zen Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) a thread on massive 15+ runs overs given Ind vs Aus ODI at Sydney 011119 Bhuvi’s last over RECENT 2 4 1 4 . 6 1w Edited January 12, 2019 by zen Real McCoy, velu and speedheat 2 1 Link to comment
zen Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 Bhuvi + Khaleel combo BOWLING O M R W ECON 0s 4s 6s WD NB B Kumar 10 0 66 2 6.60 30 7 2 1 0 KK Ahmed 8 0 55 0 6.87 21 6 0 2 2 SecondSlip, OpeningBatsman, Stan AF and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
Nikola Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) Can happen to even bumrah or kuldeep on their bad days but this guy has been pathetic since i started watching cricket and still keeps finding place. There is shami or many other alternatives in domestic cricket which can surely do better than him. Edited January 12, 2019 by Nikola OpeningBatsman and AuxiliA 1 1 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Easy for someone like Shami to bowl yorkers kn will who has played full month of test cricket and is in the rhythm. But when you carry gatorade which Bhuvi did and lack match practice for a month you can’t just come and get yorkers right everytime. It takes time. Bhuvi will get better. I think he did decent earlier. Deah bowling needs lot of match practice which he lacks. I think he will be ready for world cup. England are his conditons and he will do well there. Nikola 1 Link to comment
Pandya_Power Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 They were lucky to get away with it in this day and age. Bhuvi in particular didn't do anything wrong. Was very good in his first 7 overs, made the ball talk with that Finch dismissal on this dead wicket. Khaleel - tbh he exceeded my expectations in his first spell (except for the no-balls). Bowled good areas. Once he started pitching it short though. But there is enough there to work with, since he is still young and brings left arm variety. Link to comment
Nikola Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Cricketics said: Easy for someone like Shami to bowl yorkers kn will who has played full month of test cricket and is in the rhythm. But when you carry gatorade which Bhuvi did and lack match practice for a month you can’t just come and get yorkers right everytime. It takes time. Bhuvi will get better. I think he did decent earlier. Deah bowling needs lot of match practice which he lacks. I think he will be ready for world cup. England are his conditons and he will do well there. Because of these guys we had trundlers in past till current era bowlers. How much more matches to improve? Already given 100 matches and he is still avg at it's best. Have some shame those hard working bowlers in domestic cricket don't even get match to prove their worth in international cricket. vivek04, Jamadagni, Tridibans_16 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
zen Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Cricketics said: Easy for someone like Shami to bowl yorkers kn will who has played full month of test cricket and is in the rhythm. But when you carry gatorade which Bhuvi did and lack match practice for a month you can’t just come and get yorkers right everytime. It takes time. Bhuvi will get better. I think he did decent earlier. Deah bowling needs lot of match practice which he lacks. I think he will be ready for world cup. England are his conditons and he will do well there. ecords type bowling analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5 overall 2012-2019 96 95 768.4 61 3850 101 5/42 38.11 5.00 45.6 2 1 OpeningBatsman and Real McCoy 2 Link to comment
Nikola Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) Since start of Jan 2018 Bhuvneshwar Kumar has an Economy Rate of 8.17 between overs 41 and 50 -Worst among Indian bowlers. How have the other bowlers done? Kuldeep Yadav - 6.75 YS Chahal - 5.43 Khaleel Ahmed - 5.00 Jasprit Bumrah- 3.92 Edited January 12, 2019 by Nikola Tridibans_16, Stan AF, OpeningBatsman and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 If Bhuvi continues to be our first choice pacer in LOIs, we are doomed. Better to play any young pacer zen 1 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nikola said: Because of these guys we had trundlers in past till current era bowlers. How much more matches to improve? Already given 100 matches and he is still avg at it's best. Have some shame those hard working bowlers in domestic cricket don't even get match to prove their worth in international cricket. We had trundlers but Bhuvi isn’t one. He is genuine medium-fast. I am ready to rotate bowlers and keep Bhuvi out but would keep Bhuvi for world cup for English conditons and give him odd games. Heck if Aaron is the team or Mavi, I will even pick them ahead but I am going to keep Bhuvi in the squad. I rather drop extra spinner in the squad and take one extra fast bowler for world cup. Link to comment
Pandya_Power Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 But he brings a lot during the initial part of the innings - I remember him being quite good in the 2013 CT in Eng. Unless we have a reliable death bowler to aprtner Bumrah, I would persist with Bhuvi. Too much of an ask to give demand good death bowling from newbies like Khaleel or Siraj. Link to comment
Nikola Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, Cricketics said: We had trundlers but Bhuvi isn’t one. He is genuine medium-fast. I am ready to rotate bowlers and keep Bhuvi out but would keep Bhuvi for world cup for English conditons and give him odd games. Heck if Aaron is the teammor Mavi, I will even pick them ahead but I am going to keep kne place for Bhuvi in the squad. I rather drop extra spinner in the squad and take one extra fast bowler for world cup. Geniune medium fast bowling at 121kph right? Even shami after having so much workload in test is bowling in 138-140kph speed without getting injured. English Conditions? Kidding me? That will be flat tracks in hot summer. Wake up it's not that he will get test match conditions. He might get in one or two matches out of 10 matches if there is overcast conditions but other than that those conditions will be surely more tough than these Australian pitches. Pandya, Bhuvi & Jadeja/Chahal are pretty useless if batsman can read them and start smacking them. Bumrah & Kuldeep can have bad days too. zen 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cricketics said: We had trundlers but Bhuvi isn’t one. He is genuine medium-fast. I am ready to rotate bowlers and keep Bhuvi out but would keep Bhuvi for world cup for English conditons and give him odd games. Heck if Aaron is the team or Mavi, I will even pick them ahead but I am going to keep Bhuvi in the squad. I rather drop extra spinner in the squad and take one extra fast bowler for world cup. bhuvan won't get classic eng conditions and pitches for the most part. his record in eng odis is very ordinary. shami and bumrah should play all matches. 3rd pacer is a massive hole. zen 1 Link to comment
zen Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 Funny comment on cricinfo 49.6 2 Kumar to Maxwell, 2 runs, fuller and wider and Maxwell hits it towards deep extra cover, they sprints back for the second and make it easily before Bhuvneshwar receives the throw 49.5 4 Kumar to Maxwell, FOUR runs, fuller around off, Maxwell moves just towards the off side and hits it in the air, a wristy flick to beat the man at deep midwicket 49.4 1 Kumar to Stoinis, 1 run, wide outside off, looks to go aerial over extra cover, ends up slicing it towards deep backward point, lands just short of charging in Rohit 49.3 4 Kumar to Stoinis, FOUR runs, length outside off, looks to hoick it on the leg side, gets an outside edge and it goes between the keeper and the short third man Azad: "Will this be another 20 run final over from Bhuvi that we have come to expect?" 49.2 0 Kumar to Stoinis, no run, length outside off, slower one perhaps, Stoinis fails to reach there 49.1 6 Kumar to Stoinis, SIX runs, a juicy full toss on the stumps and put away over square leg boundary for a six 49.1 1w Kumar to Stoinis, 1 wide, slower one outside off, but way too wide, needs to be bowled again Link to comment
OpeningBatsman Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Easy for someone like Shami to bowl yorkers kn will who has played full month of test cricket and is in the rhythm. But when you carry gatorade which Bhuvi did and lack match practice for a month you can’t just come and get yorkers right everytime. It takes time. Bhuvi will get better. I think he did decent earlier. Deah bowling needs lot of match practice which he lacks. I think he will be ready for world cup. England are his conditons and he will do well there. Everytime we play an ODI series after a Test series, there would obviously be a gap. So are you saying we should allow bhuvi to get pasted every 3-4 matches at the beginning of a series so that he could "get his rhythm" back? Or are you suggesting we should play Bhuvi in tests so that he could get that Match Practice for ODIs Edited January 12, 2019 by OpeningBatsman zen, Nikola and Real McCoy 2 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, zen said: a thread on massive 15+ runs overs given Ind vs Aus ODI at Sydney 011118 Bhuvi 22 runs last over RECENT 2 4 1 4 . 6 1w "taken to the cleaners" - I hope these cleaners will clean out bhuvi and khaleel and all other cobwebs & non-contributing passengers from this team. Real McCoy and zen 2 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 minute ago, OpeningBatsman said: So everytime we play an ODI series afted a Test series, there would obviously be a gap. So are you saying we should allow bhuvi to get pasted every 3-4 matches at the beginning of a series so that he could "get his rhythm" back? No, players can get rusty, if sittinf om side. Some day your death bowling clicks some days they don’t. He migth bowler better with Bumrah as partner and stuff like this happens. Today was off day, rustiness like I mentioned. Earlier spell wasn’t bad though. This can happen to any bowler in today’s cricket. sandeep 1 Link to comment
Number Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I think it is clear we cant trust him in death overs but he is too valueable with the new ball. So our 3rd seamer should be someone who can ball in death with Bumrah. Cricketics 1 Link to comment
OpeningBatsman Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 He might do well in tye next match but then he will go missing for another 6-7 matches.. This has been the story of his career. Ny doing well i mean figures of 1-48 or 2-57 in 10 overs. That's the problem. Even his good days are not so good and his bad days are awful. Result- bowling avg of 38. Economy of 5. Link to comment
OpeningBatsman Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cricketics said: No, players can get rusty, if sittinf om side. Some day your death bowling clicks some days they don’t. He migth bowler better with Bumrah as partner and stuff like this happens. Today was off day, rustiness like I mentioned. Earlier spell wasn’t bad though. This can happen to any bowler in today’s cricket. I understand that. But he has been consistently poor through out 2018 just check his performances. We can't afford that especially when we are playing with only 2 frontier pacers with Hardik back... Link to comment
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