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On 1/13/2019 at 4:04 PM, Stradlater said:

Winning the girls' hearts, What is it some sorta 90s Bollywood film?

They wanna get laid bruh.

Oh yes, in a very direct way. It's either that or they had a dominating mother brainwashing them.

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6 hours ago, MechEng said:

Oh yes, in a very direct way. It's either that or they had a dominating mother brainwashing them.

Dominant Mother and a tail wagging Cuck/Sissy Father  or in some cases,  no father at all.  

 

Won't be surprised if a lot of these rabid ones are born out of illegitimate relationships and raised by Single Mothers. You could always notice them bashing the Indian  traditional Family Structure - there could be a strong personal reason behind it. 

 

 

 

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Feminists movement indeed indeed succeeded in making this world much safer for the women.

 

And may I allowed to also say that this is the thing which NO RELIGION was able to achieve. 

 

Nothing is perfect. There may be short comings in the feminist movement. There may be emotional stupid people present in this movement ... but still the negative side of the feminist movement is HARMLESS. 

 

As compared to the the feminist movement, the negative side of the religions was not harmless. Women suffered one sided and she suffered badly. 

 

I don't agree with this argument that woman should be kept to suffer and her equal rights should be usurped in order to maintain the traditions family (joint family) system. 

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Feminist movement, has only lead to the fall of family values.  Empowering women is not about women to be able to do so the same function as men, but to make man understand how to work collectively for the greater good. It has become more of the latter, about doing the same bad deeds as men are doing, instead of learning from his flaws and doing things better,

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20 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Feminist movement, has only lead to the fall of family values.  Empowering women is not about women to be able to do so the same function as men, but to make man understand how to work collectively for the greater good. It has become more of the latter, about doing the same bad deeds as men are doing, instead of learning from his flaws and doing things better,

Family values ?!?!?


Well duh - if you spread the idea that women don't HAVE TO be baby-making-machines and they can choose to have babies or not, then obviously, not 100% women are going to be baby-making-cleaning-lady-of-the-house. Just like if you give slaves the idea that slavery is optional and they can be entreprenuers too, then not everyone is gonna work the fields.... 

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7 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Family values ?!?!?


Well duh - if you spread the idea that women don't HAVE TO be baby-making-machines and they can choose to have babies or not, then obviously, not 100% women are going to be baby-making-cleaning-lady-of-the-house. Just like if you give slaves the idea that slavery is optional and they can be entreprenuers too, then not everyone is gonna work the fields.... 

So are you saying family values mostly center around trying to oppress and subjugate women?

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56 minutes ago, Stradlater said:

So are you saying family values mostly center around trying to oppress and subjugate women?

I am saying that 'erosion of family values' is mostly cited by conservatives as women less likely to get married and have kids or being more able to divorce their husbands because they are more financially independent. So yes, in practice, the 'erosion of family values' equates to 'women have more options today' argument, aka not as helpless and subjugated. 

 

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Feminism 101 - My Choice ... to have sex outside of marriage! But, if my choice is to take care of the family/kids for better QOL, then you are regressive, bowing to patriarchy!  But wearing a burkha is my choice, but Karwa chauth is so medieval concept. The liberal are so ill-liberal!

 

 

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14 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Feminism 101 - My Choice ... to have sex outside of marriage! But, if my choice is to take care of the family/kids for better QOL, then you are regressive, bowing to patriarchy!  But wearing a burkha is my choice, but Karwa chauth is so medieval concept. The liberal are so ill-liberal!

 

 

Can you please point out where in the video clip she says or implies the bolded part ?!?

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9 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

Family values ?!?!?


Well duh - if you spread the idea that women don't HAVE TO be baby-making-machines and they can choose to have babies or not, then obviously, not 100% women are going to be baby-making-cleaning-lady-of-the-house. Just like if you give slaves the idea that slavery is optional and they can be entreprenuers too, then not everyone is gonna work the fields.... 

So motherhood = slavery ?

If given choice nobody wants to be slave , by your logic no woman wants to be mother.

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3 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

So motherhood = slavery ?

If given choice nobody wants to be slave , by your logic no woman wants to be mother.

most of us are 9-5 slaves, bud. the only difference is, we can choose our masters, the original ones could not. 

I thought that was obvious when i used the slaves-entrepreneur contrast instead of slave-free men contrast ?

 

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2 hours ago, Singh bling said:

So motherhood = slavery ?

If given choice nobody wants to be slave , by your logic no woman wants to be mother.

In my view, motherhood is not a slavery. 

 

But taking away the "Right" from the woman to choose herself if she is ready to become mother right now, or later, or never is a slavery. A mother should be herself ready for being a mother, not that others compel her to be a mother. 

 

Unfortunately, in our society, these "basic" decisions still does not belong to the women, but their husbands, families or society make rules and choices for them. 

 

First of all our societies should recognise the basic rights of women and also of the children. 

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3 hours ago, beetle said:

Family values in general means status quo.

Jaisa hai ..waisa he rehne do.

Don't change ...because people don't like change unless it is for financial gain....

 

Utter crap as usual. Values and ideas take centuries to develop and they do change with the changing times. As per your logic if family values equated status quo then we wouldn't have seen no change in our values since the beginning of civilization which of course isn't the case .

Yours is a simplistic viewpoint often cited by dumb feminazis with no basis in facts.

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1 hour ago, Stradlater said:

Utter crap as usual. Values and ideas take centuries to develop and they do change with the changing times. As per your logic if family values equated status quo then we wouldn't have seen no change in our values since the beginning of civilization which of course isn't the case .

Yours is a simplistic viewpoint often cited by dumb feminazis with no basis in facts.

Oh the word...feminazis.

You won!!

My statement wasn't even about women....it was in general about both genders....but you see a comment by me and go...feminazi!!

@#$%^&*

 

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40 minutes ago, beetle said:

Oh the word...feminazis.

You won!!

My statement wasn't even about women....it was in general about both genders....but you see a comment by me and go...feminazi!!

@#$%^&*

 

Fine ignore my last comment then. How about responding to the first para without resorting to the gaalis? 

Then you wonder why I used the word feminazi lol.

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3 hours ago, Stradlater said:

Utter crap as usual. Values and ideas take centuries to develop and they do change with the changing times. As per your logic if family values equated status quo then we wouldn't have seen no change in our values since the beginning of civilization which of course isn't the case .

Yours is a simplistic viewpoint often cited by dumb feminazis with no basis in facts.

Not sure about feminazis but your comment earlier to me is the catch-call for every scared dude who cannot handle strong women who know what they want in life and who's life is more than just husband+kids+cleaning house.

 

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1 hour ago, Stradlater said:

Fine ignore my last comment then. How about responding to the first para without resorting to the gaalis? 

Then you wonder why I used the word feminazi lol.

I don't have to respond to any crap any one posts.

I was just defining ' family values' for what it means in todays time .

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11 hours ago, beetle said:

Family values in general means status quo.

Jaisa hai ..waisa he rehne do.

Don't change ...because people don't like change unless it is for financial gain....

 

Family values means family first . As long as people have these values people will have families

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On 1/17/2019 at 4:09 PM, beetle said:

Oh the word...feminazis.

You won!!

My statement wasn't even about women....it was in general about both genders....but you see a comment by me and go...feminazi!!

@#$%^&*

 

No offences but you do seem to be on athin line between feminist and feminazi. :p:

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3 hours ago, Pollack said:

No offences but you do seem to be on athin line between feminist and feminazi. :p:

 

depends on her cooking form :phehe:

 

day 1 - "wow @beetle ji .. you are the best cook in uttarkhand" 

bettle ji's mindvoice ( blushing :blush:) - "womens first priority is her family and anyway 90% of the indian women likes to cook.. screw feminists"

 

day 2 - "beetle .. your food is just ok today"

bettle ji's mindvoice ( mildly annoyed :anguished: ) - "jeez .. women is not just their for making sandwich.. feminists are right" 

 

day 3 - "beetle .. your food is worse than bhuvi's wicket taking ability in ODIs"

bettle ji in her real voice ( extremely annoyed :mad: ) - "you cook on odd days and i cook on evendays .. on odd days i will work for the empowerment of our fellow feminazis"  

 

:crutch:

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Is calling any woman in public space beautiful/pretty always sexist & misogynistic ? This is what was the conclusion on one article when Priyanka Gandhi was referred in that sense, meaning that she doesn't have any appeal besides of her looks and also has a "tainted" husband.

 

Ordinarily, it is unfair if a woman is just narrowed down to certain physical attributes, especially the achievers who have worked immensely hard for their success. In this case, if its majorly the cold hard truth that her family name and fair skin gets her the attention in our society, is it still sexist ? 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Clarke said:

Is calling any woman in public space beautiful/pretty always sexist & misogynistic ? This is what was the conclusion on one article when Priyanka Gandhi was referred in that sense, meaning that she doesn't have any appeal besides of her looks and also has a "tainted" husband.

 

Ordinarily, it is unfair if a woman is just narrowed down to certain physical attributes, especially the achievers who have worked immensely hard for their success. In this case, if its majorly the cold hard truth that her family name and fair skin gets her the attention in our society, is it still sexist ? 

 

 

Of course not!

But telling a colleague that she should be at the forefront of a pitch; "you are pretty and just your smile will convince the prospective client to do business with us" is very sexist.

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Of course not!
But telling a colleague that she should be at the forefront of a pitch; "you are pretty and just your smile will convince the prospective client to do business with us" is very sexist.
Sorta agree, but how is it different from saying " you are intelligent and speak well" .. is that sexist?

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5 hours ago, Yoda-esque said:

Sorta agree, but how is it different from saying " you are intelligent and speak well" .. is that sexist?

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Yea, at the core of it, physical attributes are a no-no while others are ok. 

 

11 hours ago, Mariyam said:

Of course not!

But telling a colleague that she should be at the forefront of a pitch; "you are pretty and just your smile will convince the prospective client to do business with us" is very sexist.

I see that as a weakness of the client who isn't looking at the pitch but focusing on the presenter. Plus its somewhat true as well. I just don't get the sexism in it when the weakness/bias of the voter or the customer is being used for political or commercial success. 

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7 hours ago, Clarke said:

Yea, at the core of it, physical attributes are a no-no while others are ok. 

 

I see that as a weakness of the client who isn't looking at the pitch but focusing on the presenter. Plus its somewhat true as well. I just don't get the sexism in it when the weakness/bias of the voter or the customer is being used for political or commercial success. 

In our company courses on sexual harassment , such examples are used to show how not to treat collegues, commenting on dress, appearance etc

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53 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

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In our company courses on sexual harassment , such examples are used to show how not to treat collegues, commenting on dress, appearance etc

Which brings me to the original question I posted here about context of a female's appearance.

 

Saying "Damn girl, You're so hot!" to someone not in the closest comfy circle is one avoidable thing.

 

Saying that an attractive individual is needed as a front face is just a known thing that is maybe not said aloud. Plenty of girls or guys get rejected for appearance in certain professions. Is it all about sexism in those cases ? 

 

Personally I feel there are nuances to every reference of a person's appearance and sexism/bias flag isn't applicable to each scenario.

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On 1/26/2019 at 8:26 PM, Stradlater said:

And what , bore her for next few hours blabbering about weird conspiracy theories related to Hindutva and RSS?

I think it should then depend upon the dishes made by Beetle ji. If they taste good and there is hope for more invitations, then Jai Feminism, Jai Moodi Sarkar :--D

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On 1/27/2019 at 5:28 AM, Yoda-esque said:

Sorta agree, but how is it different from saying " you are intelligent and speak well" .. is that sexist?

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Legalspeak on this is as follows:

The part in bold font is an integral part of getting work done or getting the point across in a meeting. That isn't sexist or suggestive behavior.

Suggesting someone use their smile/pretty face to help get a point across can be sexist and definitely is very unprofessional. 

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3 hours ago, Mariyam said:

Legalspeak on this is as follows:

The part in bold font is an integral part of getting work done or getting the point across in a meeting. That isn't sexist or suggestive behavior.

Suggesting someone use their smile/pretty face to help get a point across can be sexist and definitely is very unprofessional. 

 

airline industry must be sexist .. i am sure they have some basic standards for air hostess when comes to looks

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4 hours ago, velu said:

 

airline industry must be sexist .. i am sure they have some basic standards for air hostess when comes to looks

One of the most sexist.

But they are getting better.

A few of them are giving them the choice to wear trousers instead of tight fitting dresses.

Emphasis is shifting to fit and pleasant personality .

They are called cabin crew and very rarely airhostesses.

 

I wish they would do away with the rather garish makeup and give them the option of wearing no makeup.

 

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2 minutes ago, beetle said:

One of the most sexist.

But they are getting better.

A few of them are giving them the choice to wear trousers instead of tight fitting dresses.

Emphasis is shifting to fit and pleasant personality .

They are called cabin crew and very rarely airhostesses.

 

I wish they would do away with the rather garish makeup and give them the option of wearing no makeup.

 

 

i dont want to be served by some not so good looking women  :no:

also they dont usually employ male cabin crews :((

 

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6 minutes ago, velu said:

 

i dont want to be served by some not so good looking women  :no:

also they dont usually employ male cabin crews :((

 

:whack2: Cabin crew is there for making sure you have a safe flight .....not for you to ogle. Those women will put your life before their if there is an emergency....samhje !!!!

 

Think of them like your mommy....they will keep you safe  when the plane is in trouble.:whack3:

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