxious tool with no basic sense of how to carry himself.  That is the basic premise. 

Oh and he has no dressing sense and no hairstyle sense and he comes off as insecure because he tries too hard to be someone  he's not. Don't worry.Gujarat is filled with losers like him. I'll see it again this weekend. Baap ke paise pe aish Karne wale. Congress rule mein baap ne zameen bech di thi with paise pe ye log naachte hai. Badi badi shayari likhte hai. I've seen some one of the most weirdest poses these young kids make ok fb. They are cringeworthy.

 

And no I'm not jealous.

Edited January 10, 2019 by Laaloo

[MechEng]

8 minutes ago, maniac said:

People  who are getting hyped up about feminism,racism,misogyny etc etc on both sides of the argument are missing the simple point the idiot came across as a total obnoxious tool with no basic sense of how to carry himself.  That is the basic premise. 

I agree, there are hardly any cricketers today with old school values, Pujara being an exception, he's someone who time travelled from the 90s. But yehi hai ki misogynism ke naam pe men will get cornered and etc. 

Edited January 10, 2019 by MechEng

[maniac]

Just now, MechEng said:

I agree, there are hardly any cricketers today with old school values, Pujara being an exception, he's someone who time travelled from the 90s. But yehi hai ki misogynism ke naam pe men don't cornered and etc. 

You don’t have to put tilak and oil in your head and speak sanskaari language, there are plenty of ways to come across as charming and funny.

 

No one wants to see a personality of a dead fish but then no one wants to see someone who is obnoxious in a nails on a chalkboard kind of way either.

[Laaloo]

4 minutes ago, maniac said:

You don’t have to put tilak and oil in your head and speak sanskaari language, there are plenty of ways to come across as charming and funny.

 

No one wants to see a personality of a dead fish but then no one wants to see someone who is obnoxious in a nails on a chalkboard kind of way either.

I'm trying to find that picture where uthappa, Karthik and yuvi are checking out a reporters ass and Sachin is looking the other way

 

[maniac]

@Ankit_sharma03 works in Bollywood I guess. Hence he finds such behavior business as usual

[UrmiSinhaRay]

I think them getting banned or not depends on what bhabhi thinks of the issue

Lmaoo they not only chose Virat over Sachin , they chose other actresses over Bhabiji .
Ab toh Kohlike support bhi lose kiya.


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[maniac]

One question everyone missed,KL Rahul partying til 5:AM wtf is Bewda doing? Partying with him?

[zen]

29 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Koffee with Karan is a sleazy, silly show where the host gets his friends to reveal how many times they sleep with whom and on which days of the week. Running through the show’s invitees will give you an idea into the depth of the show – Fardeen Khan, Zayed Khan, Rakhi Sawant and Himesh bhai. The tagline of the show is Stop Making Sense, not Aman Ki Asha. ‘As a journalist, it makes me feel ashamed.

 

So the complain boxes also watch such shows for wrong reasons (and then complain) .... it is like going in to a comedy movie and then complaining it was not serious

Edited January 10, 2019 by zen

[Laaloo]

4 minutes ago, maniac said:

@Ankit_sharma03 works in Bollywood I guess. Hence he finds such behavior business as usual

Yeah I'm not surprised. Maybe he sees worse things in the industry and doesn't take to offence what happened on this show

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

43 minutes ago, maniac said:

@Ankit_sharma03 works in Bollywood I guess. Hence he finds such behavior business as usual

yes i do , n m srry what do u mean by he works in bollywood so he finds this usual

Shud i say u havent been exposed to a lot in life so seeing the world from ur small bubble

N again what behaviour ??? 

Ur the one who wants to tell someone how to behave so the problem is their

UR the one who gets offended on small thing.....how soft are u that KWK show affected ur life so badly

Edited January 10, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[Ankit_sharma03]

39 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

Yeah I'm not surprised. Maybe he sees worse things in the industry and doesn't take to offence what happened on this show

 

If we start to take offence in small things , actually we do as society and that why we have been fooled from ages

Real issues se dhyaan bhatkaana ho aise faltu baaton pe khoon kholo

 

Ill tell u what i see ....no matter how big a person at the end he is just human being and every human being has flaws....stop making gods out of humans n expect them to be flawless. At least these guys are honest .....their are so called role models in this world who are so **** but present a diff image .

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

Koffee with Karan is a sleazy, silly show where the host gets his friends to reveal how many times they sleep with whom and on which days of the week. Running through the show’s invitees will give you an idea into the depth of the show – Fardeen Khan, Zayed Khan, Rakhi Sawant and Himesh bhai. The tagline of the show is Stop Making Sense, not Aman Ki Asha. 

Are we really going to intellectualise that show? What next? A psychoanalytic conference on Sasuraal Simar Ka? The Freudian slant in Bhabiji Ghar Pe Hain? What even is going on?

I am sick of the politically correct nature of Indian media. They play this stern, moralistic hostel warden, running around and telling people what to think. Hardik likes women and brags about his exploits – so what? If a woman did it, she would be hailed as a sexual revolutionary. And why do we expect every cricketer to behave like Bharat Ratna Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar?

And what gives these journalists the right to judge these people? Are they all perfect in thought, word and action? Or assuming they become massively-followed millionaire celebrities tomorrow, will they all become perfect role models?

 

Pray, who are these kids learning life-lessons from Koffee with Karan?

 

Hardik Pandya studied till Class 9. In Surat.

He then moved to Baroda as a kid, playing cricket for schools and leagues till he and his brother earned money and fame for their family through their skills. He did this till he ranked among the 11 best cricketers in the country by the age of 22.

And now you expect him to become an exemplary citizen, a role model?

Thanks to the outrage, BCCI has sent a showcause notice to him, and might ban cricketers from non-cricketing talk shows. Does that make you enlightened people happy? Does it give you dil chandan sa thandak? 

 

Will end my side from these statement as above

 

The article above pretty much says everything i wanna say

[Nikola]

49 minutes ago, maniac said:

One question everyone missed,KL Rahul partying til 5:AM wtf is Bewda doing? Partying with him?

Kumble was coach during that tenure i guess. He was talking about t20 matches which happened in USA after test series in west indies in 2016. That was first series for kumble i guess. It's not coach's job to keep an eye on which player is doing what at night maybe manager or other person should be held responsible.

[flamy]

Sheeesh, a ban is OTT.

 

It is disgusting how the snowflake culture is imported from the west.

 

There is no room for balance, or measured responses at all. Everything is overblown reaction.

 

HP made a total fool of himself, and is exposed as the dumbass he is. He will learn from this that being a public figure, your freedom of speech is curtailed.

 

But, a ban? He didn't harm anyone, so that's just oversensitive trigger reactions.

[beetle]

2 hours ago, MechEng said:

I agree, there are hardly any cricketers today with old school values, Pujara being an exception, he's someone who time travelled from the 90s. But yehi hai ki misogynism ke naam pe men will get cornered and etc. 

Why do you feel so ?

Bumrah,bhuvi ,kuldeep and others all carry themselves well. Infact,except for these two.....most newer players are fine.