philcric Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Ishant's stats are very surprising. Around 1.5 wickets per match, SR of 32 !! Thought his wickets per match would be lower, SR much higher, and ER a bit lower. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, jf1gp_1 said: Ganguly was a part timer. Off the 100 wickets he took i bet a good 18-20 would have come in those toronto games. It tells you how Bhuvi's stats are like parttimer's. zen 1 Link to comment
Clarke Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Oh I'm sure Ganguly would fit right in opening and closing the bowling in this era where 500 came close to be achieved. There was a time someone created a troll thread on Agarkar vs Akram using selective stats. The difference was it was intentional trolling and now passes as cricketing logic. sandeep and diehardpacer 1 1 Link to comment
velu Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 today he is "niggle free" Link to comment
R!TTER Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Clarke said: Now if Bhuvi isn't at least economical like he hasn't been so in England ODIs or first ODI or many other matches, he doesn't deserve to be in the XI. That's one thing; but claiming he's the worst thing ever just shows your poor understanding of limited overs cricket. Even on bad days, he produces very good initial spells like CT final had 5-0-10-0 and this match had 5-0-12-1. Either he sorts out his death bowling or we find newer bowlers, but in no dimension is he so awful as you claim. Because at the end of the day, runs scored decides matches, not the wickets. Cricket is all about wickets, for bowlers, whether you like it or not! BK isn't even half decent against better opponents, stop defending his pathetic stats! Records type bowling analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5 overall 2012-2019 97 96 778.4 61 3895 105 5/42 37.09 5.00 44.4 3 1 Profile Career summary Grouping Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5 v Afghanistan 2014-2014 1 1 8.0 1 25 0 - - 3.12 - 0 0 v Australia 2013-2019 14 14 118.0 6 626 14 4/45 44.71 5.30 50.5 1 0 v Bangladesh 2014-2018 6 6 47.0 3 228 8 3/32 28.50 4.85 35.2 0 0 v England 2013-2018 14 14 107.0 11 535 10 3/29 53.50 5.00 64.2 0 0 v Hong Kong 2018-2018 1 1 9.0 0 50 0 - - 5.55 - 0 0 v New Zealand 2014-2017 8 8 74.0 1 432 9 3/45 48.00 5.83 49.3 0 0 v Pakistan 2012-2018 9 9 77.0 11 322 14 3/15 23.00 4.18 33.0 0 0 v South Africa 2013-2018 13 13 105.1 3 688 13 3/41 52.92 6.54 48.5 0 0 v Sri Lanka 2013-2017 12 12 101.3 11 435 16 5/42 27.18 4.28 38.0 1 1 v U.A.E. 2015-2015 1 1 5.0 0 19 1 1/19 19.00 3.80 30.0 0 0 v West Indies 2013-2018 15 14 101.0 9 455 15 3/29 30.33 4.50 40.4 0 0 v Zimbabwe 2015-2015 3 3 26.0 5 80 5 4/33 16.00 3.07 31.2 1 0 in Australia 2015-2019 7 7 53.5 0 303 8 4/45 37.87 5.62 40.3 1 0 in Bangladesh 2014-2015 6 6 47.2 3 236 5 2/37 47.20 4.98 56.8 0 0 in England 2013-2018 15 15 115.3 11 517 18 2/14 28.72 4.47 38.5 0 0 in India 2012-2018 39 39 334.2 27 1781 40 3/9 44.52 5.32 50.1 0 0 in New Zealand 2014-2014 5 5 44.0 1 239 4 1/38 59.75 5.43 66.0 0 0 in South Africa 2013-2018 6 6 42.0 2 269 2 1/19 134.50 6.40 126.0 0 0 in Sri Lanka 2017-2017 4 4 34.4 2 169 5 5/42 33.80 4.87 41.6 0 1 in U.A.E. 2018-2018 5 5 42.0 2 176 6 3/15 29.33 4.19 42.0 0 0 in West Indies 2013-2017 7 6 39.0 8 125 12 4/8 10.41 3.20 19.5 1 0 in Zimbabwe 2015-2015 3 3 26.0 5 80 5 4/33 16.00 3.07 31.2 1 0 He's beyond pathetic if you look at this list View overall figures [change view] Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2009 Qualifications matches played greater than or equal to 60 and four wickets in an inns greater than or equal to 4 Ordered by bowling average (ascending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 40 of 40 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5 MA Starc (AUS) 2010-2018 75 75 626.5 34 3109 145 6/28 21.44 4.95 25.9 9 5 Saeed Ajmal (PAK) 2009-2015 109 108 962.4 49 4043 180 5/24 22.46 4.19 32.0 6 2 Imran Tahir (SA) 2011-2018 91 89 783.3 34 3675 151 7/45 24.33 4.69 31.1 6 3 DW Steyn (SA) 2009-2018 101 101 869.4 61 4153 167 6/39 24.86 4.77 31.2 3 3 M Morkel (SA) 2009-2018 101 99 821.4 41 4082 164 5/21 24.89 4.96 30.0 6 2 LL Tsotsobe (SA) 2009-2013 61 60 494.0 44 2347 94 4/22 24.96 4.75 31.5 7 0 TA Boult (NZ) 2012-2019 71 71 640.2 43 3326 129 7/34 25.78 5.19 29.7 5 4 MG Johnson (AUS) 2009-2015 111 108 925.1 52 4513 174 6/31 25.93 4.87 31.9 7 1 SP Narine (WI) 2011-2016 65 65 590.0 35 2435 92 6/27 26.46 4.12 38.4 4 2 JM Anderson (ENG) 2009-2015 93 92 784.5 54 3844 142 5/23 27.07 4.89 33.1 4 2 BAW Mendis (SL) 2009-2015 69 67 556.5 21 2838 104 4/46 27.28 5.09 32.1 4 0 R Rampaul (WI) 2009-2015 62 60 487.2 20 2515 92 5/49 27.33 5.16 31.7 7 2 Junaid Khan (PAK) 2011-2018 71 71 554.1 32 2896 104 4/12 27.84 5.22 31.9 4 0 DJ Bravo (WI) 2009-2014 76 73 516.0 14 2861 101 6/43 28.32 5.54 30.6 4 1 Shakib Al Hasan (BDESH) 2009-2018 139 137 1196.0 64 5408 190 5/47 28.46 4.52 37.7 8 1 WD Parnell (SA) 2009-2017 65 61 485.1 20 2738 94 5/48 29.12 5.64 30.9 3 2 KAJ Roach (WI) 2009-2018 78 77 643.1 46 3234 111 6/27 29.13 5.02 34.7 3 3 ST Finn (ENG) 2011-2017 69 67 591.4 38 2996 102 5/33 29.37 5.06 34.8 4 2 SL Malinga (SL) 2009-2019 160 156 1291.3 64 7124 239 6/38 29.80 5.51 32.4 6 8 AG Cremer (ZIM) 2009-2018 96 95 780.0 28 3597 119 6/46 30.22 4.61 39.3 4 3 AU Rashid (ENG) 2009-2018 78 74 656.4 6 3620 119 5/27 30.42 5.51 33.1 7 1 CR Woakes (ENG) 2011-2018 80 77 628.0 32 3463 113 6/45 30.64 5.51 33.3 8 2 KJ O'Brien (IRE) 2009-2018 101 86 568.3 24 2978 97 4/13 30.70 5.23 35.1 5 0 I Sharma (INDIA) 2009-2016 60 59 463.0 25 2712 88 4/34 30.81 5.85 31.5 4 0 JP Faulkner (AUS) 2013-2017 69 67 535.1 12 2962 96 4/32 30.85 5.53 33.4 4 0 Abdur Razzak (BDESH) 2009-2014 72 71 622.4 34 2967 96 5/29 30.90 4.76 38.9 3 3 Umar Gul (PAK) 2009-2016 79 77 612.4 37 3291 106 6/42 31.04 5.37 34.6 3 1 NLTC Perera (SL) 2009-2019 148 139 875.4 25 5148 165 6/44 31.20 5.87 31.8 5 4 SCJ Broad (ENG) 2009-2016 79 79 672.2 30 3654 116 4/15 31.50 5.43 34.7 7 0 Rubel Hossain (BDESH) 2009-2018 95 93 705.4 25 3955 121 6/26 32.68 5.60 34.9 7 1 JO Holder (WI) 2013-2018 85 84 676.2 37 3702 112 5/27 33.05 5.47 36.2 4 2 UT Yadav (INDIA) 2010-2018 75 73 593.0 23 3565 106 4/31 33.63 6.01 33.5 4 0 Shahid Afridi (PAK) 2009-2015 130 128 1114.2 27 5152 153 7/12 33.67 4.62 43.6 2 7 TT Bresnan (ENG) 2009-2015 80 79 670.3 32 3610 105 5/48 34.38 5.38 38.3 3 1 RA Jadeja (INDIA) 2009-2019 146 142 1229.1 49 6002 171 5/36 35.09 4.88 43.1 7 1 KMDN Kulasekara (SL) 2009-2017 143 140 1076.3 73 5462 154 5/22 35.46 5.07 41.9 3 1 Wahab Riaz (PAK) 2010-2017 74 73 575.4 14 3301 92 5/46 35.88 5.73 37.5 4 1 GH Dockrell (IRE) 2010-2018 77 75 631.2 28 2907 81 4/24 35.88 4.60 46.7 4 0 TG Southee (NZ) 2009-2019 126 124 1055.2 67 5784 159 7/33 36.37 5.48 39.8 3 2 B Kumar (INDIA) 2012-2019 97 96 778.4 61 3895 105 5/42 37.09 5.00 44.4 3 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, velu said: today he is "niggle free" Magically he is niggle free today. Bowled with decent pace too? Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Even Ganguly would take wickets at the end of innings if given the ball. Nikola 1 Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Surprisingly I think Bhuvi is the better batsman in tougher conditions compared to Ganguly... especially in challenging away wickets Link to comment
Clarke Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Whoa, I also learnt that Zaheer Khan, the MVP bowler who was such a key contributor to WC win, was good with new ball and generally all right in death overs is inferior to Ishant! Coz avg SR avg SR avg SR destroy opposition break stumps damage helmets blah blah. The same Ishant who can't get a basic IPL contract while even Unadkat makes his millions. Someone educate the cricketing world about these realities that only few ICF experts seem to know. Link to comment
Khota Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Seriously. So much response to such a toxic thread. I doubt the judgement of anyone who compares Ganguly as a bowler to Bhuvi. Clarke 1 Link to comment
zen Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Clarke said: Oh I'm sure Ganguly would fit right in opening and closing the bowling in this era where 500 came close to be achieved. Buddy, folks are comparing Bhuvi to other specialist bowlers not Ganguly Credit to Ganguly for being a good part time bowler. But Bhuvi’s numbers should be closer to other specialist bowlers on the list not Ganguly’s (most folks have got that point) If you are in the process of making an effort to show Bhuvi’s a better bowler than Ganguly, you have already lost the plot /spoonfeeding Edited January 15, 2019 by zen Vilander and Stan AF 2 Link to comment
Clarke Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, zen said: Buddy, folks are comparing Bhuvi with other specialist bowlers not Ganguly Credit to Ganguly for being a good part time bowler. But Bhuvi’s numbers should be closer to other specialist bowlers on the list not Ganguly’s (most folks have got that point) If you are in the process of making an effort to show Bhuvi’s a better bowler than Ganguly, you have already lost the plot Ha! You found it convenient to create a thread on "Bhuvi vs Ganguly" as the TOPIC, highlight one or two numbers for just Ganguly & Bhuvi and then want to divert away when the fallacy of narrow comparisons is pointed out. Sounds pretty convenient Link to comment
zen Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Clarke said: Ha! You found it convenient to create a thread on "Bhuvi vs Ganguly" as the TOPIC, highlight one or two numbers for just Ganguly & Bhuvi and then want to divert away when the fallacy of narrow comparisons is pointed out. Sounds pretty convenient Whatever floats your boat. I can’t teach common sense .... you are free to show that he is better than Ganguly as it only highlights where his numbers stand vs competition’s Link to comment
Clarke Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, zen said: Whatever floats your boat. I can’t teach common sense .... you are free to show that he is better than Ganguly as it only highlights where his numbers stand vs competition’s Nice of you to admit that :) Link to comment
zen Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Clarke said: Nice of you to admit that :) Now can we see some more posts from you on how Bhuvi is better than Ganguly? Edited January 15, 2019 by zen Link to comment
Clarke Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, zen said: Now can we see some more posts on how Bhuvi is better than Ganguly? Its even nicer of you to ask for common sense lessons Link to comment
zen Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Clarke said: Its even nicer of you to ask for common sense lessons Go ahead be my guest, look forward to your comedy Link to comment
zen Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Niggles could return soon speedheat and Stan AF 2 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Sandeep99 said: Surprisingly I think Bhuvi is the better batsman in tougher conditions compared to Ganguly... especially in challenging away wickets Kuch bhi...... raki05 and zen 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 He has to do it consistently going forward. His career stats are awful. I didn't even realize it was this bad. zen 1 Link to comment
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