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29 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Koffee with Karan is a sleazy, silly show where the host gets his friends to reveal how many times they sleep with whom and on which days of the week. Running through the show’s invitees will give you an idea into the depth of the show – Fardeen Khan, Zayed Khan, Rakhi Sawant and Himesh bhai. The tagline of the show is Stop Making Sense, not Aman Ki Asha. ‘As a journalist, it makes me feel ashamed.

 

So the complain boxes also watch such shows for wrong reasons (and then complain) .... it is like going in to a comedy movie and then complaining it was not serious :lol:

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43 minutes ago, maniac said:

@Ankit_sharma03 works in Bollywood I guess. Hence he finds such behavior business as usual

yes i do , n m srry what do u mean by he works in bollywood so he finds this usual

Shud i say u havent been exposed to a lot in life so seeing the world from ur small bubble

N again what behaviour ??? 

Ur the one who wants to tell someone how to behave so the problem is their

UR the one who gets offended on small thing.....how soft are u that KWK show affected ur life so badly

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39 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

Yeah I'm not surprised. Maybe he sees worse things in the industry and doesn't take to offence what happened on this show

 

If we start to take offence in small things , actually we do as society and that why we have been fooled from ages

Real issues se dhyaan bhatkaana ho aise faltu baaton pe khoon kholo

 

Ill tell u what i see ....no matter how big a person at the end he is just human being and every human being has flaws....stop making gods out of humans n expect them to be flawless. At least these guys are honest .....their are so called role models in this world who are so **** but present a diff image .

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1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

Koffee with Karan is a sleazy, silly show where the host gets his friends to reveal how many times they sleep with whom and on which days of the week. Running through the show’s invitees will give you an idea into the depth of the show – Fardeen Khan, Zayed Khan, Rakhi Sawant and Himesh bhai. The tagline of the show is Stop Making Sense, not Aman Ki Asha. 

Are we really going to intellectualise that show? What next? A psychoanalytic conference on Sasuraal Simar Ka? The Freudian slant in Bhabiji Ghar Pe Hain? What even is going on?

I am sick of the politically correct nature of Indian media. They play this stern, moralistic hostel warden, running around and telling people what to think. Hardik likes women and brags about his exploits – so what? If a woman did it, she would be hailed as a sexual revolutionary. And why do we expect every cricketer to behave like Bharat Ratna Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar?

And what gives these journalists the right to judge these people? Are they all perfect in thought, word and action? Or assuming they become massively-followed millionaire celebrities tomorrow, will they all become perfect role models?

 

Pray, who are these kids learning life-lessons from Koffee with Karan?

 

Hardik Pandya studied till Class 9. In Surat.

He then moved to Baroda as a kid, playing cricket for schools and leagues till he and his brother earned money and fame for their family through their skills. He did this till he ranked among the 11 best cricketers in the country by the age of 22.

And now you expect him to become an exemplary citizen, a role model?

Thanks to the outrage, BCCI has sent a showcause notice to him, and might ban cricketers from non-cricketing talk shows. Does that make you enlightened people happy? Does it give you dil chandan sa thandak? 

 

Will end my side from these statement as above

 

The article above pretty much says everything i wanna say

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49 minutes ago, maniac said:

One question everyone missed,KL Rahul partying til 5:AM wtf is Bewda doing? Partying with him?

Kumble was coach during that tenure i guess. He was talking about t20 matches which happened in USA after test series in west indies in 2016. That was first series for kumble i guess. It's not coach's job to keep an eye on which player is doing what at night maybe manager or other person should be held responsible.

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Sheeesh, a ban is OTT.

 

It is disgusting how the snowflake culture is imported from the west.

 

There is no room for balance, or measured responses at all. Everything is overblown reaction.

 

HP made a total fool of himself, and is exposed as the dumbass he is. He will learn from this that being a public figure, your freedom of speech is curtailed.

 

But, a ban? He didn't harm anyone, so that's just oversensitive trigger reactions.

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2 hours ago, MechEng said:

I agree, there are hardly any cricketers today with old school values, Pujara being an exception, he's someone who time travelled from the 90s. But yehi hai ki misogynism ke naam pe men will get cornered and etc. 

Why do you feel so ?

Bumrah,bhuvi ,kuldeep and others all carry themselves well. Infact,except for these two.....most newer players are fine.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

UR the one who gets offended on small thing.....how soft are u that KWK show affected ur life so badly

Agree, Pata nahi Pandya ke comments ne enki personal life main Kya problem khadi kar di. Etna Gussa toh mujhe Pandya -Jadeja ke run out ke time pe bhi nahi aaya tha. 

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Why do you feel so ?
Bumrah,bhuvi ,kuldeep and others all carry themselves well. Infact,except for these two.....most newer players are fine.
 
 
Bumrah comes off as a bit insecure else others are fine

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2-match ban is ridiculous. CoA/Vinod Rai is foolish. As a commoner, I can judge him the way I want.But a simple slap on the wrist was ok. They didn't assault anybody to give them match bans.

 

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25726924/hardik-pandya-kl-rahul-likely-suspended

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I'm late to this discussion, but Pandya shamed himself in this crap.  Do what you want with your personal life, but to brag on natonal TV about being barely literate, and being a total slut who chases women with just one thing in mind, is pathetic.  Whether you are liberal or conservative, you cannot deny the fact that there are responsibilities involved when you represent your country in a sport.  Like it or not, you end up being in the public spotlight, and whether you want to be one or not, you are a role model.  It is not too much to ask, to conduct yourself with a modicum of dignity.  

 

Is a match ban fair or unfair? I'm not sure, but some punishment is definitely required.  

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9 minutes ago, sandeep said:

I'm late to this discussion, but Pandya shamed himself in this crap.  Do what you want with your personal life, but to brag on natonal TV about being barely literate, and being a total slut who chases women with just one thing in mind, is pathetic.  Whether you are liberal or conservative, you cannot deny the fact that there are responsibilities involved when you represent your country in a sport.  Like it or not, you end up being in the public spotlight, and whether you want to be one or not, you are a role model.  It is not too much to ask, to conduct yourself with a modicum of dignity.  

 

Is a match ban fair or unfair? I'm not sure, but some punishment is definitely required.  

I dont get this at all.why is a sportsperson held to such high standard when politicians etc are literally getting away with murder.The only thing Pandya is guilty of is being a dumbass.

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I think since many in Ind like to apes west. BCCI may try to do a la ACB to sound tough :lol: 

 

KL (because of his success in IPL) and Pandya are hot LOI players that make the game interesting. Below is the squad for OZ-NZ LOI tour:

 

  • Consistent mature products: Kohli, Rohit and Dhawan (hardly going to set the blood rushing. these guys scoring another 50+ score is hardly that exciting) 
  • Refurbished / recycled products: MS Dhoni, Rayudu, Jadeja and Bhuvi (many will not watch or care when these guys are on) :yawn2:
  • Neutral / new players: DK (though not as effective in ODIs as he is in T20s), Jadhav, Chahal, and Khaleel (many times they are filling the slots)
  • Exciting to watch players: KL (will he click), Pandya (high SR player, acrobatic fielder, quick bowler), Shami (will he go for wkts or runs), Kuldeep (will he leave the batsmen clueless), and Bumrah. New guys like Agarwal, Shaw and Gill can create some excitement as well as fans would want to see how they progress 

 

With Bumrah rested, banning KL and Pandya will bring the excitement down esp. since these are not ICC events    

 

 

 

 

 

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47 minutes ago, cowboysfan said:

I dont get this at all.why is a sportsperson held to such high standard when politicians etc are literally getting away with murder.The only thing Pandya is guilty of is being a dumbass.

Whataboutism is always an ineffective argument.  Pandya has a right to be as much of a slut, a gawaar, or a dumbass as he wants to be.  The point is that he shouldn't be bragging about being those things on TV.  That's the violation of his employment contract with the Indian cricket team - in letter and spirit.  And that's why he deserves punishment.  I still don't know if a ban is the right call, because it hurts the team.  

 

39 minutes ago, zen said:

What is funny is many folks in Ind thought that a ban on Smith and Warner, even though they were cheating when representing the team, was too harsh .... while KL and Pandya, who went on a dumb show in personal capacity should be banned :lol: 

I always said that the bans on Aussie players were too harsh - because they were so long - a game or 5 game ban wouldn't have been harsh.  I'm one of the few on ICF who back Pandya a lot on ICF, along with you.  But you simply cannot defend, or wish away, the indefensible.

 

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I do not watch Indian shows but hope that ppl don't waste their time on such stuff in India:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

^ Appears to be the crowd many of the cricketers hang out with :lol: .... many in Ind could switch to watching such thing after venting frustrations against Pandya :dontknow: 

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8 minutes ago, zen said:

Appears to be the crowd many of the cricketers hang out with :lol: .... many in Ind could switch to watching such thing after venting frustrations against Pandya

More whataboutism.  word of unsolicited advice - when you catch yourself doing whataboutism or strawman arguments, you may be better off to stop digging.  

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2 hours ago, Number said:

Ban is just OTT. 

Banana cricket board run by CoA.

Otoh Pandyas alternatives are Rishi Dhawan, Vijay Shankar and Binny. So saying we will not miss him is wrong.

Even BCCI babus support this. 

 

 

Cricbuzz:

 

Board secretary Amitabh Choudhary said: "Suspension must happen immediately." BCCI's acting president CK Khanna wrote: "Comments are crass and highly irresponsible. I suggest strict action." Board treasurer Anirudh Chaudhry too wrote a lengthy email, recalling how Cricket Australia acted with a sense of urgency in the case of Steven Smith and David Warner. He added that agents of players need to be regulated and as far as the punishment is concerned, "a two-match suspension seems to be only a stop-gap arrangement."

 

 

"The comments such as the ones that have been made would definitely have painted a large, red target on the back of the players for potential recruiters for the organized syndicates who attempt to indulge in match-fixing across the globe," stated Chaudhry in his email and suggested a sensitisation process. "The entire team and support staff must go through a sensitisation process. The (BCCI) CEO (Rahul Johri) may join them in the sensitisation as well as recommended by Ms. Veena Gowda, advocate."

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, zen said:

What is funny is many folks in Ind thought that a ban on Smith and Warner, even though they were cheating when representing the team, was too harsh .... while KL and Pandya, who went on a dumb show in personal capacity should be banned :lol: 

What is funny is when people cannot defend their sexist views, they build straw man after straw man and say whatever tangential thing they can throw. Weird how all the adults are in agreement, whether it's bcci, coa, kohli himself while the lonely incels online are making a million excuses about kl and pandaya 

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8 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Will end my side from these statement as above

 

The article above pretty much says everything i wanna say

If a woman did it, she will be hailed as a revolutionary - quote from the article 

 

 

That one sentence alone shows the agenda. In a country which is a hell hole for women, where women are demeaned in every walk of life and objectified, the article writers provides the same sexist view of men as victims and women as yet at getting away with stuff. There is a lot of such obvious sexism happening online nowadays, redpillers and incels in the U.S. are growing in number. Seems like same disease is affecting India and it's making it much worse 

 

I will repeat it again. Women are objectified in india which leads to them being victims in lots of things. Pandaya being  star will get away but the road side majnu will try emulating him and then throwing acid on women who don't reciprocate. They have learned this from bollywood heroes and now from pandaya 

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You guys are making this Karen popular. Nobody gave a sh1t about this guy before this happened. Now everyone is trying to tune into the show like its a tv serial. Disgusting. Staaaaaap it I say. This nonsense is spreading like a virus.

 

PS- If you think this is about cricket, I suggest you look into who the kaptan is married to and who is his agent. His agent has political connections too among both parties. And look who owns the IPL franchises. If you think cricket is isolated from bollywood and its shady mafia underworld, you are clearly mistaken. This could be something planned directly between BCCI and Bollywood and Pandya and KLR just playing roles like a movie star or big boss participant. And the people here discuss like old aunties discussing about TV series. :phehe:

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8 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

yes i do , n m srry what do u mean by he works in bollywood so he finds this usual

Shud i say u havent been exposed to a lot in life so seeing the world from ur small bubble

N again what behaviour ??? 

Ur the one who wants to tell someone how to behave so the problem is their

UR the one who gets offended on small thing.....how soft are u that KWK show affected ur life so badly

Yes in my small bubble I have never seen a guy tell his parent “aaj thok ke aaya” and parents going awwww. Be it in India or US among any race or culture. So yes this concept is new to me.

 

Pandya is no even a kid or a teenager he is a 26 year old man ffs. Is that normal behavior? You tell me.

 

Concept of companies “hiring” escorts or tolerating such behavior is also new to me in the bubble I have lived in. Sure might happen in some industries .A lot of perverted things happen in this world.  As far as I would imagine these things get swept under the carpet or when they make news it is always in a negative way.I have never seen anyone boast about it or wear it as a badge of honor.

 

I am sure this is a common occurrence in your worldwise travels.

 

Offended yes by his behavior. I am not even analyzing the casual racism or sexism because I don’t even want to get that far but  his behavior in general is annoying and obnoxious.

 

Affecting my life? You seriously have comprehension problems. I already said banning him for this stupidity is harsh however I am in agreement with most folks on this thread that this is obnoxious behavior.

 

The fact that you think this is normal is scary and If it is true I am happy to live in my bubble.

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14 hours ago, beetle said:

BCCI raises honey trap concerns after Hardik Pandya, Rahul boast of night outs on TV show

A senior BCCI official fears Hardik Pandya and KL Rahul could be targeted by bookies following their sensational and controversial comments on TV show Koffee With Karan.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/sports/cricket/story/hardik-pandya-kl-rahul-bcci-honey-trap-bookies-koffee-with-karan-tv-show-video-1427944-2019-01-10

 

 

Indeed, these two boys look soft targets for honey traps and probably they will look to try them for match fixing. Surveillance of cricket anti corruption team must be increased on them just to ensure things do not affect our cricket team goals.

 

Saw this in two newspapers today, this is making big news in print media as well as discussions in public between cricket fans . His PR team is meanwhile trying to clean up his image. 

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1 hour ago, CSK Fan said:

What is funny is when people cannot defend their sexist views, they build straw man after straw man and say whatever tangential thing they can throw. Weird how all the adults are in agreement, whether it's bcci, coa, kohli himself while the lonely incels online are making a million excuses about kl and pandaya 

Only kids make mountains out of molehills and give importance to such things .... may be it is a national issue for you guys (without any life) :dontknow:

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45 minutes ago, zen said:

Only kids make mountains out of molehills and give importance to such things .... may be it is a national issue for you guys (without any life) :dontknow:

What ? In India cricketers are really looked up to by the youth. Do you really think there is no problem here ? Imagine a young kid or girl listening to this show and what do they think ? Pandya seems to be damaged goods. He should keep to himself what he does in his private life. No need to go on national television and do this stuff. 

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I am really puzzled to know what kind of people even watch these kind of shows? What's so interesting to learn about their personal life styles? They are just a sportsmen. Expecting for them to be role models is silly and speaks volume about yourself. Only people with no life cares about such things. 

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Just now, gattaca said:

What ? In India cricketers are really look up to by the youth. Do you really think there is no problem here ? Imagine a young kid or girl listening to this show and what do they think ? Pandya seems to be damaged goods. He should keep to himself what he does in his private life. No need to go on national television and do this stuff. 

I don’t think anyone who values his/her time would watch such shows :winky:

 

The guys were probably just bluffing on the show to sound cool (from their perspective). There is a thread in CS about Saif Ali Khan saying that “give me money and take my daughter”. Do you think this is a serious comment by someone from a royal family? 

 

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2 minutes ago, zen said:

I don’t think anyone who values his/her time would watch such shows :winky:

 

The guys were probably just bluffing on the show to sound cool (from their perspective). There is a thread in CS about Saif Ali Khan saying that “give me money and take my daughter”. Do you think this is a serious comment by someone from a royal family? 

 

Yeah, it sounded mostly scripted made up stuff just to draw attention.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

If cricket wasn't national issue then these guys wouldn't been earning more than so called educated guys.

It is a sport not an issue .... top sportsmen in most fields earn a lot around world 

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1 minute ago, Trichromatic said:

Really?

 

How much top Frisbee player earns in India?

 

Top rugby player?

It is understood that I am talking about popular sports around the world 

 

Sports is not an issue. Ppl following it could be 

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2 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

There was no case to start with. Pandya just proved that he is dumb. 

 

That's it. End of story. Rest is upto BCCI to look into this.

That is fine if he is dumb (and who cares). My concern is on folks making mountains out of molehills (while some could be agenda driven)

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1 minute ago, zen said:

It is understood that I am talking about popular sports around the world 

 

Sports is not an issue. Ppl following it could be 

Yeah people following it are mostly middle class people having too much free time on their hand who make average cricketers millionaires and it's not good idea to disappoint them publicly.

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